Well, it looks like I won't be able to make INzane after all due to gas price...

[Alien]

My wife and I are in the middle of a house remodel and are trying to adopt a child.  I budgeted for the trip at $4.00/gallon (because gas goes up in the summer) and it was pretty tight.  Now, it's just not doable. 

Everybody ride safe and I hope to meet y'all next year.

Scott

[R J]

Scott here in the Midwest it is only up to $3.49 as of this morning.

[Jack]

It is $3.55 here in Arkansas.

[alph]

i think that more people should cancel their plans for vacations this summer, send the economy your opinion of gas prices that way!!  come november when everything tanks, maybe someone will get the idea!  

if you're a farmer, don't plant this year. let those saudi's starve, you can't "eat" oil.....

[x]

Sorry... I'd like to understand how such a minor expense in the reality of life stops you from going to Inzane

[alph]

Sorry... I'd like to understand how such a minor expense in the reality of life stops you from going to Inzane

see, it's like this, some people live on a budget, they don't make the BOO-KOO tax free bucks like you so they have to live within thier meens.  you're like a politician, out of touch with reality.

[Oss]

let them eat cake?

( I dont think  Marie A ever really said that though)

but seriously,

time and money and commitments to family trump having fun on a trip

I can respect that you are trying to plan but there is a liberal cancellation policy at inzane so why not just leave the reservation and put a circle around last cancel date in case your financial position does not improve between now and then


I hope that things work out for you and someday you will be able to join us

or even better, that gas prices will plunge soon so you can do it all this year

[Alien]

Sorry... I'd like to understand how such a minor expense in the reality of life stops you from going to Inzane

Well, not that it's any of your concern, but my wife's job is tied to the school calendar so she doesn't work during the summer, so we depend on my salary alone.  Every spare dime we have has been funnelled into the house to make it a place where we can raise a family.  As it was, I was going to have to camp and keep my food expenses to a minimum.  Even a slight rise in gas costs is too much to make the trip feasible.  

Maybe you should take a moment to realize that your personal circumstances don't apply to everyone.  Sometimes you really come off as a callous dude.

I'm not crying poor.  We don't make a lot of money but we're happy and we have everything we need, just not a lot of extra left over.

Does that answer your question or do you want me to post up our tax return???

[Spirited-6]

$3.74.9 in Nicholasville, Ky. 

[Jess Tolbirt]

he didnt say she was a teacher, he said and I quote "wife's job is tied to the school calendar so she doesn't work during the summer," so during the summer she dont get to work.
School buss drivers here are the same, they only get paid when they drive...

[alph]

Does that answer your question or do you want me to post up our tax return???

yeah, but can you produce a birth certificate!!!   

[Rams]

Sorry... I'd like to understand how such a minor expense in the reality of life stops you from going to Inzane

Might be different for some but, the price of gas and diesel affects everything else we do and don't do,  that cost over time adds up quite a bit.  I am reconsidering my summer plans just because of the cumlative affect the price of fuel is having on me as a whole, not just the fuel for the trip.

I figured you'd already know that.

[..]

Yep, I had a thought about riding to see the Pacific Ocean this summer but if the gas price continues to rise I'll be staying closer to hoome because tars, oil, food etc will also increase. My budgeting isn't done week by week but long term. As everyone should do.

If I can sell my KLR for a decent price I might still go west.

Ah well, life happens as you make plans.

[f6gal]

My wife and I are in the middle of a house remodel and are trying to adopt a child.  I budgeted for the trip at $4.00/gallon (because gas goes up in the summer) and it was pretty tight.  Now, it's just not doable.  

Everybody ride safe and I hope to meet y'all next year.

Scott

Hi Scott,
If you budgeted for $4.00/gallon, you'll actually come in under budget. 
At today's prices your average ppg is $3.63; even with a 10% increase you would be under $4.00 (3.99)

Average gas price in CA - 4.278
Average of the other states:  3.526
(AZ - 3.69; NM - 3.38; TX - 3.59; OK - 3.44; AR - 3.53)

Depending on where exactly you live, your total trip is 1590 miles
225 miles in CA:  14.15% @ 4.278 =  0.605
1365 not in CA:   85.85% @ 3.526 = 3.027
Average ppg for 100% of your trip = 3.632

So... See ya in Eureka Springs, right?? 

[f6gal]

Yep, I had a thought about riding to see the Pacific Ocean this summer but if the gas price continues to rise I'll be staying closer to hoome because tars, oil, food etc will also increase. My budgeting isn't done week by week but long term. As everyone should do.

If I can sell my KLR for a decent price I might still go west.

Ah well, life happens as you make plans.

Well cool... Eureka Springs is "closer to home" ... isn't it?
See ya there!!!

[old2soon]

I do actually understand having to BUDGET things.  If it were just me-no problemo. I also have my lovely daughter to condider. She wants to be in S. Carolina and Florida this summer with a friend. And i WILL do everything in my power to see that both of us get to where we want to be. msapers-you do what you have to do. I understand completely and you have nothing to explain to me. I look forward to sharing wind with you whenever we can get around to it. RIDE SAFE.

[fon1961]

Sorry... I'd like to understand how such a minor expense in the reality of life stops you from going to Inzane

just curious, you going?

[Bob E.]

I think SE's point is that, in the grand scheme of things, if gas goes up a dollar/gallon, how much expense does it really add to the overall trip?  I like math...so if it is 2000 miles from CA to Inzane (I really have no idea), each way...and the Valk gets about 33mpg...the total trip should be about 4000miles/33mpg=121 gallons.  Add in a few hundred miles while at IZ, and say maybe another 20-30 gallons.  So you are talking about 150 gallons of gas burned.  So at an extra $1 per gallon, you are talking an extra $150 to a trip that in total was going to cost a couple thousand anyway.  Does it suck to have to spend more on gas?  Absolutely!  But really, it's not that big of an increase to the overall cost of the trip.  Now, if you were planning on driving a truck getting 10mpg pulling a trailer...the cost increase will obviously be alot more.

[fon1961]

it is if you don't have an extra $150.  don't know or understand all of the circumstances but i'm going to respect the decision.  hopefully things will change for the better.

[Alien]

it is if you don't have an extra $150. 

Exactly.

[Alien]

My wife and I are in the middle of a house remodel and are trying to adopt a child.  I budgeted for the trip at $4.00/gallon (because gas goes up in the summer) and it was pretty tight.  Now, it's just not doable.  

Everybody ride safe and I hope to meet y'all next year.

Scott

Hi Scott,
If you budgeted for $4.00/gallon, you'll actually come in under budget. 
At today's prices your average ppg is $3.63; even with a 10% increase you would be under $4.00 (3.99)

Average gas price in CA - 4.278
Average of the other states:  3.526
(AZ - 3.69; NM - 3.38; TX - 3.59; OK - 3.44; AR - 3.53)

Depending on where exactly you live, your total trip is 1590 miles
225 miles in CA:  14.15% @ 4.278 =  0.605
1365 not in CA:   85.85% @ 3.526 = 3.027
Average ppg for 100% of your trip = 3.632

So... See ya in Eureka Springs, right?? 

I figure that other prices will rise with gas prices, (food lodging etc...), but if there is anything that I can pull out of my...well...if there's any way that I can go, I will.  Depends on what things look like closer to July.  I'm thinking that if gas is over $/gallon here now, it's only going to be higher in summer.  We'll see.

[Bob E.]

it is if you don't have an extra $150.  don't know or understand all of the circumstances but i'm going to respect the decision.  hopefully things will change for the better.

I respect and agree with the decision as well. On the other hand, if my budget was so tight that $150 was make or break, then I probably wouldn't have considered a trip costing a couple thousand dollars to begin with. So I actually commend him for making what sounds like what was probably the right (and more difficult) decision in the first place.  Actually, that is exactly the reason I'm not going...the cost of the trip and the use of my precious few vacation days that I'd rather spend with the rest of my family.  So I'm in the same boat, unfortunately.

[fon1961]

sometimes one straw just turns out to be the one that breaks the camel's back.  a threshold's got to be set somewhere.

i wish i could go to, there seems to be an awful lot of nice people on this site and i'd like to meet as many of them as i could in person.  it'd be nice to see all those valks in one place too.

[olddog1946]

Sorry... I'd like to understand how such a minor expense in the reality of life stops you from going to Inzane

Might be different for some but, the price of gas and diesel affects everything else we do and don't do,  that cost over time adds up quite a bit.  I am reconsidering my summer plans just because of the cumlative affect the price of fuel is having on me as a whole, not just the fuel for the trip.

I figured you'd already know that.

I agree whole heartedly...it ain't just more for gas...and do you honestly think gas won't hit 4 bucks a gallon in the midwest.....THINK AGAIN

[big d]

scott i truly hope you find the funds to make it this year, but if not i am sure everyone  will understand. i commend you and your wife  for wanting to adopt and wish you much luck in that endeavor. but just remember that having a little one will make future events that much more dificult to attend. so if at all possible please try and keep an open mind in trying to attend. it would be my pleasure to buy you and your wife a meal if we are fortunate to see you at inzane this year... just dont over extend yourself because some #$@^#$^ said you should..... good luck with your decision and hope to see you in the wind

[Cliff]

scott i truly hope you find the funds to make it this year, but if not i am sure everyone  will understand. i commend you and your wife  for wanting to adopt and wish you much luck in that endeavor. but just remember that having a little one will make future events that much more dificult to attend. so if at all possible please try and keep an open mind in trying to attend. it would be my pleasure to buy you and your wife a meal if we are fortunate to see you at inzane this year... just dont over extend yourself because some #$@^#$^ said you should..... good luck with your decision and hope to see you in the wind

Well said! 

[Stanley Steamer]

The cost of gas is one reason I probably won't be at Inzane.....it's about a 1,400 mile round trip for me, but an even bigger consideration is the amount of time I'd like to take off to do it right.....I could high tail it 700 miles in one day, but it'd take the fun out of it..... .....

I have to build my vacation time as I go along through the year....the Wife gets all her's up front and works backwards and usually ends up loosing some of hers from not taking it(I'd never let that happen to mine).......

I'd rather spread my time out to long weekends and hit a lot more "local" rides.....I am planning on the HillBilly ride....I'm going to take a long weekend and have time to mosey along and be able to "smell the roses"......

[Dougger]

I can respect that you are trying to plan but there is a liberal cancellation policy at inzane so why not just leave the reservation and put a circle around last cancel date in case your financial position does not improve between now and then

You must know someone. I canceled my room last year and was told it would be taken care of.... Never happened.
When I followed up, I was told no refund policy.... Good Luck

[fudgie]

I can understand that. I save for sturgis the day we get home. $20 here and there and throw tax returns in it along with work bonuses. July rolls around we are set. $100 a day is what we spend on ave.

[art]

Heck I don't blame him.I'm on a fixed budget SS+ a small pension an it will cost me a good $1000 to go from S.Or to Az. then S.Cal an back.That is a lot of money when almost half is for gas.The good old days are gone. When I was first starting to drive gas was $.16 a gallon

[3fan4life]

Sorry... I'd like to understand how such a minor expense in the reality of life stops you from going to Inzane

You apparently do not have the ability to understand someone's attempt to set a budget and stick to it ("Living within one's means").

And yet you would have us to believe that YOU are the ONLY one on this board that "Understands" what our government must do to fix the economy.   


MSAPERS obviously understands what  fiscal responsibility means.


YOU and MOST of our elected officials could learn something from his example.




AS A SIDE NOTE:

MSAPERS, I hope that it works out for you and that you can indeed make it to Inzane. If not "MOST" of us here do live in the real world and we do understand what it means to have to budget for something.

[musclehead]

Sorry... I'd like to understand how such a minor expense in the reality of life stops you from going to Inzane

I know everything is just GREAT (if all you do is listen to the mainstream so called media)

right now the reality in this country the economy isn't so hot. no matter what you've been told.

[musclehead]

Does that answer your question or do you want me to post up our tax return???

yeah, but can you produce a birth certificate!!!   

I can, but mines in German (not to worry I have the corresponding state dept document of a child born from american parents over seas)

[musclehead]

My wife and I are in the middle of a house remodel and are trying to adopt a child.  I budgeted for the trip at $4.00/gallon (because gas goes up in the summer) and it was pretty tight.  Now, it's just not doable.  

Everybody ride safe and I hope to meet y'all next year.

Scott

Hi Scott,
If you budgeted for $4.00/gallon, you'll actually come in under budget. 
At today's prices your average ppg is $3.63; even with a 10% increase you would be under $4.00 (3.99)

Average gas price in CA - 4.278
Average of the other states:  3.526
(AZ - 3.69; NM - 3.38; TX - 3.59; OK - 3.44; AR - 3.53)

Depending on where exactly you live, your total trip is 1590 miles
225 miles in CA:  14.15% @ 4.278 =  0.605
1365 not in CA:   85.85% @ 3.526 = 3.027
Average ppg for 100% of your trip = 3.632

So... See ya in Eureka Springs, right?? 

I figure that other prices will rise with gas prices, (food lodging etc...), but if there is anything that I can pull out of my...well...if there's any way that I can go, I will.  Depends on what things look like closer to July.  I'm thinking that if gas is over $/gallon here now, it's only going to be higher in summer.  We'll see.

everything goes up when fuel goes up (except growth in the economy) my fuel surcharge is now up to .46 cents per mile. that is tacked onto the base price of the commodity.

[Chattanooga Mark]

msapers,

     Sounds like you have much higher priorities than a motorcycle rally. I completely respect your descision to forgo Inzane and tend to much more important needs at home.

All the best to you,

Mark

[Gear Jammer]

There's nobody to whom you owe an explanation, and several that deserve none.... 

[moreira72]

The original post read that he budgeted for $4/ a gallon for the trip.

So if he has to travel 3000 miles round trip with an avg. of 30 mpg,
that would be 100 gallons. At $4/ a gallon would be $400 bucks in fuel for the trip.

If it went up to $5/ a gallon, it would only be an extra $100 bucks, and if his round trip is only 1,500 miles, then It's only an extra $50 bucks if the price went up by $1 a gallon.

My wife does not work in the summer also. So we put a little away during the year for summer vacation.

Don't see the big deal. IMHO

[Grumpy]

I do actually understand having to BUDGET things.  If it were just me-no problemo. I also have my lovely daughter to condider. She wants to be in S. Carolina and Florida this summer with a friend. And i WILL do everything in my power to see that both of us get to where we want to be. msapers-you do what you have to do. I understand completely and you have nothing to explain to me. I look forward to sharing wind with you whenever we can get around to it. RIDE SAFE.

Bring her to Inzane, I will ride her to Florida, and NO I am not a dirty old man, just old.