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Sheriff Joe Arpaio's special report on the investigation into Barack Obama's eligibility. They found it was forged and totally fake. It was verified by them and outside agencies. This is also the same with Obamas selective service card. its long but interesting. It is interesting the press has been totally silent on this issue regardless of validaty.This was conducted by police that would validate your certificate if yours was in question.
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I don't know if this is true or not... Just got it in an e-mail from a friend and haven't had a chance the verify. Interesting read at best for now...
Subj: SSN# 042-68-4425
Just who does it belong to!!! Jean Paul Luwig or Barack Hussein Obama SSN# 042-68-4425
WOW, read this, it's short - very interesting.
An intensive investigation has revealed the identity of the man whose Social Security Number (SSN) is being used by President Obama: Was Jean Paul Ludwig , who was born in France in 1890, immigrated to the United States in 1924, and was assigned SSN 042-68-4425 (Obama's current SSN) rec'd on or about March 1977.
Mr. Ludwig lived most of his adult life in Connecticut . Because of that, his SSN begins with the digits 042, which are among only a select few reserved for Connecticut residents.
Barack H. Obama never lived or worked in that state! Therefore, there is no reason on earth for his SSN to start with the digits 042. None whatsoever!
Now comes the best part!
J.P. Ludwig spent the final months of his life in Hawaii , where he died. Conveniently, Obama's grandmother, Madelyn Payne Dunham, worked part-time in the Probate Office in the Honolulu Hawaii Courthouse, and therefore had access to the SSNs of deceased individuals.
The Social Security Administration was never informed of Ludwig's death, and because he never received Social Security benefits there were no benefits to stop and therefore, no questions were ever raised.
The suspicion, of course, is that Dunham, knowing her grandson was not a U.S. Citizen, either because he was born in Kenya or became a citizen of Indonesia upon his adoption by Lolo Soetoro, simply scoured the probate records until she found someone who died who was not receiving Social Security benefits, and selected Mr. Ludwigs Connecticut SSN for Obama.
Just wait until Trump gets past the birth certificate and onto the issue of Barry O's use of a stolen SSN. You will see leftist heads exploding, because they will have no way of defending Obama. Although many Americans do not understand the meaning of the term "natural born" there are few who do not understand that if you are using someone else's SSN it is a clear indication of fraud.
Let's all get this information out to everybody on our mailing lists. If the voters of this great nation can succeed in bringing this lying, deceitful, cheating, corrupt, impostor to justice it will be the biggest and best news in decades for our country and the world.
"When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." Benjamin Franklin.
If you can just say "oh well; ho hum" after reading this you get what you deserve.
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His mom was enrolled in and attending school in Hawaii at the time of his birth. Pease drop this birther nonsense. There are many things Obama has done wrong but being born in the USA isn't one of them.
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Because it came by email from a trusted friend who got it from a trusted friend DOESN'T mean it' true Because it was read somewhere on the Internet by someone doesn't mean it's true Logical, rational people take a couple of minutes to determine if what they are reading is factual instead of reacting liek Chicken Little http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/ssn.aspYeah, yeah I know snopes is a far left wing conspiracy web site determined to cover up anything to do with PesBo (I AN NOT a fan of his). Please read my sig line to see if you fall into that category Does anyone HONESTLY believe if PresBo had a dodgy background BIll and Hillary would have let it slide???
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Because it came by email from a trusted friend who got it from a trusted friend DOESN'T mean it' true Because it was read somewhere on the Internet by someone doesn't mean it's true Logical, rational people take a couple of minutes to determine if what they are reading is factual instead of reacting liek Chicken Little http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/ssn.aspYeah, yeah I know snopes is a far left wing conspiracy web site determined to cover up anything to do with PesBo (I AN NOT a fan of his). Please read my sig line to see if you fall into that category Does anyone HONESTLY believe if PresBo had a dodgy background BIll and Hillary would have let it slide??? I've never really been a "birther;" however, I'm also not a big believer in coincidence. In the last paragraph of the Snopes article, they admit that BO's SSN is a CT number and attempt to dismiss the discrepancy. So, now I am curious... I've never met anyone whose SSN area number didn't match the state in which they lived at the time of issue (that couldn't be explained by other factors; such as military issue, different mailing address, etc.; none of which would apply to BO). Here's a link to area number distribution: http://www.usatrace.com/ssnchart.htmlDoes anyone here not match? Very curious, indeed.
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We all want to believe........or better stated want to NOT believe anyone could pull off what is being accused here. The fact of the matter is there is so much more corruption in our Government than we want to know about that this is very possible (Obama being installed even though he is not eligible). Voter fraud putting Obama in office is undeniable. The Birth Certificate problems are undeniable. the illegal interferrance with Governor elections accross the country are undeniable. The total disregard for the Constitution, Congress, and Laws of OUR country by this man are undeniable. His affilliation with organized crime, Anti American activism is undeniable, and many in Washington call his military policies treasonous. IMPEACH OBAMA http://floydreports.us1.list-manage1.com/subscribe?u=3668d6dcdf76634e54cc134ed&id=bd36de9aaa
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Because it came by email from a trusted friend who got it from a trusted friend DOESN'T mean it' true Because it was read somewhere on the Internet by someone doesn't mean it's true Logical, rational people take a couple of minutes to determine if what they are reading is factual instead of reacting liek Chicken Little http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/ssn.aspYeah, yeah I know snopes is a far left wing conspiracy web site determined to cover up anything to do with PesBo (I AN NOT a fan of his). Please read my sig line to see if you fall into that category Does anyone HONESTLY believe if PresBo had a dodgy background BIll and Hillary would have let it slide??? Ill take the friend of a friend of a friends word over Snopes.
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Give me a break, Sheriff Joe has walked around in that hot AZ sun too long and fried his brain.   Next he will offer proof from his "investigators" that the world is indeed "flat" despite rumors to the contrary.  And for you who are big followers of this charlatan, I've got some swampland in FL for sale. I think the bog will covert to gold if you stand in it long enough!  This is exactly the mindset the progressives want you to have. I would rather be with you on this, calling for the end of beating a dead horse, the problem is the horse isint dead and we need to keep beating it. Takes all points of view to bubble the truth up, I just choose to watch for the evidence instead of the emotion
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This is exactly the mindset the progressives want you to have.
Paranoia and goofy-ass conspiracy theories are exactly the mindset that regressives want YOU to have. And I got news for you; the progressives want the lunatic fringe to keep right on at it because the more you people buy into it the more it draws attention from real issues. While you tilt at windmills the real monster is stalking you. You're walking right into the trap. Turn your lance 180 degrees. YOUR OWN WORST ENEMIES...
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This is exactly the mindset the progressives want you to have.
Paranoia and goofy-ass conspiracy theories are exactly the mindset that regressives want YOU to have. And I got news for you; the progressives want the lunatic fringe to keep right on at it because the more you people buy into it the more it draws attention from real issues. While you tilt at windmills the real monster is stalking you. You're walking right into the trap. Turn your lance 180 degrees. YOUR OWN WORST ENEMIES... Oh no the day has come.  I agree with Anvil. Smoke and mirrors. What's happening behind the curtain. Don't become distracted. Fluke was offered up and the GOP jumped on it and made complete fools of themselves. Lush Windbag did the right a massive dis-service with his name calling.
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I am not really for anyone that they offer up as president I dont have a particular axe to grind with Obama either. I was hoping that there would be change for the better but I have not seen it yet. This issue is not about the politics but a fraud hoisted on us as Americans, if true. It really makes me kind of wonder when a sheriff investigates and finds fraud. This is not a conspiracy theory anymore it is a criminal matter, just the same as if you or me presented false documents. Heck we have to prove ss numbers why should the president not and on top of that spend so much money to prove he indeed is a American citizen. When you go to renew your drivers license be prepared to bring your life story or you dont get a license remember the National Id act. So the idea of birther derogatory slang is fast fading away in rhetoric of the time when fact seems to point the he indeed may not be qualified to be President. This has gone well beyond Snopes, they did not do a investigation nor are they impartial.
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This is exactly the mindset the progressives want you to have.
Paranoia and goofy-ass conspiracy theories are exactly the mindset that regressives want YOU to have. And I got news for you; the progressives want the lunatic fringe to keep right on at it because the more you people buy into it the more it draws attention from real issues. While you tilt at windmills the real monster is stalking you. You're walking right into the trap. Turn your lance 180 degrees. YOUR OWN WORST ENEMIES... No Anvil, it's not paranoia or goofy ass conspiracies theories. It's what the Constitution of the United States REQUIRES of a person to be eligible to BE the President of the United States. Obama is NOT a natural born citizen and thus is NOT eligible to be President. Dictator maybe.....but not President
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OK, I was tired of all the back and forth on this issue also, I decided to let it go, Hell, I figured if there was an issue, they wouold have found it by now RIGHT?
I just got this email, and although I have found that trusting emails can get you in trouble, but this one shows an alternative to the Democrats (Obama) answer. And to be honest, I am starting to think they may have something now. It sure SEEMS that when you put it all together, WE HAVE BEN DECEIVED.
I am posting the email below, but the photo's of the documentation will not show up, but they sure look convincing to me. But don't worry Eric Holder will investigate it and come up with the truth (sarcasm)
TRUE?
Obama's hidden birth certificate!
Now what, Supreme Court?
Widely circulated; challenge to Obama's birthplace and to US Citizenship.
Seems this is bound to arise [again] in the "political diatribe" of the coming year!
Whether we like it - believe it - or disbelieve it.
" Barack Hussein Obama II General Hospital , Mombasa , Kenya where Obama was born a few hours later at 7:21 pm on August 4, 1961(what a sad day for the USA !). Four days later his mother flew to Hawaii and registered his birth in Honolulu as a certificate of live birth which omitted the place and hospital of birth."
Now, what will happen?
Whom do you believe? If these documents are as authentic as they certainly seem to be, Obama is NOT qualified to be our President and he sits in the White House illegally!
This is what Obama has spent almost $2M (so far) to hide.
Here's a close-up of the top of the document where you can plainly read his name and his parents' names, etc....
A British history buff was asked if he could find out who the colonial registrar was for Mombasa in 1961.
After only a few minutes of research, he called back and said "Sir Edward F. Lavender. Note the same name near the bottom of the photo above.
Source(s): Kenya Dominion Record 4667 Australian library."
Here's a close-up of the bottom of the document where you can read "Coast Province of Kenya" and the official signature of the Deputy Registrar:
The above document is a "Certified Copy of Registration of Birth," but below is a copy of the actual Certificate of Birth - the real-deal legal kind of certificate.
The Mombasa Registrar of Births has testified that Obama's birth certificate from Coast Province General Hospital in Mombasa is genuine. This copy was obtained by Lucas Smith through the help of a Kenyan Colonel who recently got it directly from the Coast General Hospital in Mombasa , Kenya . Here it is:
Note the footprint!
The local Muslim Imam in Mombasa named Barack with his Muslim middle name Hussein so his official name on this certificate is Barack Hussein Obama II.
The grandmother of Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. reveals the story of his birth in Mombasa , Kenya , a seaport, after his mother suffered labor pains while swimming at ocean beach in Mombasa .
"On August 4, 1961 Obama's mother, father, and grandmother were attending a Muslim festival in Mombasa , Kenya .
His mother had been refused entry to airplanes due to her nine-month pregnancy. It was a hot August day at the festival so the Obamas went to the beach to cool off. While swimming in the ocean his mother experienced labor pains so was rushed to the Coast Provincial General Hospital, Mombasa, Kenya where Obama was born a few hours later at 7:21 pm on August 4, 1961.
Four days later his mother flew to Hawaii and registered his birth in Honolulu as a certificate of live birth which omitted the place and hospital of birth."
Letter from Kitau in Mombasa , Kenya : "I happen to be Kenyan. I was born 1 month before Obama at Mombasa medical center. I am a teacher here at the MM Shaw Primary School in Kenya . I compared my birth certificate to the one that has been put out by Taitz and mine is exactly the same. I even have the same registrar and format. The type is identical. I am by nature a skeptical person. I teach science here and challenge most things that cannot be proven. So I went to an official registrar today and pulled up the picture on the web. They magnified it and determined it to be authentic. There is even a plaque with Registrar Lavender's name on it as he was a Brit and was in charge of the Registrar office from 1959 until January of 1964. The reason the date on the certificate says republic of Kenya is that we were a republic when the "copy" of the original was ordered. I stress the word "copy." My copy also has republic of Kenya . So what you say is true about Kenya not being a republic at the time of Obama's birth, however it was a republic when the copy was ordered.
The birth certificate is genuine. It will be authenticated by a forensic auditor. We are very proud Obama was born here. We have a shrine for him and there are many people who remember his birth here as he had a white mother. They are being interviewed now by one of your media outlets.
Fortunately, they even have pictures of his parents with him immediately after his birth at the Mombasa hospital with the hospital in the background.
It will be a proud day for us when it is proven that he was born here and a Kenyan became the most powerful man in the world.
I encourage anyone to come here and visit. I will be happy to take you and show you the pictures at the hospital myself as well as my document and many others that are identical to what Taitz posted. God Bless. Kitau."
So, how much more proof do we need?
WELL, HERE IT IS:
Lolo Soetoro, Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro, baby Maya Soetoro, and 9-year-old Barry Soetoro.
This registration document, made available on Jan. 24, 2007, by the Fransiskus Assisi school in Jakarta, Indonesia , shows the registration of Barack Obama under the name Barry Soetoro made by his step-father, Lolo Soetoro.
Name: Barry Soetoro Religion: Islam Nationality: Indonesian
How did this little INDONESIAN Muslim child - Barry Soetoro, (A.K.A. Barack Obama) get around the issue of nationality to become President of the United States of America ?
PART 2: In a move certain to fuel the debate over Obama's qualifications for the presidency, the group "Americans for Freedom of Information" has released copies of President Obama's college transcripts from Occidental College .
The transcript indicates that Obama, under the name Barry Soetoro, received financial aid as a foreign student from Indonesia while an undergraduate at the school. The transcript was released by Occidental College in compliance with a court order in a suit brought by the group in the Superior Court of California. The transcript shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for financial aid and was awarded a fellowship for foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program.
To qualify for this scholarship, a student must claim foreign citizenship. This document provides the smoking gun that many of Obama's detractors have been seeking - that he is NOT a natural-born citizen of the United States - necessary to be President of these United States . Along with the evidence that he was first born in Kenya , here we see that there is no record of him ever applying for US citizenship.
Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation has released the results of their investigation of Obama's campaign spending. This study estimates that Obama has spent upwards of $950,000 in campaign funds in the past year with eleven law firms in 12 states for legal resources to block disclosure of any of his personal records.
Mr. Kreep indicated that the investigation is still on-going but that the final report will be provided to the U.S. attorney general, Eric Holder. Mr. Holder has refused comment on this matter.
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This is exactly the mindset the progressives want you to have.
Paranoia and goofy-ass conspiracy theories are exactly the mindset that regressives want YOU to have. And I got news for you; the progressives want the lunatic fringe to keep right on at it because the more you people buy into it the more it draws attention from real issues. While you tilt at windmills the real monster is stalking you. You're walking right into the trap. Turn your lance 180 degrees. YOUR OWN WORST ENEMIES... No Anvil, it's not paranoia or goofy ass conspiracies theories. It's what the Constitution of the United States REQUIRES of a person to be eligible to BE the President of the United States. Obama is NOT a natural born citizen and thus is NOT eligible to be President. Dictator maybe.....but not President You have absolutely NO concrete proof of that and neither did any of the other entities that wanted to prevent him from being POTUS. You're out of your tree, but please keep at it. It's very entertaining.
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Because it came by email from a trusted friend who got it from a trusted friend DOESN'T mean it' true Because it was read somewhere on the Internet by someone doesn't mean it's true Logical, rational people take a couple of minutes to determine if what they are reading is factual instead of reacting liek Chicken Little http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/ssn.aspYeah, yeah I know snopes is a far left wing conspiracy web site determined to cover up anything to do with PesBo (I AN NOT a fan of his). Please read my sig line to see if you fall into that category Does anyone HONESTLY believe if PresBo had a dodgy background BIll and Hillary would have let it slide??? I've never really been a "birther;" however, I'm also not a big believer in coincidence. In the last paragraph of the Snopes article, they admit that BO's SSN is a CT number and attempt to dismiss the discrepancy. So, now I am curious... I've never met anyone whose SSN area number didn't match the state in which they lived at the time of issue (that couldn't be explained by other factors; such as military issue, different mailing address, etc.; none of which would apply to BO). Here's a link to area number distribution: http://www.usatrace.com/ssnchart.htmlDoes anyone here not match? Very curious, indeed. Dang, I was gonna bring up the SSN/ location thing. Ya beat me to it!
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The same people who will tell you that the gubmint is incompetent are (many of them) now the same people who want others to believe that if the gubmint issued a CT SSN prefix then it MUST mean the SSN was stolen from a dead man because the gubmint doesn't screw up that kind of thing. Make up your minds people. You can't have it both ways, though you might like to.
Meanwhile, the fence riders will assume that if you're crazy enough to buy into the birther crap then the other guy (whatever Republican stiff they prop up there) getting the support of the lunatic fringe must be downright dangerous. You people are hand-delivering the election to the Dems.
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so a newborn commits fraud by using a SS# And he is guilty because?
U think HE picked the number and he found out when?
Aint it possible he believes he was born here??
For the record, I dont think O is qualified, dont think he was born here, dont believe anything he says
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I dont believe a whole lot that anyone on the political world says
we are all paying the piper and thats the way it is
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So when is the cabal going to tell him that Satan is his father and that he's been groomed since birth to foster evil by killing Osama bin Laden?
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so a newborn commits fraud by using a SS# And he is guilty because?
U think HE picked the number and he found out when?
Aint it possible he believes he was born here??
For the record, I dont think O is qualified, dont think he was born here, dont believe anything he says
But then again
I dont believe a whole lot that anyone on the political world says
we are all paying the piper and thats the way it is
YMMV
Lets come up with answers and stop throwing mud. The People are entitled to Answers
Super Oss, I think a post rescue is in order.
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Because it came by email from a trusted friend who got it from a trusted friend DOESN'T mean it' true Because it was read somewhere on the Internet by someone doesn't mean it's true Logical, rational people take a couple of minutes to determine if what they are reading is factual instead of reacting liek Chicken Little http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/ssn.aspYeah, yeah I know snopes is a far left wing conspiracy web site determined to cover up anything to do with PesBo (I AN NOT a fan of his). Please read my sig line to see if you fall into that category Does anyone HONESTLY believe if PresBo had a dodgy background BIll and Hillary would have let it slide??? I've never really been a "birther;" however, I'm also not a big believer in coincidence. In the last paragraph of the Snopes article, they admit that BO's SSN is a CT number and attempt to dismiss the discrepancy. So, now I am curious... I've never met anyone whose SSN area number didn't match the state in which they lived at the time of issue (that couldn't be explained by other factors; such as military issue, different mailing address, etc.; none of which would apply to BO). Here's a link to area number distribution: http://www.usatrace.com/ssnchart.htmlDoes anyone here not match? Very curious, indeed. 2 questions 040-049 does that mean only those 2 # or is it 040 thru 049 Why has not the Republican party not been on this If Daffy Duck ends up running against Ob I will vote for Daffy fricken Duck 
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Because it came by email from a trusted friend who got it from a trusted friend DOESN'T mean it' true Because it was read somewhere on the Internet by someone doesn't mean it's true Logical, rational people take a couple of minutes to determine if what they are reading is factual instead of reacting liek Chicken Little http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/ssn.aspYeah, yeah I know snopes is a far left wing conspiracy web site determined to cover up anything to do with PesBo (I AN NOT a fan of his). Please read my sig line to see if you fall into that category Does anyone HONESTLY believe if PresBo had a dodgy background BIll and Hillary would have let it slide??? I've never really been a "birther;" however, I'm also not a big believer in coincidence. In the last paragraph of the Snopes article, they admit that BO's SSN is a CT number and attempt to dismiss the discrepancy. So, now I am curious... I've never met anyone whose SSN area number didn't match the state in which they lived at the time of issue (that couldn't be explained by other factors; such as military issue, different mailing address, etc.; none of which would apply to BO). Here's a link to area number distribution: http://www.usatrace.com/ssnchart.htmlDoes anyone here not match? Very curious, indeed. 2 questions 040-049 does that mean only those 2 # or is it 040 thru 049 Why has not the Republican party not been on this If Daffy Duck ends up running against Ob I will vote for Daffy fricken Duck  040 through 049. I rather see Donald Duck than Daffy though.
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« Reply #28 on: March 13, 2012, 10:56:45 PM » |
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Because it came by email from a trusted friend who got it from a trusted friend DOESN'T mean it' true Because it was read somewhere on the Internet by someone doesn't mean it's true Logical, rational people take a couple of minutes to determine if what they are reading is factual instead of reacting liek Chicken Little http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/ssn.aspYeah, yeah I know snopes is a far left wing conspiracy web site determined to cover up anything to do with PesBo (I AN NOT a fan of his). Please read my sig line to see if you fall into that category Does anyone HONESTLY believe if PresBo had a dodgy background BIll and Hillary would have let it slide??? I've never really been a "birther;" however, I'm also not a big believer in coincidence. In the last paragraph of the Snopes article, they admit that BO's SSN is a CT number and attempt to dismiss the discrepancy. So, now I am curious... I've never met anyone whose SSN area number didn't match the state in which they lived at the time of issue (that couldn't be explained by other factors; such as military issue, different mailing address, etc.; none of which would apply to BO). Here's a link to area number distribution: http://www.usatrace.com/ssnchart.htmlDoes anyone here not match? Very curious, indeed. 2 questions 040-049 does that mean only those 2 # or is it 040 thru 049 Why has not the Republican party not been on this If Daffy Duck ends up running against Ob I will vote for Daffy fricken Duck  040 through 049. I rather see Donald Duck than Daffy though. I may be missing something here, are you saying his ss# is or is not ct.?
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« Reply #29 on: March 13, 2012, 11:19:52 PM » |
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Because it came by email from a trusted friend who got it from a trusted friend DOESN'T mean it' true Because it was read somewhere on the Internet by someone doesn't mean it's true Logical, rational people take a couple of minutes to determine if what they are reading is factual instead of reacting liek Chicken Little http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/ssn.aspYeah, yeah I know snopes is a far left wing conspiracy web site determined to cover up anything to do with PesBo (I AN NOT a fan of his). Please read my sig line to see if you fall into that category Does anyone HONESTLY believe if PresBo had a dodgy background BIll and Hillary would have let it slide??? I've never really been a "birther;" however, I'm also not a big believer in coincidence. In the last paragraph of the Snopes article, they admit that BO's SSN is a CT number and attempt to dismiss the discrepancy. So, now I am curious... I've never met anyone whose SSN area number didn't match the state in which they lived at the time of issue (that couldn't be explained by other factors; such as military issue, different mailing address, etc.; none of which would apply to BO). Here's a link to area number distribution: http://www.usatrace.com/ssnchart.htmlDoes anyone here not match? Very curious, indeed. 2 questions 040-049 does that mean only those 2 # or is it 040 thru 049 Why has not the Republican party not been on this If Daffy Duck ends up running against Ob I will vote for Daffy fricken Duck  040 through 049. I rather see Donald Duck than Daffy though. I may be missing something here, are you saying his ss# is or is not ct.? According to the Snopes article, the SSN begins with 042... a CT number area. However, at the time it was issued BO was 15 or 16 y/o and attending school in Hawaii. He had no current or previous connection to CT.
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« Reply #30 on: March 14, 2012, 04:40:23 AM » |
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Here are some truths: Obama is President Obama was born in The USA Osama Bin Laden is Dead GM is Alive
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« Reply #31 on: March 14, 2012, 04:51:38 AM » |
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My SS# starts with 048... I was born in Ct... And I never saw Obama there... 
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« Reply #32 on: March 14, 2012, 05:46:29 AM » |
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Wayne, just because people believe differently than you doesn't make them stupid.
However, I think that we should focus on the things that we KNOW Obama has misled or lied about. There are plenty of those. Actions speak louder than words.
Obviously, the above sentence is for others, not you Wayne. You're entitled to your opinion just as I am entitled to mine.
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YOUR OWN WORST ENEMY.  the majority of folks on here are more keen on holding Obama accountable for; high gas prices obama care the economy a jobless recovery/now jobs without a recovery the ever expanding government bureaucracy closing coal fired electric plants pushing green energy that has nearly bankrupted Spain solyndra QE1, QE2 and the inflation associated with it there is more, lots more 
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« Reply #36 on: March 14, 2012, 02:37:22 PM » |
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YOUR OWN WORST ENEMY.  the majority of folks on here are more keen on holding Obama accountable for; Sure they do. Then why is this still coming up? high gas prices The President is not responsible for this.obama care You mean "Nationalized Romneycare". Because that's what it is. And again, this is what happens when you ignore a problem.the economy Already in the toilet when he took over for the last guy (a Republican). If you want to say that this administration has failed to turn it around then fine. But I certainly don't think McCain's policy of total war with everyone all the time was gonna do it either.a jobless recovery/now jobs without a recovery Which is actually a reaction to his administration by corporate entities. Again, not directly Obama's doing.the ever expanding government buracracy You're right, we need Bush II and his shrinking government back.closing coal fired electric plants A legit beef there.pushing green energy that has nearly bankrupted Spain Also legit.solyndra Legit.QE1, QE2 and the inflation associated with it Inflation has been out of control for decades.there is more, lots more Ironically, you forget the best ones.
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« Reply #37 on: March 14, 2012, 03:04:03 PM » |
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I think you need to reread most posts in this thread, most of us are sooo far beyond a simple piece of paper. gas prices, recent polling from CBS and the Gallup put you in the minority. most folks blame the president for the high gas prices. 56% from CBS and a weltering 65% from Gallup. probably they believe this from the never ending onslaught the press brought against Bush Cheney. your in your own little world on this topic but at least they know you there  Obama care, let's throw 85% of people under the bus to insure 15%  besides that it's not about the uninsured people it's about POWER and expanding government. 150+ NEW agencies? wake up bro the economy, yep still Bush's fault. check! the jobs/jobless recovery, still think that all the corporations all over the country are colluding to make this pres look ineffective? wait.... what??
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« Reply #38 on: March 14, 2012, 03:09:39 PM » |
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Let's put it to a vote.
November sound OK to everyone?
I think it's going to be a close one.
Romney will win in the end.
Obama can go out and buy his little white chevy Volt then,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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« Reply #39 on: March 14, 2012, 03:54:35 PM » |
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I think you need to reread most posts in this thread, most of us are sooo far beyond a simple piece of paper. But again, why does this stuff keep coming up?gas prices, recent polling from CBS and the Gallup put you in the minority. I'm fine with being in the minority when the minority is correct.most folks blame the president for the high gas prices. 56% from CBS and a weltering 65% from Gallup. probably they believe this from the never ending onslaught the press brought against Bush Cheney. your in your own little world on this topic but at least they know you there Oh well, if "most folks" think so.  Obama care, let's throw 85% of people under the bus to insure 15%  besides that it's not about the uninsured people it's about POWER and expanding government. 150+ NEW agencies? wake up bro I didn't actually say that I liked nationalized Romneycare, did I? What I said was that this is what happens when you ignore a problem. Someone else will come along and "fix" it but it may not be to your liking. The Republicans had their shot and didn't take it. So what would have been YOUR plan to fix it? We know what the Republican front runner's plan would have been! 
BTW, throwing around percentages of insured vs. uninsured is very easy to do but misses a big part of the argument which includes the under-insured and problems with the types of coverage available that lead to people losing their homes due to catastrophic illness. As with almost everything in life the argument is not as simple as X value Vs. Y value but simple people have trouble seeing beyond the most simple parts of the argument. SOMETHING had to be done. Is it exactly as I might have done it? No. But I give someone points for taking on the issue instead of burying their heads in the sand and expecting it to evaporate.the economy, yep still Bush's fault. check! Why is it so hard to fathom that a horrendous President's policies can have far-reaching effects? It's a fact; we were chugging along pretty well with Clinton and and then Bush II came along. Now, much like Bush I, Bush II inherited some fallout from economic policies and a market sector that was not designed for sustained growth. Like Obama, Bush II made a lot of wrong moves in trying to correct for them.
The point here is that Obama is in a long line of Presidents (both Democrat and Republican) who have screwed the pooch on this one. People cry as though everything were just fine under the last guy and Obama screwed it all up. That is so NOT the case.the jobs/jobless recovery, still think that all the corporations all over the country are colluding to make this pres look ineffective? wait.... what?? Do you think they're above it? For that matter, collusion isn't even required and it's not even necessarily out of spite. But it's happening. That's another fact. So explain it for me. WHY is the jobless recovery happening if that is not the reason?
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