Autometer Aftermarket Gauges and idiot overheating light turns on

[offroadchevy806]

Hi, this is my first post, lets see how this turns out.

Ok, i have a 98 Valk standard i want to buy some autometer gauges, where does the sending unit for the water temp gauge go? (and i would like to keep the overheating light working)

Also my bike's overheating light turns on, so i stared with replacing the thermastat and just for the hell of it a new radiator cap. I put new fluid in it let it idle for about 15 to 20 mins. The hot light turns on, (the fan does not kick on), the coolant shots though the overflow valve and is steaming hot then i shut the bike down and just turn the key to the on positon and the fan will kick on.  The fan is working but not when it is suppose to, is that just a fan swith problem?   If it is the fan switch could someone suggest a generic version dont feel like paying $50 for a switch when i can get on from like autozone for $25  

[Hoser]

Remove the wire from the fan sensor,  (lower left side on the radiator) with the key on and not running and ground it to the frame.  If the fan does not come on the trouble is somewhere in the fan or fan wiring or the sensor.  Hoser

[offroadchevy806]

thanks for replying,

yeah i grounded the fan to the frame and it turns on, so is my issue the fan swith.

Do you know if i can remove the idiot light sensor and replace it with an aftermarket sending unit and still be able to have my overheating light?

[98valk]

thanks for replying,

yeah i grounded the fan to the frame and it turns on, so is my issue the fan swith.

Do you know if i can remove the idiot light sensor and replace it with an aftermarket sending unit and still be able to have my overheating light?

search is your friend, many post yrs ago on the subject and in the archives.  idiot light and a gauge use two different type sensors, so no.  sensor for a gauge requires the sensor hole to be tapped. existing is metric auto meters are SAE. they sell SAE/metric adapters which I have left over and will sell to u if u want them, I just re-tapped the existing hole. search for details.

[Earl in Pensacola]

My temperture gauge sensor is in the middle of the upper radiator hose.  Had to cut the hose in halve, in the middle, insert the sensor unit, then clamp the hose ends to the "made for this purpose" sensor unit and then of course the other wire went to a power sourse.  It's a completely separate from the OEM "hot" warning light system.  The brand name is "AUTO-METER".  I also bought a volt meter from them and it's fused wired directly to the battery and is also a separte system from the OEM light.  Both have been on the bike for about 10 years and have worked flawlessly.

[offroadchevy806]

thanks for replying,

yeah i grounded the fan to the frame and it turns on, so is my issue the fan swith.

Do you know if i can remove the idiot light sensor and replace it with an aftermarket sending unit and still be able to have my overheating light?

search is your friend, many post yrs ago on the subject and in the archives.  idiot light and a gauge use two different type sensors, so no.  sensor for a gauge requires the sensor hole to be tapped. existing is metric auto meters are SAE. they sell SAE/metric adapters which I have left over and will sell to u if u want them, I just re-tapped the existing hole. search for details.

 yeah, how much would u want for the adapters?

[offroadchevy806]

My temperture gauge sensor is in the middle of the upper radiator hose.  Had to cut the hose in halve, in the middle, insert the sensor unit, then clamp the hose ends to the "made for this purpose" sensor unit and then of course the other wire went to a power sourse.  It's a completely separate from the OEM "hot" warning light system.  The brand name is "AUTO-METER".  I also bought a volt meter from them and it's fused wired directly to the battery and is also a separte system from the OEM light.  Both have been on the bike for about 10 years and have worked flawlessly.

do you usually get a good reading right there in the hose? how hot does it show you temp at when u ride?

[98valk]

thanks for replying,

yeah i grounded the fan to the frame and it turns on, so is my issue the fan swith.

Do you know if i can remove the idiot light sensor and replace it with an aftermarket sending unit and still be able to have my overheating light?

search is your friend, many post yrs ago on the subject and in the archives.  idiot light and a gauge use two different type sensors, so no.  sensor for a gauge requires the sensor hole to be tapped. existing is metric auto meters are SAE. they sell SAE/metric adapters which I have left over and will sell to u if u want them, I just re-tapped the existing hole. search for details.

 yeah, how much would u want for the adapters?

PM sent

[Earl in Pensacola]

CA--no PM rec'd--In answer to the temp. question-- It depends on several things, like out-side temp and speed.  However, with the exception of heavy traffic or parade mode the temp averages 180 to 185.  When the ambient temp. is cold the temp. the gauge will swing about 15 to 20 degrees--like 185, then drop to about 165 and back up again as the thermostat opens.  In heavy traffic , the temp will go up to about 215, then fan comes on and it either "holds" the temp there or drops it to below the 200 degree mark and the fan goes off.  After "getting back on the road" the temp. will drop on back down to the 180 to 185 mark.   

[Gryphon Rider]

I installed an Autometer temperature gauge in 2002.  I used the sender that came with the gauge.  I removed the thermostat housing from the bike.  The housing has an existing circular boss on it (shown circled) that can be drilled and tapped 1/8-NPT to accept the sender.  The picture is from Jeff K's site.  The green thing (not the circle) is the OEM temp sender for the ICU.  The temp sender for the indicator light is on the other side:

[offroadchevy806]

I installed an Autometer temperature gauge in 2002.  I used the sender that came with the gauge.  I removed the thermostat housing from the bike.  The housing has an existing circular boss on it (shown circled) that can be drilled and tapped 1/8-NPT to accept the sender.  The picture is from Jeff K's site.  The green thing (not the circle) is the OEM temp light sender:

well if that is the oem temp light sender what is the thing screwed in in the over side of the housing?

But, i think i am going to do what u did, it will give me a true reading of what the motor temp is doing.

Could you post the link for jeff k's site?
 

[Bone]

Here is the link you ask about; 

http://www.jkozloski.com/generic_parts.htm

Have you checked out Shoptalk ?

http://www.valkyrieriders.com/shoptalk/

[Gryphon Rider]

well if that is the oem temp light sender what is the thing screwed in in the over side of the housing?

But, i think i am going to do what u did, it will give me a true reading of what the motor temp is doing.

Could you post the link for jeff k's site?
 

I was wrong, trusting my memory.  The green item is the temp sender for the ICU.  The sender on the other side (not shown) is for the indicator light.  I've edited my reply.

[offroadchevy806]

well if that is the oem temp light sender what is the thing screwed in in the over side of the housing?

But, i think i am going to do what u did, it will give me a true reading of what the motor temp is doing.

Could you post the link for jeff k's site?
 

I was wrong, trusting my memory.  The green item is the temp sender for the ICU.  The sender on the other side (not shown) is for the indicator light.  I've edited my reply.

 the indicator is for the light, the fan switch is well of course to turn the fan on. what does the green temp sender for the icu for?

[RP#62]

well if that is the oem temp light sender what is the thing screwed in in the over side of the housing?

But, i think i am going to do what u did, it will give me a true reading of what the motor temp is doing.

Could you post the link for jeff k's site?
 

I was wrong, trusting my memory.  The green item is the temp sender for the ICU.  The sender on the other side (not shown) is for the indicator light.  I've edited my reply.

 the indicator is for the light, the fan switch is well of course to turn the fan on. what does the green temp sender for the icu for?

It tells the ICM whether the engine is cold so it knows to apply more advance.
-RP

[offroadchevy806]

Well i bought some Autometer Ultra-lite short sweep i am going to drill and tap the thermo. housing.

oil gauge http://www.autometer.com/cat_gaugedetail.aspx?gid=3099&sid=11

water temp. http://www.autometer.com/cat_gaugedetail.aspx?gid=3113&sid=11