Strong Eagles Sanctuary

[BigAl]

Singapore, also known as the Republic of Singapore, is located in Southeast Asia. It is an island state at the southern tip of the Malaysia Peninsula.

It is one of the few remaining city-states in the world and the smallest country in Southeast Asia.
It is a country of approximately 4 million people, governed by a party named PAP (People's Action Party) which took over the Singapore government in 1965.
History
Singapore was known as Temasek, which was then governed by Malaysia. Sir Stamford Raffles then got the governance of Singapore from the rightful Malaysian Sultan Hussein, and developed Singapore into an important port in the trade between China and India.
During World War 2, Singapore fell to the Japanese for two and a half years. It was then known as Syonan-to .
After WW2, Singapore attempted to break free from British colonization, as many were unhappy with the British for being unable to protect Singapore. Singapore first achieved self internal governence and then the British gave up the external governence in terms of army etc later on.
Singapore then went on to become a state of Malaysia, the new name of the former Malaya.
Singapore achieved independence in 1965, after it broke out of Malaysia.
Also, Twilight hottie Jackson Rathbone, was born there!
Singapore is located in South-East Asia, south of West Malaysia, south of Java of Indonesia and east of Sumatra of Indonesia.

Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Where_is_Singapore#ixzz1jr21CVhQ

[junior]

yep sounds just like a gated communitity to me

[bigguy]

.......Also, Twilight hottie Jackson Rathbone, was born there! .......

   Uh BigAl. Something you want to tell us?  

[98valk]

Singapore is a destination country for women and girls trafficked for the purpose of commercial sexual exploitation. Some women from Thailand and the Philippines who travel to Singapore voluntarily for prostitution or work are subsequently deceived or coerced into sexual servitude. Some foreign domestic workers are subject to conditions that may be indicative of labor trafficking, including physical or sexual abuse, confiscation of travel documents, confinement, inadequate food, rest, or accommodation, deceptions about wages or conditions of work, and improper withholding of pay. - U.S. State Dept Trafficking in Persons Report, June, 2009 
http://gvnet.com/humantrafficking/Singapore.htm


Mankind Project or Dancing Naked With Other Men While Beating Cooked Chickens
http://lgattruth.wordpress.com/2007/10/06/mankind-project-or-dancing-naked-with-other-men-while-beating-cooked-chickens/


is this SE?

http://www.herberts.org/wayne/   rides a valkyrie, 

http://sg.linkedin.com/in/wherbert   Interests:Mankind Project International and the New Warrior Training Adventure

[BigAl]

Just getting the Geography right.

Know where a person is coming from if you know where they are from.

[98valk]

Just getting the Geography right.

Know where a person is coming from if you know where they are from.

according to his website born in Canada with an english father (british colony), sounds like obummer. LOL

who follows the works of Carl Jung who talked against God because his father did, but didn't know why.
Jung instead tuned to the paranormal instead of God
good book to read
Faith of the Fatherless: The Psychology of Atheism

[Willow]

Just a few things you might want to know rather than simply speculating.

Strong Eagle came to the United States of America and made the conscious choice to become an American citizen.  He worked jobs at varying levels of labor and completed his schooling in his adult years (late adult by collegiate standards).  He put that education to use forming his own consulting company and is in Singapore pursuing the success where that market is ripe.

He's not an atheist.

Don't assume that just because you dislike someone's politics or his world view that he is everything you disrespect.     

[..]

I was born in Her Majesty's Royal Air Force Hospital, Changi, Singapore in 1953.

[..]

Just a few things you might want to know rather than simply speculating.

Strong Eagle came to the United States of America and made the conscious choice to become an American citizen.  He worked jobs at varying levels of labor and completed his schooling in his adult years (late adult by collegiate standards).  He put that education to use forming his own consulting company and is in Singapore pursuing the success where that market is ripe.

He's not an atheist.

Don't assume that just because you dislike someone's politics or his world view that he is everything you disrespect.     

http://www.herberts.org/wayne/wayne2.htm

[Black Pearl's Captain]

Are some of our righteous members on a witch hunt? Or are you just trying to ridicule other board members for no apparent reason?

Pretty low.

I think there are even laws nowdays, something about cyberbullying.

Raymond

[x]

Are some of our righteous members on a witch hunt? Or are you just trying to ridicule other board members for no apparent reason?

Pretty low.

I think there are even laws nowdays, something about cyberbullying.

Raymond

They are making an infantile attempt at character assassination.  Performed by those who cannot otherwise formulate a logical and consistent framework to support their world view.

[donaldcc]

Are some of our righteous members on a witch hunt? Or are you just trying to ridicule other board members for no apparent reason?

Pretty low.

I think there are even laws nowdays, something about cyberbullying.

Raymond

  don't think there are any laws being broken, but sure seems like a bunch of "holier than thou", hostile posts.  Get a life.  You guys got nothing more important to do than try to vent anger?? Disgusting!

I would like to see a fine tooth comb dragged through your "perfect" lives and see what sort of dandruff shows up.

  Don't really know much about SE or his views, but i'm disappointed that members of this forum are so negative.

  

[Robdawg13]

I joined this forum to learn more about the Honda Valkyrie motorcycle I purchased.  While I am grateful for the knowledge I gained, this is the type of post that keeps me from being a more active member here.  I was a member of another forum centered around my last bike and while I am sure there is an equally diverse membership there, it has developed into a great community where I have seen members go out of their way to help each other - and not just with motorcycle problems.  In several years of active membership there I never saw a personal attack from one member on another.  On the other hand, this is the second post in as many days I have seen which has become nothing more than an attack on another member for no reason other than that someone disagrees with his opinions.  Again I am grateful for the knowledge I have gained here, but am dissappointed that the moderators continue to allow this to go on.  At the very least they could start a politics section where opinionated A**h*l*s could go and leave the rest of us to talk about motorcycles (and members of the oppposite sex!)

[Karen]

Hey, Robdawg, just what choo got in mind??? Huh?

[RoadKill]

If the member being singled out and personally attacked has what it takes to accept the criticism (and spout dumb ass banter in retaliation) why would a 3rd party be afraid of participation ? SKEERED ? ?     Stick around and you will find that this group has all the flaws that come with being human.....and at the same time they are the finest people (as a whole) you could ever know. 

[Thespian]

I joined this forum to learn more about the Honda Valkyrie motorcycle I purchased.  While I am grateful for the knowledge I gained, this is the type of post that keeps me from being a more active member here.  I was a member of another forum centered around my last bike and while I am sure there is an equally diverse membership there, it has developed into a great community where I have seen members go out of their way to help each other - and not just with motorcycle problems.  In several years of active membership there I never saw a personal attack from one member on another.  On the other hand, this is the second post in as many days I have seen which has become nothing more than an attack on another member for no reason other than that someone disagrees with his opinions.  Again I am grateful for the knowledge I have gained here, but am dissappointed that the moderators continue to allow this to go on.  At the very least they could start a politics section where opinionated A**h*l*s could go and leave the rest of us to talk about motorcycles (and members of the oppposite sex!)

 +1 From another newb.

[Thespian]

If the member being singled out and personally attacked has what it takes to accept the criticism (and spout dumb ass banter in retaliation) why would a 3rd party be afraid of participation ? SKEERED ? ?    Stick around and you will find that this group has all the flaws that come with being human.....and at the same time they are the finest people (as a whole) you could ever know.  

  ???  
 Ma said "don't say nuthin ifin ya can't say sumthin nice".

[RoadKill]

If the member being singled out and personally attacked has what it takes to accept the criticism (and spout dumb ass banter in retaliation) why would a 3rd party be afraid of participation ? SKEERED ? ?    Stick around and you will find that this group has all the flaws that come with being human.....and at the same time they are the finest people (as a whole) you could ever know.  

  ???  
 Ma said "don't say nuthin ifin ya can't say sumthin nice".

You are still here !              Even Thespian knows this group is AWESOME !

[Clark]

GUYS...I WAS JUS KIDDN

[ricoman]

I rarely if ever) like anything SE has had to say. That is why I do not read his posts anymore (and a couple others too).
However, this is over the top. It serves no useful purpose, save to give him more attention.
As others have said, shouldn't the mods delete these bashing posts?
This is a nadir for the forum.

[DIGGER]

I rarely if ever) like anything SE has had to say. That is why I do not read his posts anymore (and a couple others too).
However, this is over the top. It serves no useful purpose, save to give him more attention.
As others have said, shouldn't the mods delete these bashing posts?
This is a nadir for the forum.

To understand SE you have to understand that he is one of those people who gets an ego boost by putting others down.   In his world if you have a different view than him you are automatically an idiot.   I don't think the guy even has a Valk does he?????

[Robert]

I dont think this post is derogatory since all the info or at least a good portion of it was posted by SE himself, that is unless you consider this mans work to be derogatory. But with that said his views and posts have attacked quite a few members, this can be found out by just looking at his posts. More than once he has incited people to want to take other measure besides just in writing and causing him to leave the board for a short bit at least in writing. I am not really sure what the intent of the post is except to have people understand a ideological standpoint that SE is coming from which is not a bad idea. We think of SE also as a US citizen and below you will see a excerpt taken from his post that said pretty much he did become a citizen but due to changes in immigration law he maintains not dual but triple citizenship. Which leads me to question where is his loyalty. Many of his views are opposed to mine and quite a few on the board and from what I have seen and read of SE he is a very intelligent and learned person. So the only question I have is with all this learning why he attacks people? In 42 Toko Rose sounded pretty good too till you started to listen and discovered the message that was being broadcast. I wouldn't shoot the messenger and like I said I dont see character assassination going on here just the posting of a persons life that he himself has posted as wanting people to know.



I was born in Vancouver, Canada, but have lived in the United States since 1965.  I became a United States citizen in 1979.  Through various changes in U.S. immigration law, plus the fact that I was born in Canada and my father was born in England, it has become possible for me to hold three citizenships and passports:  United States, United Kingdom, and Canada.  I have the right to live and work in the U.K. (and most of the EU as well) without the need for a work permit or immigration visa.

[junior]

Are some of our righteous members on a witch hunt? Or are you just trying to ridicule other board members for no apparent reason?

Pretty low.

I think there are even laws nowdays, something about cyberbullying.

Raymond

They are making an infantile attempt at character assassination.  Performed by those who cannot otherwise formulate a logical and consistent framework to support their world view.

there are differant levels of cyberbullying there Wayne so be carful of the coals you stir up

[junior]

remember i am an uneducated united states citizen......... that rates right up there with the poor black orfan child.

 so becarful of them big words i might get offended

[98valk]

Just a few things you might want to know rather than simply speculating.


He's not an atheist.

he has posted like an atheist/agnostic many many times. He has put down people who believe in God many, many times.  Knowing that his belief system comes from Carl Jung who believed in the paranormal near the end of his life is important. Jung’s theory of self-actualization (basis of mankind project) may be impossible to validate, because it was basically what he thought. This puts man at the center of ones life rather than having God/Jesus at the center of ones life. Man is fallible, but God/Jesus are infallible.
I post this not to put SE down but to enlighten him that he cannot do it with his own strength for eventually he will fail. It is only with the power of God that he can succeed in life.

[Jess Tolbirt]

just so ya'll know, when i posted about the fire, SE was the second one to help out,, and get this Anvil was the first.. and if everyone else reads this, James and Sasha is gonna be ok thanks to the many members that helped...

[x]

Are some of our righteous members on a witch hunt? Or are you just trying to ridicule other board members for no apparent reason?

Pretty low.

I think there are even laws nowdays, something about cyberbullying.

Raymond

They are making an infantile attempt at character assassination.  Performed by those who cannot otherwise formulate a logical and consistent framework to support their world view.

there are differant levels of cyberbullying there Wayne so be carful of the coals you stir up

The big difference junior, which you apparently fail to grasp, is that I characterize your behavior (as infantile), whereas you simply make personal, unsubstantiated attacks with nonsensical statements like, "he was picked on in school as a child with a siver spoon in his mouth. and all that education was free with all them scolorships..........so it basicly boils downt to he has had the world handed to him on a silver plater and hasnt had to work for a dam thing". 
 
So, "junior", I don't think that you are cyberbullying, I judge you to be marginally competent in your thought processes, based upon the drivel you have posted.

[x]

he has posted like an atheist/agnostic many many times. He has put down people who believe in God many, many times.  

Where?  Show me a couple of posts, a couple of examples.

Knowing that his belief system comes from Carl Jung who believed in the paranormal near the end of his life is important. Jung’s theory of self-actualization (basis of mankind project) may be impossible to validate, because it was basically what he thought. This puts man at the center of ones life rather than having God/Jesus at the center of ones life. Man is fallible, but God/Jesus are infallible.

You obviously don't know crap about Carl Jung, who was convinced that there was a spiritual element to mankind.  He just didn't believe it manifested itself as a graven image in the form of a carved Jesus hanging from a cross.  Perhaps you are confusing Jung with Sigmund Freud, who had many off the wall ideas.  I'd bet money you've never read any of the original Jung... it is a difficult read.

I post this not to put SE down but to enlighten him that he cannot do it with his own strength for eventually he will fail. It is only with the power of God that he can succeed in life.

Ya, well... you enjoy your God and your spiritual practice and I will enjoy mine.  My beliefs don't compel me to tell others their religious or spiritual beliefs are wrong.  Let's go back to your first point... show me the people I have "put down" because they "believe in God".  Mindless fabrications, mate... but then again, you've already demonstrated a serious propensity for this kind of publication.

[x]

remember i am an uneducated united states citizen......... that rates right up there with the poor black orfan child.

 so becarful of them big words i might get offended

Can't disagree with anything you said... except, please don't compare yourself to black orphan kids... a complete smear

[bscrive]

Just a few things you might want to know rather than simply speculating.


He's not an atheist.

he has posted like an atheist/agnostic many many times. He has put down people who believe in God many, many times.  Knowing that his belief system comes from Carl Jung who believed in the paranormal near the end of his life is important. Jung’s theory of self-actualization (basis of mankind project) may be impossible to validate, because it was basically what he thought. This puts man at the center of ones life rather than having God/Jesus at the center of ones life. Man is fallible, but God/Jesus are infallible.
I post this not to put SE down but to enlighten him that he cannot do it with his own strength for eventually he will fail. It is only with the power of God that he can succeed in life.

What the heck does being an atheist has to do with not being a good person.  I don't believe in god or jesus, so you are saying that I and all atheists are bad because we don't believe in a fallacy.  I don't believe in santa as well, I must be really evil.

[czuch]

I went to Singapore in the Navy. As a WWII history buff It was fasanating (?) to see the places I had read so much about. People were helpful and the food was different, inna a good way. I'd live there if the biz cliimate suited me too. I do other things and have other interests.
I'm gonna go look at Hot Rods.

[junior]

and no i aint comparing Wayne to Hitler, I am just saying that they both have random acts of kindness

[WamegoRob]

Godwin's Law proven in 15.5 hours... not bad.

[Clark]

POPCORN...PEANUTS...COLD BEER HERE

[98valk]

Godwin's Law proven in 15.5 hours... not bad.

just like the Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon

[solo1]

Godwin's Law proven in 15.5 hours... not bad.

 

[RainMaker]

Without a doubt, one of the poorest excuses for a topic on this board.

[John Schmidt]

I would like to see this thread removed, not just locked. The turn it has taken is absolutely disgusting and has no relevance to the original post. Frankly, Al's first post I found interesting re. a brief history of Singapore. Sad that from there it went downhill in a hurry. My question is....WHY? It served no purpose whatsoever.

[RainMaker]

I would like to see this thread removed, not just locked. The turn it has taken is absolutely disgusting and has no relevance to the original post. Frankly, Al's first post I found interesting re. a brief history of Singapore. Sad that from there it went downhill in a hurry. My question is....WHY? It served no purpose whatsoever.

+100

[Willow]

I would like to see this thread removed, not just locked. The turn it has taken is absolutely disgusting and has no relevance to the original post. Frankly, Al's first post I found interesting re. a brief history of Singapore. Sad that from there it went downhill in a hurry. My question is....WHY? It served no purpose whatsoever. 

John,  I'm with you 100%! 

PMS has set in this winter with a vengeance!

There is a link on every post titled "Report to Moderator" that enables each of us to report a post or thread in need of removal.

I'm actually very lenient in thread removal.  It doesn't take a lot of complaints before I pull the plug.

I've received no reports on this thread and yet I've got people posting for the public wondering why it hasn't been removed.