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« on: March 28, 2012, 10:04:26 AM »

I offered to do the rear wheel spacer mod for someone from this board but due to some other inquiries about the machining I will have to charge a small amount to cover my time on the machine.I know most machine shops charge a min.of $65-$100 an hour an that is a lot for such a simple job.I'm thinking $15 plus shipping which I think is a really good price.Art
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« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2012, 10:28:12 AM »

I would have to agree with you Art..... Even though you offered to do it for me for free there is compensation for your time and the return shipping in the box that I sent out today. I had a machine shop tell me they would grind it down ( not machine it ) for $20 and take 2 weeks. Should have heard the Machined down price. I think your price is well worth it. Thank you again my friend and always ride safe.

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« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2012, 11:48:03 AM »

Yes they would grind it down by hand any idiot can do that .It needs to be done in a lathe or a surface grinder.It can be done by hand by an experanced machinist an come out real good but it will take an hour or so to get it within a few .001
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« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2012, 06:44:56 PM »

Art,
In the e-mail I sent you this morning I stated I was going to add something for your time and shipping. I was going to put a $20 bill in with the spacer. Would that be enough?

Thanks,
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« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2012, 08:22:16 PM »

Art,

     On my next parts order I'll get a new spacer to send to you. That way when I need a new rear tire I'll already have the double bearing and the spacer ready and waiting.

Thank You!

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« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2012, 10:19:41 PM »

Yes they would grind it down by hand any idiot can do that .It needs to be done in a lathe or a surface grinder.It can be done by hand by an experanced machinist an come out real good but it will take an hour or so to get it within a few .001
I turn them also, but it requires a collet to hold them square, not enough area to clamp in a chuck and get them true. If they are not true and parallel it will put an angled load on the bearing, and cause it to fail sooner.
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« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2012, 11:41:30 AM »

Your right I have a small enough chuck an do use a indicator before machining.I check with a mic for size not a plastic caliper
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« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2012, 05:03:49 PM »

Yes they would grind it down by hand any idiot can do that .It needs to be done in a lathe or a surface grinder.It can be done by hand by an experanced machinist an come out real good but it will take an hour or so to get it within a few .001
I turn them also, but it requires a collet to hold them square, not enough area to clamp in a chuck and get them true. If they are not true and parallel it will put an angled load on the bearing, and cause it to fail sooner.
Bill if you have one ready to go I'd like to buy it . If not let me know when its ready  cooldude  I've had two of my bikes done already but the dude that did the machine work has fallen ill and his business is closed and I've got ( 1 ) Valk still needing the mod.
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« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2012, 07:06:46 PM »

Yes they would grind it down by hand any idiot can do that .It needs to be done in a lathe or a surface grinder.It can be done by hand by an experanced machinist an come out real good but it will take an hour or so to get it within a few .001
I turn them also, but it requires a collet to hold them square, not enough area to clamp in a chuck and get them true. If they are not true and parallel it will put an angled load on the bearing, and cause it to fail sooner.
Bill if you have one ready to go I'd like to buy it . If not let me know when its ready  cooldude  I've had two of my bikes done already but the dude that did the machine work has fallen ill and his business is closed and I've got ( 1 ) Valk still needing the mod.
I will have some this coming monday, I will shoot an email then.
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« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2012, 07:28:47 PM »

Yes they would grind it down by hand any idiot can do that .It needs to be done in a lathe or a surface grinder.It can be done by hand by an experanced machinist an come out real good but it will take an hour or so to get it within a few .001
I turn them also, but it requires a collet to hold them square, not enough area to clamp in a chuck and get them true. If they are not true and parallel it will put an angled load on the bearing, and cause it to fail sooner.
Bill if you have one ready to go I'd like to buy it . If not let me know when its ready  cooldude  I've had two of my bikes done already but the dude that did the machine work has fallen ill and his business is closed and I've got ( 1 ) Valk still needing the mod.
I will have some this coming monday, I will shoot an email then.
Good deal please put my name on one  cooldude
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« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2012, 12:28:47 PM »

Yes they would grind it down by hand any idiot can do that .It needs to be done in a lathe or a surface grinder.It can be done by hand by an experanced machinist an come out real good but it will take an hour or so to get it within a few .001
I turn them also, but it requires a collet to hold them square, not enough area to clamp in a chuck and get them true. If they are not true and parallel it will put an angled load on the bearing, and cause it to fail sooner.
Bill if you have one ready to go I'd like to buy it . If not let me know when its ready  cooldude  I've had two of my bikes done already but the dude that did the machine work has fallen ill and his business is closed and I've got ( 1 ) Valk still needing the mod.
Joe, got tired of waiting on Honda, started machining the spacers from scratch. These are cut for the double row bearing, length is .615.   If you still need one, let me know.
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« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2012, 05:11:31 PM »

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These are cut for the double row bearing, length is .615.

Looks beautiful, Grumpy, but I need some clarification.  I thought I remembered that they were supposed to be .625" (.885" original dimension - .260"). 
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« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2012, 06:45:20 PM »

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These are cut for the double row bearing, length is .615.

Looks beautiful, Grumpy, but I need some clarification.  I thought I remembered that they were supposed to be .625" (.885" original dimension - .260"). 
I have been doing them at 615 for a while, allows for the shield if installed. But work fine without it. I have done 20 or so bikes so far with out any problems.
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« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2012, 06:52:55 PM »

Grumpy, are you turning them out of carbon steel or stainless?
Just curious,
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« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2012, 09:05:53 PM »

They are carbon steel, one of the high strength alloys.
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« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2012, 09:15:44 PM »

They are carbon steel, one of the high strength alloys.

Grumpy, how much are you selling them for?  I'd love to have one available when the time comes for me to do the dbl bearing mod.  -Greg
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« Reply #16 on: April 06, 2012, 10:32:43 PM »

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These are cut for the double row bearing, length is .615.

Looks beautiful, Grumpy, but I need some clarification.  I thought I remembered that they were supposed to be .625" (.885" original dimension - .260"). 
I have been doing them at 615 for a while, allows for the shield if installed. But work fine without it. I have done 20 or so bikes so far with out any problems.
What shield are you talking about?The only one I've seen was on the bearing.Am I missing something?
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« Reply #17 on: April 06, 2012, 10:42:57 PM »

They are carbon steel, one of the high strength alloys.

Grumpy, how much are you selling them for?  I'd love to have one available when the time comes for me to do the dbl bearing mod.  -Greg


I too, would be interested on one of those. Just lost a bearing a couple of weeks ago, and installed an all balls bearing, which I don't want to leave in there too long.
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« Reply #18 on: April 07, 2012, 12:54:37 AM »

Let me on this band wagon, I need one also. cooldude
Really been wanting to swap out my rear bearings for a while now. I already purchased the bearings and seals to replace front and rear have been sitting back waiting to get the courage to ask someone to make one of these for me. angel

So Grumpy Smiley,,, Please inform the uninformed. How much and prefered payment method and any other important info we need to know.


Or have I over stepped the vendor agreements allowed on this board? Embarrassed
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« Reply #19 on: April 07, 2012, 05:42:20 AM »

What shield are you talking about?The only one I've seen was on the bearing.Am I missing something?

http://www2.nilos-ring.de/default.aspx/G/111327/L/1033/R/-1/T/122934/A/2/ID/122939



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« Reply #20 on: April 07, 2012, 07:59:25 AM »

Ok I like it ,that will work good.Thanks
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« Reply #21 on: April 07, 2012, 01:03:44 PM »

They are carbon steel, one of the high strength alloys.


Grumpy, how much are you selling them for?  I'd love to have one available when the time comes for me to do the dbl bearing mod.  -Greg

Don't want to tick off Willow, the prices etc are listed on my Web page, go to the web store and look on the bottom of the page.    http://grumpyscustomparts.com/
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« Reply #22 on: April 07, 2012, 09:38:58 PM »



 Don't want to tick off Willow, the prices etc are listed on my Web page, go to the web store and look on the bottom of the page.    http://grumpyscustomparts.com/


Completly understood,,, Thanks. Will be placing order later this week.
Oh yes, very affordable.
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« Reply #23 on: April 08, 2012, 06:21:59 AM »

Yesterday my bushing came back from Art. He did an awesome job. If the bearings are sealed why would we need to use this other shield? All I see here is another place that would trap water. Sounds like another subject thread.
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« Reply #24 on: April 08, 2012, 07:40:31 AM »

They are carbon steel, one of the high strength alloys.

Thanks Grumpy.  I was thinking I might get ambitious one day and turn me some in case I decide to go that route.  I've got a bunch of 4130 stock and was debating that vs stainless.
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« Reply #25 on: April 08, 2012, 07:52:59 AM »

Grumpy

Was that your bike that was vandalized at TPA?  If so what happened to the vandals?

I fly out/in of TPA weekly as I work at airports across the US.

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« Reply #26 on: April 09, 2012, 05:24:26 AM »

Grumpy

Was that your bike that was vandalized at TPA?  If so what happened to the vandals?

I fly out/in of TPA weekly as I work at airports across the US.

Gil
Yep sure was, they caught them. Used tapes from security cameras to identify them. To me they got a slap on the wrist, 6 months jail time and 1 year probation. Supposed to make financial restitution but have not seen any thing done on that. They trashed 5 cars the same day, jumping on roofs and hoods, caving them in.

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« Reply #27 on: April 09, 2012, 05:31:08 AM »

Don't know if it would be worth your time, but I'd contact the probation dept (1-yr probation) (find the specific PO assigned to these guys) and ask about the "ordered" restitution.  If you make a satisfactory contact, send him a short letter (or email) with your detailed restoration expenses (maybe pics).
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« Reply #28 on: April 09, 2012, 09:28:18 AM »

Don't want to tick off Willow, the prices etc are listed on my Web page, go to the web store and look on the bottom of the page.    http://grumpyscustomparts.com/


Don't worry about ticking off the staff, Bill.  You're a paying advertiser and entitled to discuss your products.  Most especially you are entitled to answer any questions asked concerning your products.

Thank you, Grumpy, for your support for the VRCC and the rest of you, do some business with this man.   cooldude
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« Reply #29 on: April 09, 2012, 01:50:18 PM »

received my spacer today.  about one hour after i sent out a check! super high quality workmanship! thanks again. Tank
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« Reply #30 on: April 10, 2012, 01:08:22 PM »

Yes they would grind it down by hand any idiot can do that .It needs to be done in a lathe or a surface grinder.It can be done by hand by an experanced machinist an come out real good but it will take an hour or so to get it within a few .001
I turn them also, but it requires a collet to hold them square, not enough area to clamp in a chuck and get them true. If they are not true and parallel it will put an angled load on the bearing, and cause it to fail sooner.
Bill if you have one ready to go I'd like to buy it . If not let me know when its ready  cooldude  I've had two of my bikes done already but the dude that did the machine work has fallen ill and his business is closed and I've got ( 1 ) Valk still needing the mod.
Joe, got tired of waiting on Honda, started machining the spacers from scratch. These are cut for the double row bearing, length is .615.   If you still need one, let me know.
Bill I mailed out the payment this morning....Thank you  cooldude
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