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anybody have the chrome flake off the heads around the bolts?
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« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2012, 08:17:16 PM » |
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water sets in the wells and it will peel right off , i replace my timing cover a couple of months ago when it started coming off in sheets.
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« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2012, 09:03:06 PM » |
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so i guess my options are, rechrome or powdercoat or let it look like crap. ???
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« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2012, 09:10:49 PM » |
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Having a similiar problem with my Kuryakyn Pegs, Highway pegs are only about 4 years old or so but the other 2 sets (Driver, passenger) came with the bike when I got it about 6.5 years ago and all of thm are completley F'd up. They all look like they have ben sandblasted then left out in salt air.
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« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2012, 09:21:56 PM » |
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Having a similiar problem with my Kuryakyn Pegs, Highway pegs are only about 4 years old or so but the other 2 sets (Driver, passenger) came with the bike when I got it about 6.5 years ago and all of thm are completley F'd up. They all look like they have ben sandblasted then left out in salt air.
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« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2012, 09:28:05 PM » |
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contact pinwall cycle. lots of wrecked bikes that live inside so chrome is nice.
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« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2012, 02:31:27 AM » |
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Having a similiar problem with my Kuryakyn Pegs, Highway pegs are only about 4 years old or so but the other 2 sets (Driver, passenger) came with the bike when I got it about 6.5 years ago and all of thm are completley F'd up. They all look like they have ben sandblasted then left out in salt air.
Same here. Kuryakyn, (and others) deserve a class action for supplying crap chrome Yep all of mine look about like that but maybe even worse.    This is about the best picture of that mess, not something I like to share giving all the other beauty of My FatLady. |
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« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2012, 06:50:33 PM » |
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Kuryakyn chrome is the only chrome on my bike that is peeling off like a bad onion.
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« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2012, 07:59:18 AM » |
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There are some on this forum that would consider that talk heretical.
Suggesting that aftermarket bling is inferior to genuine Honda really gathers the catcalls.
I think it's an ego related reaction myself.
After eleven years on the road the visible rust on my Valkyrie is negligible.
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« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2012, 08:36:52 AM » |
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I've been using Kury parts for many years (and miles), and never had a piece look like some of the flaking parts pics posted. Have any of you guys taken good close shots and sent an email with attached pics to Kury with a basic description, and estimated purchase date, and asking for relief? This might take all of a half hour. They might do nothing, but they might offer replacements.
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« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2012, 03:21:21 PM » |
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sugarbear, we have the same bike & your scar'in me. I just ran out in the garage and inspected my chrome. No problems yet. I take it you mean the valve cover bolts? How many times have you had them off?
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« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2012, 03:50:12 PM » |
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I've never seen a set of highway pegs (on bikes that get ridden hard and often and our Valks tend to qualify) that did NOT pit and flake. Because of the proximity to the road surface and all of the crap that flies off of it I expect it to happen to certain parts.
That said, the Kury grips I have are mildly flaking and they've never been installed on the bike but I have a friend with Iso grips that have been on his Valk since new and they look terrific. From what I've seen their quality has slipped considerably in recent years.
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« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2012, 04:59:03 PM » |
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All my chrome is good except for the Cobra boards.
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« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2012, 06:00:44 PM » |
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I have kury grips two years old no chrome left in some spots where my hand contact the grips. And they turn my hands black too. My pegs have chrome that is bubbled up. The bezels arround all four turn signal lens are flaking really bad,.
This bike is ridden daily and in all kinds on weather but kept in a garage and cleaned often.
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« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2012, 05:10:13 AM » |
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The subject of chrome peeling is a goodie, had the rear brake cover blister an the tail light chrome do the same.
I came across an article on Google about certain cleaners lifting Chrome plating, which seems to co-incide with my problem.
Possibly not the makers fault but what we use to keep our girls sparkling.
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« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2012, 06:23:17 AM » |
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No problem with any of the factory Honda chrome on any of our bikes, but some of the aftermarket parts is another story. Kury Iso grips have held up fairly well considering the sweaty hand & miles they see. Cobra boards & Kury pegs not so good. I was at BikeWeek a few years ago & mentioned the pegs flaking after only a year or so to the Kury rep at their trailer. He handed me a pass & told me to ride it in for an inspection. He took one look at them & handed me a new set. Said I'd hafta wait if I wanted them to install them or I could just take 'em home & do it myself. Mighty nice of him! Well about a year later the new ones are flaking too. Oh well. BTW, the OEM chrome on Hondas seems to hold up very well. The Triumph R3 I had did not have chrome as nice as the much older Valkyrie. Most of the chrome fasteners showed rust after just 2 years. I hope they got that fixed. |
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« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2012, 07:17:31 AM » |
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Im thinking it is from the climate you live in? I have a 98 standard and 99 interstate and all the chrome is good except the bottom corners of the pegs from scraping. When you wash your bikes do you dry and wax every thing? My kuryakyn iso grips arent flaking, they just turn my fingers black when I wear my fingerless gloves.  |
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« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2012, 09:19:05 AM » |
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All of my factory chrome is in good shape, but, the aftermarket chrome has all suffered the effects of time and weather. Why can't aftermarket manufacturers put chrome on that will stay? Cheap processes? Hoping for replacement sales? Just want as much of your money as they can get for the least outlay? One of the reasons I haven't popped for more bling than I have  |
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« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2012, 09:28:53 AM » |
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From: http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,36297.0.htmlMost aftermarket grips turn to crap after a time. Mostly from sun, rain and sweat. Stock grips on the other hand are a perfect fit, no additional work required. ...................... Hard to duplicate Honda quality with the limited budgets of aftermarket suppliers and manufacturers. *** |
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« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2012, 01:48:24 PM » |
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Not to beat around the bush here, my view is that aftermarket chrome is, by and large, produced at the cheapest possible cost by cutting corners in the complex process necessary to make long lasting plating.
A huge mark up is then applied, so that anyone who actually goes back to the supplier and complains can be given a replacement with no pain, and the whole money making machine can roll on.
Look at those Kuryakyn footpegs, for example, nothing at all between that wafer thin shiny coating and the cheap alloy base material used to make the peg itself.
I replace anything I possibly can with stainless steel.
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« Reply #20 on: January 21, 2012, 03:01:24 PM » |
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From: http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,36297.0.htmlMost aftermarket grips turn to crap after a time. Mostly from sun, rain and sweat. Stock grips on the other hand are a perfect fit, no additional work required. ...................... Hard to duplicate Honda quality with the limited budgets of aftermarket suppliers and manufacturers. *** It must get messy, always painting with such a broad brush. |
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« Reply #21 on: January 26, 2012, 09:10:00 AM » |
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Seems to be a common thread here.
All of the Honda Chrome on my 99IS is in good shape.
My Cobra floorboards look like crap (especially the passenger boards). My Kuryakyn highway pegs are pitted and peeling.
My Show Chrome fender extensions are rusting.
My experience sounds like many here. The aftermarket stuff seems to be using some inferior plating process.
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« Reply #22 on: January 26, 2012, 12:10:38 PM » |
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Chrome holding up good. I did how ever had to replace the chrome honda oem res. cover. Think I split gas on it when pulled the tank last. As was mentioned could be the cause on the board awhile back.
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The aftermarket stuff seems to be using some inferior plating process.
that might be true to some extent but overall the epa regulations make it unprofitable to chrome the old fashion way. Mainly, it cost too much to get rid of the by-products. The hazardous material company contracted to haul away the waste products ends up making more than the chromer for his services. Even transporting the chemicals from the supplier has to be done in such and such a way. Whereas, the saddlebag rails on my 2000 Tourer hasn't a speck of rust and the chrome is 12-years old. I surmise, if a chroming outfit is near the border, there's ways of getting around the epa regulations and producing a better chrome job. Clark Foam use to provide virtually all the foam blanks for surfboards. But the owner closed shop becuz the astronomical cost of disposing the by-products shrunk the profit margin and the epa watched him like a hawk. |
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« Reply #24 on: January 26, 2012, 04:46:21 PM » |
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All my chrome is good except for the Cobra boards.
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« Reply #25 on: January 26, 2012, 06:02:19 PM » |
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sugarbear, we have the same bike & your scar'in me. I just ran out in the garage and inspected my chrome. No problems yet. I take it you mean the valve cover bolts? How many times have you had them off?
no, it's the chrome around the bolt. bolts have never been off (that i know of). bought the bike with 18,000 miles, now have 47,000. |
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« Reply #26 on: January 28, 2012, 06:07:25 PM » |
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Dude, time for a valve clearance inspection/adjustment!
Should do it ever 12K.
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« Reply #27 on: January 28, 2012, 08:50:33 PM » |
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been done by several, never needed it. 1 or 2 thousandths at most.
no ticking and runs great. thanks.
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« Reply #28 on: January 29, 2012, 04:10:37 AM » |
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No problem with any of the factory Honda chrome on any of our bikes, but some of the aftermarket parts is another story. Kury Iso grips have held up fairly well considering the sweaty hand & miles they see. Cobra boards & Kury pegs not so good. I was at BikeWeek a few years ago & mentioned the pegs flaking after only a year or so to the Kury rep at their trailer. He handed me a pass & told me to ride it in for an inspection. He took one look at them & handed me a new set. Said I'd hafta wait if I wanted them to install them or I could just take 'em home & do it myself. Mighty nice of him! Well about a year later the new ones are flaking too. Oh well. BTW, the OEM chrome on Hondas seems to hold up very well. The Triumph R3 I had did not have chrome as nice as the much older Valkyrie. Most of the chrome fasteners showed rust after just 2 years. I hope they got that fixed. Here's the only real fix for poor Triumph chrome... handlebars...  floorboards and rails , shifter, frame covers, and bearclaw...(engine guards are Rivco, not Triumph)  luggage rack, saddlebag brackets, and sissy bar...  |
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« Reply #29 on: January 29, 2012, 05:02:17 AM » |
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no, it's the chrome around the bolt. bolts have never been off (that i know of). bought the bike with 18,000 miles, now have 47,000. I must have misunderstood this statement. Thought you said your valve cover bolts have never been off. Sorry |
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« Reply #30 on: January 29, 2012, 02:45:29 PM » |
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no, it's the chrome around the bolt. bolts have never been off (that i know of). bought the bike with 18,000 miles, now have 47,000. I must have misunderstood this statement. Thought you said your valve cover bolts have never been off. Sorry sorry, i typed that wrong. my bikes valves have never been checked(that i know of) a lot of people have checked theirs and almost none were adjusted. i think one or two tweeked theirs a little, only a .001 or two at most. haven't heard of one that NEEDED it. |
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« Reply #31 on: January 29, 2012, 03:03:10 PM » |
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a lot of people have checked theirs and almost none were adjusted. i think one or two tweeked theirs a little, only a .001 or two at most.
haven't heard of one that NEEDED it.
That's a good point, I don't know how far out is too far. But on the Valk I just did with 19K on her, I adjusted 9 of the 12. Granted, they were only out very little, but I was taught by a Honda Trained Service Manager back in 1973, and he made us adjust anything that wasn't perfect. The feeler gauge had to have perfect drag or we did it over. Maybe overkill? |
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« Reply #32 on: January 29, 2012, 05:56:53 PM » |
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well, not trying to offend anyone but, i think too much tinkering is a bad thing.
ride it, if it beaks, fix it. then ride some more. don't go looking for trouble. she'll let you know if
something is wrong.
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« Reply #33 on: January 30, 2012, 06:59:16 PM » |
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well, not trying to offend anyone but, i think too much tinkering is a bad thing.
ride it, if it beaks, fix it. then ride some more. don't go looking for trouble. she'll let you know if
something is wrong.
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« Reply #35 on: January 31, 2012, 04:13:45 AM » |
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I adjusted mine once at the first recommended service interval...3 needed tweeking. I don't plan on doing this again anytime soon, but I wanted to make sure everything was right from the factory to prevent damage just in case the bike was built on a Friday or the day before a long weekend...
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« Reply #36 on: February 01, 2012, 01:31:58 PM » |
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I have a little bubbling happening on the valve covers inside the bolt holes on one side (I have a spare set when they get noticeable from more than a few inches away). I've also been through 4 sets of kury highway pegs, three sets of cobra floorboards, two cobra light bars (although extremely minor pitting inside curve, but I'm picky), two sets of kury tranny covers, two cobra drive shaft covers, three sets of chrome res covers, four sets of exhausts (as well as two sets of shields, one for cobra and one for 2 bros...both pitted and rusted), and I gave up on any chrome pieces on the brake calipers.
I kept the grips stock for the throttlemeister, glad I did reading this thread. The stock grips held up nice. Most of the honda chrome has held up perfectly. Oh, my lamonster risers also pitted and flaked, but I have not yet found a cheap replacement on e-bay for them.
Unfortunately, it costs money to ride it so much in all kinds of weather yet keep it show quality. I buy spare chrome when I see a deal on it. Anything rusts or pits and it gets replaced. Now I just need to find a decent plater near me to bring all the replaced pieces (which I still have) to and get them re chromed.
EDIT: An explanation. For eight years it was an outdoor bike (now garaged), I bought a brand new defender 2000 cover every year and kept it polished and well waxed, but it was still outdoors. Plus I ride NE winters and shoreline summers. Park your bike by the beach one night, even covered it gets a "dew" on it, that dew is salt. Same with riding winter or spring in NE and the roads get wet. In fact, I'd bet that year round there are salt traces in any splash here in NE. Salt and cheap chrome don't mix.
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Mr Steve;
I've used these guys a couple of times, so far very good quality.
Not cheap, but nice.
New England Chrome Plating
63 Thomas StreetEast Hartford, CT 06108-2056
(860) 528-7176
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Unfortunately, it costs money to ride it so much in all kinds of weather yet keep it show quality.... Plus I ride NE winters and shoreline summers. Park your bike by the beach one night, even covered it gets a "dew" on it, that dew is salt. Same with riding winter or spring in NE and the roads get wet. In fact, I'd bet that year round there are salt traces in any splash here in NE. Salt and cheap chrome don't mix.
I know what you mean, mine is outside under a cover as we sit here, about half a mile from the sea. And then there's the stuff they put on the roads when ice is expected... My solution is to thoroughly clean the bike before the weather turns rough and cover it, and every nook and cranny, with ACF 50 and ride it. When there's a suitable period of good winter weather and it's got really dirty, I clean the whole lot off, and re apply the ACF 50. Works ok, not as good as an aircon garage, but I don't have one of those |
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