Smokinjoe-VRCCDS#0005
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« on: February 10, 2012, 03:49:21 AM » |
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The company I work for has hired a couple thousand as well in east Tennessee / north Alabama to finish a couple nukes started back in the 70's...It's the future tell the kids and grand-kids and it pays better than Wally World and Micky D's....Not sure about the Georgia plant but the one's that the company I work for are building it is a union workforce so you won't have a thousand illegal Mexican's flooding the area taking good paying jobs away from Americans.
BURKE COUNTY, Ga. -- Many of the 23,000 residents of rural Burke County in east Georgia heaved a sigh of relief Thursday at news that the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission approved the building of two more nuclear reactors at nearby Plant Vogtle.
The two original reactors of the plant went on line 25 years ago and construction on the new ones is already underway.
RELATED | NRC approves 2 new nuclear reactors for Georgia
The $14-billion expansion means thousands of jobs for the economically depressed area: 4,000 temporary construction jobs and more than 800 permanent ones when the new reactors are finished in about 5 years.
That will also double the permanent work force at the plant.
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« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2012, 04:28:05 AM » |
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awesome.......glad to hear it. Glad to hear it is a Union Workforce.....at least it will be built with skilled workers......Nukes are nothing to mess with when it comes to workmanship
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Jabba
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« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2012, 04:29:40 AM » |
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Boy... it's about time for this.
I am a nuke operator from the Navy... and and a very big supporter of Nuke power. I do not work in that industry now. I don't REALLY plan to either.
I say lets build a lot of plants all over. Upgrade our distribution network. If we have cheap, reliable electricity, we can do whatever else we want for portable fuel. Let the Arabs EAT their oil.
We could convert the gas stations in America to Hydrogen stations. All they would need is electricity and water... and they could MAKE their own hydrogen. And we'd all be driving around in Hydrogen cars.
Sign me UP!
The best part... gas engines are pretty easy to convert to hydrogen.
Jabba
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« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2012, 04:34:52 AM » |
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Won't help me at the end of my nuclear career, but it will help the next generation. I started at commercial nukes in 1978...coming up on 34 years as a Chemist and Radiological Engineer. It's been a great career, high paying, and technically challenging. Hopefully there is a good pool of scientists coming out of the colleges....not so sure though.
Glad to see the renaissance...
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« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2012, 02:06:13 PM » |
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Boy... it's about time for this.
I am a nuke operator from the Navy... and and a very big supporter of Nuke power. I do not work in that industry now. I don't REALLY plan to either.
I say lets build a lot of plants all over. Upgrade our distribution network. If we have cheap, reliable electricity, we can do whatever else we want for portable fuel. Let the Arabs EAT their oil.
We could convert the gas stations in America to Hydrogen stations. All they would need is electricity and water... and they could MAKE their own hydrogen. And we'd all be driving around in Hydrogen cars.
Sign me UP!
The best part... gas engines are pretty easy to convert to hydrogen.
Jabba
Jabba for President. I'd vote for him. He's dead on the money about nuclear power. But the tree huggers on the left and the oil men on the right will both fight that idea.
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« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2012, 03:06:08 PM » |
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Jabba for President. I'd vote for him. He's dead on the money about nuclear power. But the tree huggers on the left and the oil men on the right will both fight that idea. That's odd, because in my part of the country we use coal fired plants to generate electricity. As a backup we use natural gas.
We do have a nuclear plant, but electricity from the nuclear plant is more expensive than that from the coal or gas.
I'm all for nuclear power, but I'm not certain how much it will help with our dependence on Arab oil.
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« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2012, 06:23:23 PM » |
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catapiller charging out of Il, wow thats a shocker. higher taxes anyone? it seems to be working in Illinois (it's emptying the state)
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« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2012, 06:24:54 PM » |
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I don't want to rain on anyone's parade, but I heard the eco-ninnies are readying lawsuits to block the nukes.
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« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2012, 06:45:48 PM » |
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I worked on the original Plant Vogtle in Georgia from May 1981 to September 1985. It was a good union job, 8000 construction workers from all over the country.
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« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2012, 07:17:20 PM » |
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Smokinjoe-VRCCDS#0005
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« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2012, 01:54:00 AM » |
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I don't want to rain on anyone's parade, but I heard the eco-ninnies are readying lawsuits to block the nukes.
The two nuke plants that the company I work for is already underway....These are not new in fact they was started in the early 70's and pretty much will have to be redone throughout.One of them was to cost 360 million to have two reactors up and running in the 70's...Today only one is making power and they have spent over 24 billion unit 2 is said to be ready to go on line next year  I've heard from many that the life-span of these nukes will NEVER make enough power to pay for them...Only good thing is thousands of folks have fed their family's while building them.
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 I've seen alot of people that thought they were cool , but then again Lord I've seen alot of fools.
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« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2012, 04:51:37 AM » |
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Nukes ==== No Green House Gases.
They are sustainable.
DOwn Blending old Nuke War Heads from Russia and USA will power them.
WIN WIN as far as the AMerican People are concerned.
I and millions of other folks are behind this.
I like the spelling I used on the NUKES.
Looks more powerful.
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« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2012, 04:58:03 AM » |
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New technology will make these new plants more economical
New plants can can be made much smaller.
IF they follow the US Navy which has zero accidents on Nuclear Power.
They can make these very portable.
Manufactured elsewhere and installed in local municipalities.
Tech has changed on this application and it will be more of a viable option in the future.
France, Japan(EVEN WITH THEIR PROBLEMS) are still relying heavily on Nuclear Power.
It is not going away.
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« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2012, 05:42:23 AM » |
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I remember the South Texas Project,, after building on it for ten years and quadrupling the the estimate they had to fire the unions and they brought in Brown and Root to finish it... i was one that got run off..I was working for Bechtel at the time
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Smokinjoe-VRCCDS#0005
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« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2012, 07:25:26 AM » |
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I remember the South Texas Project,, after building on it for ten years and quadrupling the the estimate they had to fire the unions and they brought in Brown and Root to finish it... i was one that got run off..I was working for Bechtel at the time
Brown and Root ....Two words that should never be used together  It's the NRC that drive's the cost up.....Union workforce the only way to go if not a million Mexican's will be flooding the area.Go look right now at the new Wacker's factory and the new Amazon Distribution Center being build in east Tennessee....Probably 80% to 85% Mexican's working it was the same when they built the VW plant a few years ago.
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« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2012, 07:38:21 AM » |
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ya know Joe,, putting the union and non-union issues aside,, we are going to have to do something about the cheap labor problems here. I dont know what, but something is going to have to give to get our people back to work.. I am buying a 1900 home here in Springfield and am having quite an extensive amount of work done,, my stipulation to the contractor is,,only local, legal, people are to work on it..
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« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2012, 09:42:22 AM » |
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I grew up 40 miles from San Onofre Nuke plant. The out fall pipe from the cooling system was the only place to fish. I asked some folks if it was OK and safe they all said it was. I grabbed a 15lb pacific lobster from that area. He didnt seem to like the hot coals from the beach fire but once he settled down he was delicious. I'm all for it.
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« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2012, 02:46:02 PM » |
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I don't want to rain on anyone's parade, but I heard the eco-ninnies are readying lawsuits to block the nukes.
The two nuke plants that the company I work for is already underway....These are not new in fact they was started in the early 70's and pretty much will have to be redone throughout.One of them was to cost 360 million to have two reactors up and running in the 70's...Today only one is making power and they have spent over 24 billion unit 2 is said to be ready to go on line next year  I've heard from many that the life-span of these nukes will NEVER make enough power to pay for them...Only good thing is thousands of folks have fed their family's while building them. if your big-oil big-nuke big-pharma big anything not related to building wind mills and you so much as fart the eco-nuts will threaten you with a lawsuit 
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« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2012, 03:34:39 PM » |
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catapiller charging out of Il, wow thats a shocker. higher taxes anyone? it seems to be working in Illinois (it's emptying the state) Big Yellow has been fleeing my state since the 80's. Some of it has to do with the high taxes, more has to do with the union. I'm not about to discuss unions...whole nother subject. But the great pay the workers made, the benefits that couldn't be matched, coupled with the almost constant threat of strikes made the company look to other states for a workforce. I wanted to be a 3rd gen Cat worker but when I was in high school they started turning the East Peoria area into a parking lot and future home to Wally World and Bass Pro. Cat figured out that they could pay workers in Griffin GA and South Carolina etc. one third of the salary, little to no benefits and still get the product out. Plus no threats of strike and there you go. Mapelton IL is down the road from me. They used to cast all the engine blocks there and now blocks come from Brazil. And they have alot of problems. Before Cat rid itself of the OTR truck engine division, blocks from Brazil had such porosity problems that Cat's solution was to slop 2 coats of paint on them to stop the oil leaks long enough to get through the warranty. I know this as I worked on the dyno test line at that time...albeit as a non union slave. Not my choice...I needed to work too. Just wanted to point out that taxes aren't Big Yellows only motivation for leaving the land of crooked governors. IMO the only thing left here in the future as far as Cat goes may be the World HQ in Peoria and maybe the Tech Center.
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« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2012, 04:16:24 AM » |
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It's totally true that regulation is what drives the cost of Nuke power up.
I interviewed an anti-Nuke lobbyist once for a paper in college, and I pretended to be anti-nuke for a while. He actually admitted to me that was their only real option to drive the cost up, and then attack the economics of it.
France DOES use US Navy technology. Small reactors with a natural negative coefficient of reactivity. they are inherently stable, and can be shut down by flooding them in an emergency. Big commercial cores are not like that.
Coal... I am far from a global warming guy... but WOW do they pump the crud into the air. I mean, it CAN'T be GOOD for us.
I'd live on the shores of a new reservoir built to service a new nuke plant. Especially if I was working at it.
Let's call the "big oil" guys... "big energy". They are the ones with the resources to build these plants. Let's get 'er done.
Jabba
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