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« on: March 28, 2012, 06:50:03 AM »

http://www.wftv.com/news/news/trayvon-martin-case-gov-scott-appoint-task-force-r/nLbJy/
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« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2012, 09:21:17 AM »

Media sure has made a feeding frenzy out of this one.....
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« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2012, 10:10:44 AM »

And in other news, Spike Lee, Moron Extraordinaire, tweeted the address of Zimmerman.  Yeah, except it was the address of an elderly couple who had nothing to do with the case.  They were forced from their house to a hotel in fear of their safety.
My opinion?  One of their sons should have shown up at the house with an AR-15 and showed them what "stand your ground" really means to the mob.

And another thing:  I really really really think the media is intentionally fanning the flames to induce riots.  Riots make good news, which make good ratings, which makes good $$$ for the networks.
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« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2012, 10:20:17 AM »

And in other news, Spike Lee, Moron Extraordinaire, tweeted the address of Zimmerman.  Yeah, except it was the address of an elderly couple who had nothing to do with the case.  They were forced from their house to a hotel in fear of their safety.
My opinion?  One of their sons should have shown up at the house with an AR-15 and showed them what "stand your ground" really means to the mob.

And another thing:  I really really really think the media is intentionally fanning the flames to induce riots.  Riots make good news, which make good ratings, which makes good $$$ for the networks.


And diverts the population from what else is going on. Not that the masses don't have enough distraction with Final Four and other crap on TV.
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« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2012, 11:49:39 AM »

And in other news, Spike Lee, Moron Extraordinaire, tweeted the address of Zimmerman.  Yeah, except it was the address of an elderly couple who had nothing to do with the case.  They were forced from their house to a hotel in fear of their safety.
My opinion?  One of their sons should have shown up at the house with an AR-15 and showed them what "stand your ground" really means to the mob.

And another thing:  I really really really think the media is intentionally fanning the flames to induce riots.  Riots make good news, which make good ratings, which makes good $$$ for the networks.


There is not a doubt about it. Somebody finally printed a current picture of the kid who was shot too. They were publicly and immediately accused of racism. Wonder why the media likes the pic of him as little kid better?
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« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2012, 11:52:28 AM »

And in other news, Spike Lee, Moron Extraordinaire, tweeted the address of Zimmerman.  Yeah, except it was the address of an elderly couple who had nothing to do with the case.  They were forced from their house to a hotel in fear of their safety.
My opinion?  One of their sons should have shown up at the house with an AR-15 and showed them what "stand your ground" really means to the mob.

And another thing:  I really really really think the media is intentionally fanning the flames to induce riots.  Riots make good news, which make good ratings, which makes good $$$ for the networks.


http://blog.chron.com/hottopics/2012/03/spike-lee-retweets-wrong-george-zimmerman%E2%80%99s-address/

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« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2012, 12:22:11 PM »

This is another instance of divide and conquer. All the prizes are given out in November.
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« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2012, 12:57:46 PM »

Paranoia is just a heightened sense of awareness…
However, the fact that you are paranoid does not mean they are not out there lookin’ for you.  ???

I rather believe in everything until it's disproved. So I believe in fairies, the myths, dragons…
It all exists, even if it's in your mind.  Cheesy Undecided police
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« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2012, 02:06:20 PM »

Paranoia is just a heightened sense of awareness…
However, the fact that you are paranoid does not mean they are not out there lookin’ for you.  ???

I rather believe in everything until it's disproved. So I believe in fairies, the myths, dragons…
It all exists, even if it's in your mind.  Cheesy Undecided police
Who's to say that dreams and nightmares aren't as real as the here and now?  Wink

"I am out of my mind, but I'll be right back."





With people stirring the pot like Al, Jesse, and the New Black Panthers and the media feeding on every word, I can say we have a ligitimate concern, not paranoia! The NBP already said they ARE the military and they are not citizens of this country and want their own country. So even without Trayvon, I think we have concern! BTW, isn't it against the law to put a $10,000 bounty on the guy's head?  I see you're in S. Cal., LA? If you're old enough you should know all about riots and idiots burning down and looting their own town! tickedoff
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« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2012, 02:23:50 PM »

Paranoia is just a heightened sense of awareness…
However, the fact that you are paranoid does not mean they are not out there lookin’ for you.  ???

I rather believe in everything until it's disproved. So I believe in fairies, the myths, dragons…
It all exists, even if it's in your mind.  Cheesy Undecided police
Who's to say that dreams and nightmares aren't as real as the here and now?  Wink

"I am out of my mind, but I'll be right back."





With people stirring the pot like Al, Jesse, and the New Black Panthers and the media feeding on every word, I can say we have a ligitimate concern, not paranoia! The NBP already said they ARE the military and they are not citizens of this country and want their own country. So even without Trayvon, I think we have concern! BTW, isn't it against the law to put a $10,000 bounty on the guy's head?  I see you're in S. Cal., LA? If you're old enough you should know all about riots and idiots burning down and looting their own town! tickedoff
I agree Big T.......This government we have here isint afraid to take radical steps and when someone calls them out they get attacked for being racist or paranoid or an extremist.

Because of the mere possibility of this great law (stand your ground and the Fl castle law) being repealed Judy and I have made an appointment with the Agg department to get our CCW for the first time. 
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« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2012, 02:45:22 PM »

Paranoia is just a heightened sense of awareness…
However, the fact that you are paranoid does not mean they are not out there lookin’ for you.  ???

I rather believe in everything until it's disproved. So I believe in fairies, the myths, dragons…
It all exists, even if it's in your mind.  Cheesy Undecided police
Who's to say that dreams and nightmares aren't as real as the here and now?  Wink

"I am out of my mind, but I'll be right back."





With people stirring the pot like Al, Jesse, and the New Black Panthers and the media feeding on every word, I can say we have a ligitimate concern, not paranoia! The NBP already said they ARE the military and they are not citizens of this country and want their own country. So even without Trayvon, I think we have concern! BTW, isn't it against the law to put a $10,000 bounty on the guy's head?  I see you're in S. Cal., LA? If you're old enough you should know all about riots and idiots burning down and looting their own town! tickedoff
I agree Big T.......This government we have here isint afraid to take radical steps and when someone calls them out they get attacked for being racist or paranoid or an extremist.

Because of the mere possibility of this great law (stand your ground and the Fl castle law) being repealed Judy and I have made an appointment with the Agg department to get our CCW for the first time. 

Chris, I would do it ASAP bc I'm sure you're not the only one thinking that,, I know I would be. They already are crying to repeal the SYG law here since that happened in Florida.

It's amazing how people percieve racism. When I first hear that word- I think Black Panthers, AL Sharton, and Old Jesse!  Grin
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« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2012, 08:36:05 PM »

Hello folks;
I love you too...  Undecided You might want to read my post again. As Mitt Romney would say, "I mispoke!"  Roll Eyes
I'm just sayin... I do slightly sense general paranoia about defending ourselves with guns and ammo when "they" start coming after us."  tickedoff
Humm... it might be just me reading into it. But, it does seem to compete with Valkyries as a prevalent theme in our discussions.  But then again, what do I know. 2funny

Notwithstanding, whether you individually are motivated by paranoia, by racism, by the impending end of the status Quo... or by killin' before been killed,
I would not judge your motivations.  Lips Sealed You have the right to be pissed at whatever is it that pisses you... Wink tickedoff whether Obama, your mother in law or
the dude that just cut you off while on his cell phone.

In truth, even if you are not  paranoid... death's still coming after you...   ???

Yes, I live in a dangerous city. I have experienced two armed hold ups, six stolen cars, two home burglaries; and a major beating since 1974.   Shocked Embarrassed
Yet, I have never felt the need to arm myself. I take life as it comes. I am aware of my mortality.  Cry

Indeed, life is a dangerous business. You can croak w/o warning or you can predictably choke on a chicken bone. Angry Cry
If death by a chicken bone, I wonder how embarrassing the content of  ones eulogy would be.  Embarrassed

As you are reading, this moment evolves towards everyone's slow decomposition process, then you die.  Angry
DEATH is for sure the ultimate expression of (pun intended), "standing your ground." She is the ultimate equalizer.   Grin crazy2

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« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2012, 09:05:08 PM »


In truth, even if you are not  paranoid... death's still coming after you...   ???

Yes, I live in a dangerous city. I have experienced two armed hold ups, six stolen cars, two home burglaries; and a major beating since 1974.   Shocked Embarrassed
Yet, I have never felt the need to arm myself. I take life as it comes. I am aware of my mortality.  Cry

Indeed, life is a dangerous business. You can croak w/o warning or you can predictably choke on a chicken bone. Angry Cry
If death by a chicken bone, I wonder how embarrassing the content of  ones eulogy would be.  Embarrassed

As you are reading, this moment evolves towards everyone's slow decomposition process, then you die.  Angry
DEATH is for sure the ultimate expression of (pun intended), "standing your ground." She is the ultimate equalizer.   Grin crazy2

RIDE SAFE BUT DAMN IT, RIDE!

“Every time I start thinking the world is all bad
I begin to see people out there havin' a good time on a motorcycle,
and it makes me take another look.”

Steve McQueen



Well said, and very true. Life is precarious and temporary.
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« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2012, 03:25:29 AM »

Hello folks;
I love you too...  Undecided You might want to read my post again. As Mitt Romney would say, "I mispoke!"  Roll Eyes
I'm just sayin... I do slightly sense general paranoia about defending ourselves with guns and ammo when "they" start coming after us."  tickedoff
Humm... it might be just me reading into it. But, it does seem to compete with Valkyries as a prevalent theme in our discussions.  But then again, what do I know. 2funny

Notwithstanding, whether you individually are motivated by paranoia, by racism, by the impending end of the status Quo... or by killin' before been killed,
I would not judge your motivations.  Lips Sealed You have the right to be pissed at whatever is it that pisses you... Wink tickedoff whether Obama, your mother in law or
the dude that just cut you off while on his cell phone.

In truth, even if you are not  paranoid... death's still coming after you...    ???

Yes, I live in a dangerous city. I have experienced two armed hold ups, six stolen cars, two home burglaries; and a major beating since 1974.   Shocked EmbarrassedYet, I have never felt the need to arm myself. I take life as it comes. I am aware of my mortality.  Cry

Indeed, life is a dangerous business. You can croak w/o warning or you can predictably choke on a chicken bone. Angry Cry
If death by a chicken bone, I wonder how embarrassing the content of  ones eulogy would be.  Embarrassed

As you are reading, this moment evolves towards everyone's slow decomposition process, then you die.  Angry
DEATH is for sure the ultimate expression of (pun intended), "standing your ground." She is the ultimate equalizer.   Grin crazy2

RIDE SAFE BUT DAMN IT, RIDE!

“Every time I start thinking the world is all bad
I begin to see people out there havin' a good time on a motorcycle,
and it makes me take another look.”

Steve McQueen



Very well written! Yes I am concerned about the impending end of the status Quo since that affects me.  coolsmiley

Yes I know death is coming after  me, I just don't want to speed it up! 2funny  But I'm not afraid to die either bc I  know where I'm headed!  Wink cooldude

You must really love LA to endure beatings, armed robbery, car theft (6) -home burglaries!!  Undecided

Wouldn't that pun be "laying your ground"? They won't allow us to stand! 2funny 2funny

Pretty funny about the chicken bone, that would be embarassing ...if you knew about it!! 2funny crazy2

About Valkyries, Yes I'm thinking about riding down on my VALKYRIE to Sanford to get a handle on what's going on! 2funny  cooldude
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« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2012, 06:50:03 AM »

BIG--T;
You are right about L. A. It's like Baghdad without the enthusiasm!  Roll Eyes Lips Sealed
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« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2012, 07:00:54 AM »

BIG--T;
You are right about L. A. It's like Baghdad without the enthusiasm!  Roll Eyes Lips Sealed

It wasn't bad when i worked out there for a while. It was pretty laid back I thought, but then again that was just a few months.
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« Reply #16 on: March 29, 2012, 07:05:32 AM »


In truth, even if you are not  paranoid... death's still coming after you...   ???

Yes, I live in a dangerous city. I have experienced two armed hold ups, six stolen cars, two home burglaries; and a major beating since 1974.   Shocked Embarrassed
Yet, I have never felt the need to arm myself. I take life as it comes. I am aware of my mortality.  Cry

Indeed, life is a dangerous business. You can croak w/o warning or you can predictably choke on a chicken bone. Angry Cry
If death by a chicken bone, I wonder how embarrassing the content of  ones eulogy would be.  Embarrassed

As you are reading, this moment evolves towards everyone's slow decomposition process, then you die.  Angry
DEATH is for sure the ultimate expression of (pun intended), "standing your ground." She is the ultimate equalizer.   Grin crazy2

RIDE SAFE BUT DAMN IT, RIDE!

“Every time I start thinking the world is all bad
I begin to see people out there havin' a good time on a motorcycle,
and it makes me take another look.”

Steve McQueen



Well said, and very true. Life is precarious and temporary.

Indeed. University studies show that 100% of life ends in death.
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« Reply #17 on: March 29, 2012, 07:09:45 AM »


In truth, even if you are not  paranoid... death's still coming after you...   ???

Yes, I live in a dangerous city. I have experienced two armed hold ups, six stolen cars, two home burglaries; and a major beating since 1974.   Shocked Embarrassed
Yet, I have never felt the need to arm myself. I take life as it comes. I am aware of my mortality.  Cry

Indeed, life is a dangerous business. You can croak w/o warning or you can predictably choke on a chicken bone. Angry Cry
If death by a chicken bone, I wonder how embarrassing the content of  ones eulogy would be.  Embarrassed

As you are reading, this moment evolves towards everyone's slow decomposition process, then you die.  Angry
DEATH is for sure the ultimate expression of (pun intended), "standing your ground." She is the ultimate equalizer.   Grin crazy2

RIDE SAFE BUT DAMN IT, RIDE!

“Every time I start thinking the world is all bad
I begin to see people out there havin' a good time on a motorcycle,
and it makes me take another look.”

Steve McQueen



Well said, and very true. Life is precarious and temporary.

Indeed. University studies show that 100% of life ends in death.

Do tell!!  2funny 2funny 2funny
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« Reply #18 on: March 29, 2012, 05:12:26 PM »


 When I first hear that word- I think Black Panthers, AL Sharton, and Old Jesse!  Grin

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« Reply #19 on: March 29, 2012, 05:13:32 PM »

If it is repealed, you still have a right to defend yourself. Just make sure you have no means of egress.  crazy2
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« Reply #20 on: March 29, 2012, 05:35:05 PM »

BIG--T;
You are right about L. A. It's like Baghdad without the enthusiasm!  Roll Eyes Lips Sealed

if u put "mexico" license plates on your vehicle u can break any traffic law u want. LA law enforcement stated a wk ago in the news that they will not waste thier time pulling them over and giving tickets, since there is no way to enforce payment of the tickets.
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« Reply #21 on: March 29, 2012, 06:02:05 PM »

BIG--T;
You are right about L. A. It's like Baghdad without the enthusiasm!  Roll Eyes Lips Sealed

if u put "mexico" license plates on your vehicle u can break any traffic law u want. LA law enforcement stated a wk ago in the news that they will not waste thier time pulling them over and giving tickets, since there is no way to enforce payment of the tickets.

Now that right there is one sad commentary! Ummm, now  isn't that racism?? They know if they can make it back to their border, they don't have to answer to murder much less a traffic ticket!  tickedoff
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« Reply #22 on: March 29, 2012, 07:40:45 PM »

QUOTE FROM CA:
"... if u put "mexico" license plates on your vehicle u can break any traffic law u want..."
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As a "person of color," I am not one to see racism in everything. Lips Sealed Whenever directed at me, I choose to "be big about it"
and gloss over it within reason, of course.  Lips Sealed That's not to say that it does not embarrass me.  Embarrassed

When you consider it; he / she who hates experiences much pain.
Hatred of any kind, for any "reason" is not good for the heart, neither for the spirit. Especially if one can't get over it.  Angry

It is though work developing tolerance for ambiguity; and tolerance for events that invade our comfort zone. But, it can be achieved.  Wink
That is the nature of change. Whether one resists it, change will happen and "old ideas" loose relevance.
Some would be left behind, myself included. ???

One trick to deal with emotional issues, is taking control of events before the event takes control of your emotions.  Angry
He who screams and/or begins the name calling, generally looses the argument. Lips Sealed

As Vince Lombardi once said, "...It is not whether you win or loose, it's how you look playing the game."  

Notwithstanding the above, every time I go out, w/o fail I do brake some traffic law. Yes, I've been ticketed a lot. police
However, since am supposed to be a Socialist, I gladly pay the fines for the good of society. angel

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« Reply #23 on: March 30, 2012, 05:08:50 AM »

QUOTE FROM CA:
"... if u put "mexico" license plates on your vehicle u can break any traffic law u want..."
========================================================

As a "person of color," I am not one to see racism in everything. Lips Sealed Whenever directed at me, I choose to "be big about it"
and gloss over it within reason, of course.  Lips Sealed That's not to say that it does not embarrass me.  Embarrassed

When you consider it; he / she who hates experiences much pain.
Hatred of any kind, for any "reason" is not good for the heart, neither for the spirit. Especially if one can't get over it.  Angry

It is though work developing tolerance for ambiguity; and tolerance for events that invade our comfort zone. But, it can be achieved.  Wink
That is the nature of change. Whether one resists it, change will happen and "old ideas" loose relevance.
Some would be left behind, myself included. ???

One trick to deal with emotional issues, is taking control of events before the event takes control of your emotions.  Angry
He who screams and/or begins the name calling, generally looses the argument. Lips Sealed

As Vince Lombardi once said, "...It is not whether you win or loose, it's how you look playing the game."  

Notwithstanding the above, every time I go out, w/o fail I do brake some traffic law. Yes, I've been ticketed a lot. police
However, since am supposed to be a Socialist, I gladly pay the fines for the good of society. angel

RIDE HARD - RIDE SAFE

Very well said. No believe it or not I am not a racist as probably some may think. You are correct, one can not harbor hatred or it will eat away like a cancer.

I just want justice for all and no more. If Zimmerman killed someone in cold blood, he needs to punished to the fullest. But he does need a trial by jury, not AL, Jesse, and the NBP calling for his head and being both judge and executioner. Yes those people are racist, like the KKK on the flip side which brings me to another point- if the KKK just made their presence known, much less putting a ONE MILLION dollar bounty on the guys head, it would be another Waco, Ruby Ridge, etc!

Bottom line is I'm just tired of seeing a double standard for anyone. About traffic tickets, who doesn't get them? I've been lucky so far but am not gonna brag!  Lol! Grin
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