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Author Topic: Beware The Left Turning Cage(CAR,TRUCK,YOU GET THE IDEA)  (Read 1051 times)
BigAl
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« on: March 16, 2012, 06:19:24 AM »

A left turning cage, will kill you or hurt you as quickly as lightning, .005 seconds and you are dead.

Please take care and don't trust that idiot with a coffee, cell phone, Big Mac, or anybody else that has that dreaded

left turn sgnal on.

They are your worst enemy.

Worse than drunks on the road, because more of the left turners are on the road than drunks.


Check out the turn signal beeping sound, that would save a lot of non-harley brand bikers, Harley is self cancelling.

I have seen metric bikes with signal on for more miles than I care to mention. That is alomost as dangerous as the left turn cage.


This video is a good example of what happens everyday.

Near motorcycle crash from left turn vehicle.mp4powered by Aeva

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DirtyDan
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« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2012, 06:35:10 AM »

amen Al

they tought me that in motorcycle school. number one cause of motorcycle colisions is another vechile making a left.

so do the right thing  Smiley

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old2soon
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« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2012, 07:08:41 AM »

Long time ago my father taught me to never ever under ANY circumstances believe a turn indicator on any vehicle.  uglystupid2 And to this very day and beyond-i don't. Roll Eyes And he also taught me to make sure i cleared my turn indicators after use. cooldude Another thing i have lived with and by for a lot of years-try to figure out what is the stupidest dumbest most idiotic thing anyone around me can or will do. crazy2 And i'm usually not dissapointed-my fellow drivers/riders do keep things interesting out there. Wink Did not mean to hijack the thread. Cool RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2012, 07:33:39 AM »

did you also notice that the speed limit was 35.  the biker started at 55-60.
after the almost he slowed down to 40-45.
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solo1
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« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2012, 08:17:00 AM »

The biker's traveling too fast for conditions and trusted those cages.  The left turner didn't see him because of the car on the biker's left in the left turning lane.  That biker's still here because of the fast reflexes of the cage driver.

Looking at the video, probably he should have slowed down at intersections and stayed in the far RIGHT lane until he was ready to turn left.  Distance from the cages and visibility buys you time,

Harry Hurt once said, if someone turns left in front of you, it's your fault.  Might be true in some circumstances.  High speed mind reading might help but then again.
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bigguy
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« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2012, 08:33:06 AM »

Harry Hurt once said, if someone turns left in front of you, it's your fault.  Might be true in some circumstances.  High speed mind reading might help but then again.

I don't pipe up too often on these discussions because that's pretty much how I feel. I've yet to personally witness, or even see video of a crash where the biker couldn't have been operating more safely. Note: I didn't say not at fault. But I'm reminded of my high school drivers ed instructor saying that being DEAD right was small consolation.
If I'm honest, every close call or scrape I've had, there was good component of my not paying enough attention or just riding like a numbskull. Like somebody else said, I never trust the blinkers on another vehicle. I'll believe you're turning when I see the wheels cut over. I assume every car in position to do so will turn in front of me. I also assume that every cager pulling up behind me at a signal light isn't going to stop. I try to always have an escape route picked out. And the biggest thing of all, is simply LEAVE ENOUGH ROOM BETWEEN YOU AND THE VEHICLE AHEAD OF YOU. Almost nobody does that.
Having said all of that, I have caught myself zoning out, tailgating, getting frustrated, and generally not riding safely. I try to stay conscious of it and improve. If I ever do get creamed, even if the other driver is clearly at fault, there's a better than even chance that I could have done something to prevented it.
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Jess from VA
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« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2012, 08:35:52 AM »

You bet Wayne, that guy belonged in the right lane for most of that video.  If an oncoming guy popped a left, he'd have more time to react.  Half the world thinks constant speed lane travel is OK
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« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2012, 08:36:52 AM »

Also make sure YOU do a mirror check before YOU turn left. No matter what you are driving/riding.
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« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2012, 08:38:59 AM »

The rider in the video also slammed on the rear brake and nearly wrecked himself.

Front brake is your friend.

http://www.webbikeworld.com/Motorcycle-Safety/braking-tips.htm

On a road like that with a solid median I'd be tempted to hold the left lane keeping me away from others entering the roadway on my right.

Not at the video riders speed though.
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« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2012, 09:02:50 AM »

I have had close call several times like that. I find best is to ride on right side lane (2 lane) they can see motorcycle side than the left side lane they will think it's car headlight by look like it's far. I stopped riding on left side lane but I hate to ride on right side lane tho. If there's three lane then go in middle of lane but move on right side in middle lane.
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solo1
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« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2012, 10:10:14 AM »

Cages merging on your right are traveling the same direction (hopefully) and approximate speed as you are. That should give you more time.

The left lane couldv'e sprouted left turners going the same direction as the rider, changing their minds and pulling back to the right (the biker's lane).  TOO MUCH TRUST( or stupidity) on the biker's part
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