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« on: February 12, 2012, 05:22:50 PM » |
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I changed the timing belts on my 2000 IS today. 36000 miles. The belts looked good to me, but the tensioner pulleys had rubber deposits on them. Looked like maybe the belt was hot or maybe was flapping and some how transfered rubber on the tensioner pulleys. The pulleys were not completely covered, just little spots here and there. I cleaned them and put it together. Anyone seen this before? Also was not sure how tight the belts were supposed to be. Used manuel but still was not sure. The belts were flapping some so I tightened them a little and they looked better. Ran good. Any feed back would be appreciated.
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JC
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« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2012, 05:34:59 PM » |
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I just changed mine too (44,000 miles), and found pretty much the same thing you did. Don't think there was anything unusual. There needs to be a little slack to allow for heat expansion of the engine.
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« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2012, 06:08:05 PM » |
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THANKS, HOPE I DID IT RIGHT
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« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2012, 06:13:11 PM » |
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Had the belts been installed WRONG you would have known in an instant or much sooner.  99 I/S had the same deposits you speak of.  RIDE SAFE. |
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Patrick
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« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2012, 05:06:46 AM » |
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Rubber on the idlers is normal, just clean them.. The Honda manual is pretty clear on the instructions.. The clearance/slack should be .02-.03", but, they run quieter at 3/8"..
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« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2012, 08:11:17 AM » |
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I had similar findings on the tension pulleys when I changed them out at around 110000. Cleaned them up and installed new belts. Got 220000, prolly should look at them again.  |
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« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2012, 12:07:49 PM » |
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wow. some of you are changing belts at 30,000 - 40,000? I bought a set of belts and was gonna change mine as soon as i reached 70k but my mechanic said that it was pointless and the recommended change point was 100k/miles. i'm at 65,00 now. should i go ahead and change em out????  |
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« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2012, 01:35:47 PM » |
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My 98 Tourer is at 92,800 miles. I will probably wait until next winter when it's over 100k. The manual states checking the belts at 100k not replacing.
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« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2012, 01:36:11 PM » |
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Honda recommends 'inspection' of the belts at 100,000. Most of the other suggestions are for mainly peace of mind. I changed mine at 125,000, but they still looked perfect at that point.
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« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2012, 01:42:13 PM » |
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wow. some of you are changing belts at 30,000 - 40,000? I bought a set of belts and was gonna change mine as soon as i reached 70k but my mechanic said that it was pointless and the recommended change point was 100k/miles. i'm at 65,00 now. should i go ahead and change em out???? I did mine because they were 15 years old (97 Tourer) and I just felt better about it. Truth is they looked fine and would have likely made 100K without issue, but since I had her torn down for new paint I decided to bite the bullet and do it anyway. With 2 months downtime I've done a lot more than I intended when I started this project including all new cables, hoses, belts, fluids, seats, lights, horns, fairing, and of course more shiny stuff. It's kept me busy for the winter, and I won't have to worry about any of it for a while now, but my wallet hurts. |
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« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2012, 06:03:46 AM » |
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Yep, Honda says to check 'em at 100K.. But like Valker says, a lot of fellas do them cuz it makes them feel better.. I happen to think that age has as much to do with them as mileage does.. It not a difficult job and as many other timing belts as I change, its cheap insurance since these are not clearance engines.. A modern timing belt looks great right up to the second it decides to come apart..
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« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2012, 01:08:43 PM » |
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I changed mine at 150,000. They looked fine.
You're changing them for peace of mind. Do it when your mind is no longer at peace.
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« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2012, 04:47:21 PM » |
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Someone here years ago said Honda recommends their automobile cam belts be replaced at 100,000 miles or ten years. I replaced mine when they hit 10 years even though they were under 100,000 miles. As Willow said, peace of mind.
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« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2012, 05:34:06 PM » |
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Do you all know of anyone having a belt fail yet?
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« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2012, 04:26:37 AM » |
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I don't recall anyone saying that one has broke.. But, these monsters are starting to age.. Several have mentioned installing/reinstalling them incorrectly leading to pistons and valves trying occupy the same space at the same time. The valves lose..
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« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2012, 08:49:23 AM » |
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I think a lot of the timing belt issue comes from the older GL1000 Goldwing bikes. Honda's recommendation on changes was much less back then. If you frequent a GL board, you can't mention buying a bike without someone advising that you should change the belts. I am sure most of that comes from the bike being 30 plus years old.
With an interference engine if the belt breaks, you have MAJOR issues.
Peace of mind goes a long ways.
Jim
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« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2012, 04:53:09 PM » |
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I've seen interference engine's that have interfered with each other, its UGLY. Thankfully if properly maintained its not really an issue. Guy I work with had the 2.0 Zetec (?) in his focus throw the belt. Broke Every damn thing in that cylinder head.
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« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2012, 05:36:03 PM » |
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Yep. A small price for peace of mind.
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« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2012, 06:14:28 AM » |
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As one old gent said that worked in a Honda shop...."Honda guarantees the belts for the life of the engine. You break a belt, that's the life of the engine!" His thoughts were basically the same as mine and others on here...age and peace of mind. I'm at the age where I need peace of mind.  As for the belts failing, I've seen them on a GL1000 go over 250k, and they were the factory originals. So, who knows....maybe The Shadow? |
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