Nico
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« on: January 27, 2012, 11:07:46 AM » |
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As I rehab our summer condo, I have decided to take out the tub and just go with a shower and tiled floor pan. I have been looking at a premade floor pan that I can just drop in, but on a DIY site I have perused, there is a LOOOONG thread about all the problems with a brand called Tileredi. I am looking for something one piece that I can install myself if at all possible.
The KBRS line of products appears similar to the Tileredi brand, but I was curious if anyone has used this brand and if it works any better than the Tileredi. I was interested in the "Shower Base" product. What are your thoughts on this product?
What do you think about their "Shower Slope" products as opposed to the full shower pan?http://www.kbrsinc.com/site/kbrs_products/showerslope.html
If this is another problematic product, what are my other options for a Do-it-yourself solution?
Thanks in advance for the input.
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Sergeant D
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So your bike has how many cylinders?
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« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2012, 12:21:08 PM » |
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Haven't heard of either before, but I did use a FLASCO (think that is what was called) that I ordered at Home Depot. Was well made and installation was a snap. Just a thought? Total cost was around $400 for a 3x6 ft. back in 2006.
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Sergeant D
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So your bike has how many cylinders?
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« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2012, 12:23:26 PM » |
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Just double checked...it was a LASCO.
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« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2012, 12:45:30 PM » |
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Great thread, thanks for starting. I too have been (somewhat) looking around at shower floor pans. Was the LASCO a custom sized pan, or standard. My shower, like everything else in my freakin house is probaly off somewhere by a half inch. Also, I was an idiot and hired a jack-of-all trades to do this floor when we first moved in. I believe all he did was remove the old tiles (not sure what was under the tiles). He then painted the floor with what looks like roofing tar. He then pour cement down and laid the tiles into the cement. The problem is he cemented right around the drain pipe. Right up to the very top of it. He then place a very flat strainer/screen over the whole of the drain and sunk two screws down into the cement and just let it cure like that. When I tried to remove those two screws to clean the screen, they just snapped off right above the cement. Of course I had already paid him and then never saw him again.  |
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Nico
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« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2012, 01:42:35 PM » |
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Hey Sarge,
Was your floor pan a finished product? I am looking for something I can tile over. But I will check the Lasco site just as well to see what they have.
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« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2012, 01:43:36 PM » |
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You took the tub out??? You took the tub out?!?!?!
Now where will you be able to take a candle-lit, bubble bath while sipping chamomile tea and listening to the collective works of Bette Midler?!?!
...or are you trying to make room for your pedicure station?
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(I'm his brother, I know how he is...)
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Sergeant D
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So your bike has how many cylinders?
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« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2012, 02:27:32 PM » |
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LASCO was a fiberglass pan, about a 1/2 inch thick that you could tile over. They had standard or custom sizes for a bit more. Not sure if they still make em or not, but worked nicely for me at the time. The also had gel coated pans that didn't need tiling, just drop in, attach the plumbing and do the surround. Personally, if I had to do it again, I'd go with a pre-done floor pan and just tile the walls. Less grout work means less cleaning, at least that is what the Misses says. And everybody knows, if momma ain't happy, nobody's happy.
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« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2012, 02:41:35 PM » |
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I work for Home Depot and we have several options for shower floor pans. My store does not stock a tile over pan but have several that are pre-made. The best of that bunch is from ASB and Sterling. Pure acrylic (Vikryl), not fiberglass, comes in left and right drain models so you don't have to move the drain. Acrylic is extremely durable, very pretty and unlike gelcoat/fiberglass, they won't crack. We have the entire acrylic shower wall kits too. A lot of the contractors that I deal with are using these units, around $400-$450, but the time savings are huge. The pans alone run around $150-$200. You can get just the pan, then Hardiebacker the walls and tile over that. Don't forget to replace the shower valve unit while you have it all opened up.  |
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« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2012, 04:09:04 PM » |
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Try Daniels method. I build my own floor pans using the method in the link he referred to. Been doing carpentry for over 40 years, you don't need that much experience.
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« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2012, 07:51:13 AM » |
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I work for Home Depot and we have several options for shower floor pans. My store does not stock a tile over pan but have several that are pre-made. The best of that bunch is from ASB and Sterling. Pure acrylic (Vikryl), not fiberglass, comes in left and right drain models so you don't have to move the drain. Acrylic is extremely durable, very pretty and unlike gelcoat/fiberglass, they won't crack. We have the entire acrylic shower wall kits too. A lot of the contractors that I deal with are using these units, around $400-$450, but the time savings are huge. The pans alone run around $150-$200. You can get just the pan, then Hardiebacker the walls and tile over that. Don't forget to replace the shower valve unit while you have it all opened up. Saw a show last night that shows the perils of those entire shower kits. Many "contractors" are simply covering mold, mildew, and rot problems that the owners, or renters (as they said most go into rental units) aren't aware of. |
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« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2012, 11:04:03 AM » |
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When we do high end houses, we demo, (use a sledge hammer on a castiron tub and break it into pieces) Build a curb using treated 2x4s sometimes cement, and have a fiberglass man make a custom pan wich is then tiled over in mudset. One thing to keep in mind is the drain, ie is it being moved to center, a preformed pan uses a 2" pvc stub with a compression fit drain, A custom pan uses a 2 part drain with a flange that sandwiches the pan. If you move the drain, (prolly will have to with preformed becaused drain is centered, keep in mind there is a trap down there. I have the kerdi system in my personal house and it's ok(freebie) and you can tile over the membrane, Avoid rubber liner style pans. Good luck
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