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« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2012, 12:01:44 PM » |
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I read somewhere one of those spanked a Rocket III. Have no idea how bad, or if actually true....just read it, didn't see any proof. First thing I'd do is lose those stupid mini-apes so I have some good control.
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« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2012, 12:23:41 PM » |
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« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2012, 12:31:59 PM » |
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I dig the mini apes, I would just lean them back a little more. I'm 6'4" and need the height in the bars. Before I swapped out the bars on the Valkyrie for mini apes I was getting a lot of neck and shoulder pain. Now I can ride longer before I start to fatigue. There is also very little pullback so they are like a combination of drag bars and apes.  |
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« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2012, 12:33:50 PM » |
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Well Gary ??? Did you get it ?
No Joe,......unfortunately, my wife CAN HIDE MONEY !! |
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« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2012, 12:35:31 PM » |
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He's barely got it leaned over and it looks like things are ready to drag and spark!
There is 4.5" of ground clearance, Clarence. As opposed to 5" on most other bikes. |
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« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2012, 12:45:02 PM » |
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Would'nt spank a Rocket III, will not beat a good Valk, specially with those silly bars. Hoser
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« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2012, 12:49:41 PM » |
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Would'nt spank a Rocket III, will not beat a good Valk. Hoser
1700 something cc's and over 100 lb/ft torque and six speed tranny, about 150 lbs lighter......it just might beat the valkyrie, maybe not a blown one, though. |
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« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2012, 04:26:20 PM » |
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If I were in the market for a new motorcycle, I'd go straight to a Victory dealer and get a white Cross Country Tour. I like the bike, the company and that they're American made.
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« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2012, 04:57:49 PM » |
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Would'nt spank a Rocket III, will not beat a good Valk. Hoser
1700 something cc's and over 100 lb/ft torque and six speed tranny, about 150 lbs lighter......it just might beat the valkyrie, maybe not a blown one, though. It might, but one never knows till ya try, I only tryed one, and I beat him. It was that big ugly one that looks like Bozo the clown. I left him when I shifted to 5th at about 100, maybe he didn't want to go that fast. We rolled on at about 45 on I70, I was in 3rd. ??? Valkyries don't too bad in torque numbers. Hoser  |
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« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2012, 05:16:58 PM » |
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You say you're 6'4". Does that bike fit you?
I'm 6'2". That's one of the major reasons I bought a Valk....because it fit me. I love Harleys, but I haven't found one that I can sit on without feeling cramped.
I've been curious about the Victorys, but I've never checked them out or sat on any.
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« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2012, 06:59:35 PM » |
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If I were in the market for a new motorcycle, I'd go straight to a Victory dealer and get a white Cross Country Tour. I like the bike, the company and that they're American made. The Victory XC Tour is a good looking bike, but that Victory Vision just doesn't do it for me. I'm not a fan of the space shuttle look. |
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« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2012, 07:03:08 PM » |
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That could never replace the Valk and if I were thinking of another stable mate that would not be top of my list. YMMV
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« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2012, 07:34:03 PM » |
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I read somewhere one of those spanked a Rocket III. Have no idea how bad, or if actually true....just read it, didn't see any proof. First thing I'd do is lose those stupid mini-apes so I have some good control.
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« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2012, 07:41:12 PM » |
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That could never replace the Valk and if I were thinking of another stable mate that would not be top of my list. YMMV
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Would'nt spank a Rocket III, will not beat a good Valk, specially with those silly bars. Hoser
Will not beat a rocket 111roadster maybe the new bagger.I have ridden the r111 when they first came out an my valk couldn't even get close to it in a race.My son is a dealer an I seen him do a burnout at 50 miles an hour |
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« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2012, 07:56:31 PM » |
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I'm not a fan of mini-apes either (I actually like the look but don't care for the control feel) but that Victory engine is really, really powerful and the bikes are nice. If it fits you and it functions as you ask and turns your crank then what's not to like?
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« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2012, 08:47:52 PM » |
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that Victory engine is really, really powerful and the bikes are nice. Not all of the Victory's felt powerful. The Cross Country and the Vision didn't impress me with power. Now the Hammer was a different story, when you roll back the throttle it will put a wide grin on your face. Even the factory rep at the event where I rode the Victory's couldn't explain why the Hammer had so much more power. He said that it might be because the Hammer was lighter. But right after riding the Hammer I rode a stripped down Kingpin and it couldn't hold a candle to the Hammer. The guy riding the Hammer when I rode the Kingpin took off from a stop and I couldn't even stay close and I was well into the rev limiter trying. |
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« Reply #20 on: January 28, 2012, 05:49:09 AM » |
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its funny to me that when some post dyno runs that the max torque and max hp are only for about 500 rpms then it falls back off..
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« Reply #21 on: January 28, 2012, 05:50:29 AM » |
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Would'nt spank a Rocket III, will not beat a good Valk, specially with those silly bars. Hoser
Will not beat a rocket 111roadster maybe the new bagger.I have ridden the r111 when they first came out an my valk couldn't even get close to it in a race.My son is a dealer an I seen him do a burnout at 50 miles an hour I agree, neither a Valk, unless it was supercharged, or any Victory would touch a Rocket III. If I had one, it would be the Tour model, though. Hoser |
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« Reply #22 on: January 28, 2012, 05:58:12 AM » |
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its funny to me that when some post dyno runs that the max torque and max hp are only for about 500 rpms then it falls back off..
That's the main reason to run a dyno run, to find out what the rpm is at maximum torque, so you can shift at that rpm. Keep it in the power range, so the saying goes. There's more to drag racing than slammin gears at red line.  Hoser |
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« Reply #23 on: January 28, 2012, 06:54:16 AM » |
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« Reply #24 on: January 28, 2012, 06:57:48 AM » |
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Test rode several Victory's back in the summer. Most of them left me "Unimpressed". But if I were in the market for a kick around bike a Victory Hammer would definitely be on my "Short List". Great looking ride, but does it really need to be painted in Harley livery? |
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« Reply #25 on: January 28, 2012, 07:40:27 AM » |
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I only tryed one, and I beat him. It was that big ugly one that looks like Bozo the clown.
Would this be the one of which you speak? It does look like you could stuff several mini clowns in that trunk. This was taken out at Cook's Corner in the Trabuco Canyon area in So Cal. Stopped off for lunch and this definitely had everyones attention. Reminded me a lot of when the Valk first came out (attention-wise only). Not my taste personally.  |
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« Reply #26 on: January 28, 2012, 08:10:54 AM » |
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Test rode several Victory's back in the summer. Most of them left me "Unimpressed". But if I were in the market for a kick around bike a Victory Hammer would definitely be on my "Short List". Great looking ride, but does it really need to be painted in Harley livery? It comes in white too  But I kinda like the Black and Orange. |
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« Reply #28 on: January 28, 2012, 12:17:40 PM » |
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Victory's are a great motorcycles. I was convinced when I test rode them last april. My wife & I were so impressed we bought one for each of us, her a Vegas last June, and me a Cross Country, 2 weeks ago. IMO they are the sexiest bikes on the road. Sure they're V-Twins, but what's wrong with that?Little Z's Vegas  (and yes, she is faster than Valks) Cross Country  (identical to mine, don't have pics of mine yet) It's nice having 2 new steeds in the stable. BTW, There's nothing like a Valkyrie. Going to keep the Valk for now, maybe customize it in the future. |
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The only v-twin that even slightly interests me is the M109 Suzuki.
And I'm not REAL interested in it. As far as companies go....I'd much
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The only v-twin that even slightly interests me is the M109 Suzuki.
And I'm not REAL interested in it. As far as companies go....I'd much
rather have a Victory than a harley. YMMV.
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I read somewhere one of those spanked a Rocket III. Have no idea how bad, or if actually true....just read it, didn't see any proof. First thing I'd do is lose those stupid mini-apes so I have some good control.
as a former Rocket III owner I can pretty much GUARANTEE THAT DIDNT HAPPEN.. ride one and you'll see WHY As another former R3 owner I must definitely second or third this motion. From what I've seen & heard among the V-twin herd of big cruisers only the M109 has a prayer of besting a Rocket 3. This of course is off the showroom floor. The torque of the R3 is beyond belief! There is this thing called the "Rocket grin".  Twist the throttle on one & you'll understand.   |
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I read somewhere one of those spanked a Rocket III. Have no idea how bad, or if actually true....just read it, didn't see any proof. First thing I'd do is lose those stupid mini-apes so I have some good control.
as a former Rocket III owner I can pretty much GUARANTEE THAT DIDNT HAPPEN.. ride one and you'll see WHY As another former R3 owner I must definitely second or third this motion. From what I've seen & heard among the V-twin herd of big cruisers only the M109 has a prayer of besting a Rocket 3. This of course is off the showroom floor. The torque of the R3 is beyond belief! There is this thing called the "Rocket grin". Twist the throttle on one & you'll understand. HEY T. t. you wouldnt by any chance still have a pic. of my RIII would ya? I cant believe I didnt take any of it.. well yeah.. I can.. didnt take any of either of my valks either.. |
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Would'nt spank a Rocket III, will not beat a good Valk, specially with those silly bars. Hoser
Will not beat a rocket 111roadster maybe the new bagger.I have ridden the r111 when they first came out an my valk couldn't even get close to it in a race.My son is a dealer an I seen him do a burnout at 50 miles an hour Unless you wait for the trumpet to break down, which they do with anoying regularity. Been there done that never again. I like the Victory cross country and if you are a tall rider they fit much better than the valk. In fact price was the main reason I bought my interstate. I am happy with my choice but its replacement will be a CC eventually. |
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Just curious... can the Rocket III keep up with a Hayabusa? Nearly double the displacement.
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We think the Vics are nice bikes and the XRoad and XCountry in particular have strong visual appeal. We looked closely at the XRoads SE recently and came away much impressed. Would dearly love to test ride one. However, like some others here, we would be surprised (verily, astonished) if the Vic VTwin can "spank" a Rocket III in any sort of speed contest. In a show of power and speed, few cruisers can match the RIII, we think. We trudge on. Just can't get pass that ugly tractor motor  |
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Will not beat a rocket 111roadster maybe the new bagger.I have ridden the r111 when they first came out an my valk couldn't even get close to it in a race.My son is a dealer an I seen him do a burnout at 50 miles an hour I've rode one and pushed it hard...50 mph burn-out ???  |
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I traded the Valk for a X-Country and really like the bike. If I was to do it again I would look into the X-Country Tour. All the sharp edges on the XC cause some helmet shake that the lowers on the Tour address. As far as power, it is a low end bike and the Valk came on higher in the RPMs. The XC is alot lighter going slow. With the six speed and design of the engine it will not shake your teeth out. With a Valk it is getting harder to get aftermarket bling, with Victory the aftermarket is not good either, new bike and Victory seems to keep tight controls on who sells their stuff.
As to the Hammer having more power I know Victory puts different cams in some models to step them up a bit, my son's Vegas will outrun the XC I have and I was told it was the cam.
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