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« on: February 21, 2012, 11:10:53 AM » |
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I'm getting ready to remove and install my rear wheel and put in new bearings...
I noticed on the parts fiche that the axle shaft is put in from the rotor side on the parts fiche.... Mine is in from the final drive side. The last time is was done was a the dealer.... Which way is right?
Also, there is a plastic washer on the small end of the wheel/axle spacer, but it doesn't show on the parts fiche. This is actually on the spacer, not on the spider...that one I know about. Is that supposed to there?
Thanks!
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Bone
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« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2012, 11:24:13 AM » |
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My 98 Tourer is from the drive side. No plastic washer.
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ptgb
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« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2012, 11:33:10 AM » |
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My understanding is the parts fiche is wrong.
Goes in on the final drive side (right), nut goes on the brake side (left). No washer.
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BikernDiver
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« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2012, 01:42:36 PM » |
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Thanks ! I'll tear it down tonight and get it back on the road for the weekend.
Your help is greatly appreciated.
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Ricky-D
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« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2012, 12:30:59 PM » |
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The axle goes thru the pumpkin first with the nut on the left side of the swingarm. The reasoning being if a bearing freezes up and grabs the axle it will tend to not loosen up the axle nut if the axle starts turning.
The plastic washer is called the thrust washer and sits between the flange (star) and the drive gear. It has a bearing upon wear associated with splines it is said.
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Please see my last post in this thread where I corrected myself regarding placement of the "thrust washer".
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RonW
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« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2012, 06:54:08 PM » |
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Happy Wednesday. It may be just me, but I take photos before pulling things apart. That's just in case the Oem diagrams are incorrect. And memory or lack thereof which is no laughing matter. Anyways, the fiche does in fact show the rear axle facing in the wrong direction. If the axle were installed from the bike's left side, this would place the axle nut on the right side of the rear wheel. The rotation of the wheel would loosen the axle nut moreso if you burn rubber. If you remember, bicylcles have a left-hand nut on the right side of the wheels to prevent this. The left-hand nut tightens in the counter-clockwise direction, so the clockwise motion of a spinning wheel tightens the left-hand nut or at least keeps it snug and so forth. A right-hand nut can only be on the left side of the wheel. True, the nut for the front axle is on the right side of the front wheel but then the axle shaft is held in place by pinch bolts on both sides' forks and the front wheel itself is not driven by torque.  |
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RonW
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« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2012, 07:21:35 PM » |
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The plastic washer is called the thrust washer 'and sits between the flange (star) and the drive gear '.
I've never double-checked to see if the thrust washer was seated properly before installing the rear wheel hub back into the pumpkin, so this has set off alarm bells. Neither ever pulled the 5-star driven flange from the rubber dampers. Thusly ....    |
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Ricky-D
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« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2012, 07:42:11 AM » |
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Ok, I was confused so I went out and looked at my stuff in the shop.
The thrust washer goes between the star and the wheel.
That would be the picture in the center as you has posted.
As to the question about falling off,,,,, you are correct. It sure can fall off and since it is plastic, may not be noticed as missing.
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RonW
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« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2012, 02:50:33 PM » |
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thanks. In my case, when installing the rear wheel into the pumpkin I had taken the rear wheel on and off about 5 times because I wasn't sure that the metal 'collar' was straight. So in the back of my mind perhaps the thrust washer fell off. I don't have a well lit-ed work space. The area underneath the fender is even more dark-ish side at nights.
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« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2012, 04:33:41 PM » |
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When reinstalling the thrust washer during my first rear end checkup, I used a few dabs of the same heavy moly grease that I had put on the splines to kinda glue it in place.
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« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2012, 05:59:38 PM » |
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When reinstalling the thrust washer during my first rear end checkup, I used a few dabs of the same heavy moly grease that I had put on the splines to kinda glue it in place.
I grease the thrust washer also. I haven't checked the manual but I've always assumed the washer should be greased. |
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« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2012, 06:12:37 PM » |
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I think the service manual says to lube the thrust washer with moly and, yes, that will hold it in place.
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Bone
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« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2012, 06:20:44 PM » |
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Apply molybdenum disulfide paste to the whole surface of the
thrust washer.
lnstatl the thrust washer and the final driven flange onto the
wheel hub.
FINAL DRIVEN FLANGE
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ptgb
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« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2012, 06:22:27 PM » |
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I "paint" moly paste on the interior part of the flange where the thrust washer sits. Place the thrust washer in the paste and then "paint" over the thrust washer with the moly. Not thick by any means, just a coat.
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« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2012, 06:56:32 PM » |
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don't go overly crazy with the moly paste, it'll end up all over the side of your wheel if you do!! my expierence has made it a requirement to check the drive shaft and pinion cup as often as you do your spline.
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