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Author Topic: Noise that changes with road surface smoothness looking for ideas on source  (Read 2844 times)
Quicksilver
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« on: May 11, 2009, 05:10:06 PM »

I ride a 97 standard with windshield. 65000 km. I have noise that seems to come from the front. I've changed my front wheel bearings, tried removing front fender to see if that made a difference. put a shim behind rad cover to prevent it from vibrating, tightened cross bolt behind rad.
No noise when stopped , only when moving, and it varies depending on the roughness of the pavement. I figure
something is picking up the sound from the road surface and causing it to echo within some box like component.

I haven't pulled the tank yet to see if something under there is loose. I've read I should expect transmission noise , however I doubt it varies with the road surface.  Undecided
The bike runs great and the powertrain is unaffected by this noise.
Any ideas ?
Thanks
Quicksilver
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DeathWishBikerDude
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« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2009, 06:27:31 PM »

dunflops.
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Shockbushing Gary
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« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2009, 07:02:33 PM »

It's your tires.
As they wear, they develop a wear pattern that makes noise.
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Quicksilver
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« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2009, 08:50:38 PM »

Thanks for the ideas. It's a darn shame if that is the problem  Sad considering that there seems to be so little wear on them. They are Dunlop e3s. Perhaps as the weather warms up they'll quiet down. It's nice to know it's not some major mechanical problem anyway.
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Jay
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« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2009, 07:38:24 AM »

I've been running an E3 for about 7k miles.  Previously ran Venoms, Bridgestone, Metzler.  Other than the Venoms, they all made a variety of noises, growling, slapping, etc.
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MP
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« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2009, 07:40:31 AM »

My VW car tires make noises that change a lot depending on the type of road surface.  You will have to live with it.
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« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2009, 03:44:06 PM »

I put a new set of E3's on my interstate last year. After 12000 miles finally wore them out and they made noise the whole time. Also they bounced, shimmied, made strange noises depending on the road surface. Switched to Avon Cobra and the bike rides like it's on rails. But, it makes a totally different sound on the different road surfaces. I only have a couple hundred miles on these tires, and they seem to be getting quieter as the get broken in. We'll see how these work out. cooldude
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Airetime
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« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2009, 04:11:59 PM »

I ride a 97 standard with windshield. 65000 km. I have noise that seems to come from the front. I've changed my front wheel bearings, tried removing front fender to see if that made a difference. put a shim behind rad cover to prevent it from vibrating, tightened cross bolt behind rad.
No noise when stopped , only when moving, and it varies depending on the roughness of the pavement. I figure
something is picking up the sound from the road surface and causing it to echo within some box like component.

I haven't pulled the tank yet to see if something under there is loose. I've read I should expect transmission noise , however I doubt it varies with the road surface.  Undecided
The bike runs great and the powertrain is unaffected by this noise.
Any ideas ?
Thanks
Quicksilver

  Dang noise Stupid thing! Won't Stop! Agggrrr!  What happens is that any and I mean any noise that comes from the front end is magnified by the windshield.  Angry Everything is amplified by bouncing off the plastic shield. This can be wind, road, timing belt, tensioners, caliper, brake pads or even over inflation/under inflation of the tire.

Try this, take the windshield off, ride it and see if the noise dissapears  cooldude it probably will.
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« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2009, 05:07:43 PM »

Ditto Michvalk's comments on the Avon Cobras. Different noises from different road surfaces with the Cobras.
The noise IS your tires. Wink


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« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2009, 08:26:47 AM »

Make sure that your tire are properly inflated. Underinflation caues strange wear patterns as well as instability, wobbles, and increases in road noise. The windshield only amplifies road/tire noise.

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« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2009, 07:46:58 AM »

One other thing to check is the Tach Drive gear, and cable.  The Drive unit is on the left side of the front axle.  But I agree, most likely tires.  Mine growl in turns once they have about 5k miles on them.

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Quicksilver
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« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2009, 01:43:56 AM »

You were right about the windshield. I took it off and could hardly hear any noise. cooldude I do prefer riding with it though, it's been very cool around here so far this year. I increased tire pressure to 50 psi to see if that changed anything, it didn't. I'm running at 40 psi now. I suppose I'll just have to live with it until they wear out and I can get a better tire.
Thanks
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Airetime
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« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2009, 07:52:39 PM »

You were right about the windshield. I took it off and could hardly hear any noise. cooldude I do prefer riding with it though, it's been very cool around here so far this year. I increased tire pressure to 50 psi to see if that changed anything, it didn't. I'm running at 40 psi now. I suppose I'll just have to live with it until they wear out and I can get a better tire.
Thanks
QUicksilver

At least you know  cooldude
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Quicksilver
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« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2009, 09:49:06 PM »

I think I found the source of the noise. The side cover on left side over the reservoir had a worn grommet allowing the cover to vibrate. I changed the grommet and reduced the noise.  Cool
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Stanley Steamer
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« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2009, 12:22:56 PM »

Thanks for the ideas. It's a darn shame if that is the problem  Sad considering that there seems to be so little wear on them. They are Dunlop e3s. Perhaps as the weather warms up they'll quiet down. It's nice to know it's not some major mechanical problem anyway.
Quicksilver

I had ONE Dunflop E3 on my bike...it was the most noisy front tire of any I've ever had....and that was from day one until it wore out and was replaced!..
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