Obama's 2nd Budget to fail at getting a single vote. Now THAT's leadership!

[G-Man]

Just saying......... 

[The Anvil]

Meanwhile the GOP passes a budget in the house that they know will fail in the senate in effect wasting time just to make a point. No THAT'S leadership.

Just saying... 

[GotValk]

Way to go!, Politics  just saying

[..]

House Democrats and Republicans united in their opposition to President Obama's 2013 budget, which failed with 414 votes against and zero in favor of the budget.
 
Such opposites as Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., and Rep. Michelle Bachmann joined each other in voting against the bill.

Both sides united. Who'da thought it.

[registbass]

Wish I got paid to sit on my hands and whine ! - hundreds of thousands of dollars ! oh yeah ... I forgot I'm just a dummasss !

[Trynt]

Meanwhile the GOP passes a budget in the house that they know will fail in the senate in effect wasting time just to make a point. No THAT'S leadership.

Just saying... 

And what was the purpose of Obama's budget?

[The Anvil]

Meanwhile the GOP passes a budget in the house that they know will fail in the senate in effect wasting time just to make a point. No THAT'S leadership.

Just saying... 

And what was the purpose of Obama's budget?

You're missing the point which is; they both suck.

[musclehead]

Meanwhile the GOP passes a budget in the house that they know will fail in the senate in effect wasting time just to make a point. No THAT'S leadership.

Just saying... 

anyone ask yet who your voting for in Nov? just saying 

[musclehead]

House Democrats and Republicans united in their opposition to President Obama's 2013 budget, which failed with 414 votes against and zero in favor of the budget.
 
Such opposites as Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., and Rep. Michelle Bachmann joined each other in voting against the bill.

Both sides united. Who'da thought it.

Obama is building concensus!    that's two budgets and zero votes. now he will start campaigning on the "do nothing" congress.

[registbass]

 I think Obama will win again, and nothing will happen for 4 more years with the republicans sitting on their hands and everyone will play the blame game . I would vote for Dr. Ron Paul if he gets on the indiana ticket . Otherwise I'll vote against the republicans again .  They ( politicians ) are all losers and are screwing us left and right . but hey , who cares ? I got my i-phone and facebook . and all the credit $ can buy

[Trynt]

Meanwhile the GOP passes a budget in the house that they know will fail in the senate in effect wasting time just to make a point. No THAT'S leadership.

Just saying... 

And what was the purpose of Obama's budget?

You're missing the point which is; they both suck.

Well, since he couldn't even get his own side to vote for it, I submit Obama's budget sucked more.

[GotValk]

 I got this e-mail a couple of days ago, I think it makes sense to me. This is why nothing gets done!
 

 Charley  Reese's final column for the Orlando Sentinel...
He has  been a journalist for 49 years.
He is retiring and this is  HIS LAST COLUMN.

Be sure to read the Tax List at the  end.

This is about as clear and easy to understand as  it can be. The article below is completely neutral, neither  anti-republican or democrat. Charlie Reese, a retired reporter  for the Orlando Sentinel, has hit the nail directly on the  head, defining clearly who it is that in the final analysis  must assume responsibility for the judgments made that impact  each one of us every day. It's a short but good read. Worth  the time. Worth remembering!

545 vs. 300,000,000  People
-By Charlie Reese

Politicians are the  only people in the world who create problems and then campaign  against them.

Have you ever wondered, if both the  Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, WHY do we  have deficits?

Have you ever wondered, if all the  politicians are against inflation and high taxes, WHY do we  have inflation and high taxes?

You and I don't propose  a federal budget. The President does.

You and I don't  have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations.  The House of Representatives does.

You and I don't  write the tax code, Congress does.

You and I don't set  fiscal policy, Congress does.

You and I don't control  monetary policy, the Federal Reserve Bank does.

One  hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one President, and nine  Supreme Court justices equates to 545 human beings out of the  300 million are directly, legally, morally, and individually  responsible for the domestic problems that plague this  country.

I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve  Board because that problem was created by the Congress. In  1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a  sound currency to a federally chartered, but private, central  bank.

I excluded all the special interests and  lobbyists for a sound reason. They have no legal authority.  They have no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman, or a  President to do one cotton-picking thing. I don't care if they  offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash. The politician  has the power to accept or reject it. No matter what the  lobbyist promises, it is the legislator's responsibility to  determine how he votes.

Those 545 human beings spend  much of their energy convincing you that what they did is not  their fault. They cooperate in this common con regardless of  party.

What separates a politician from a normal human  being is an excessive amount of gall. No normal human being  would have the gall of a Speaker, who stood up and criticized  the President for creating deficits. The President can only  propose a budget. He cannot force the Congress to accept  it.

The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the  land, gives sole responsibility to the House of  Representatives for originating and approving appropriations  and taxes. Who is the speaker of the House? John Boehner. He  is the leader of the majority party. He and fellow House  members, not the President, can approve any budget they want.  If the President vetoes it, they can pass it over his veto if  they agree to.

It seems inconceivable to me that a  nation of 300 million cannot replace 545 people who stand  convicted -- by present facts -- of incompetence and  irresponsibility. I can't think of a single domestic problem  that is not traceable directly to those 545 people. When you  fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise the power  of the federal government, then it must follow that what  exists is what they want to exist.

If the tax code is  unfair, it's because they want it unfair.

If the budget  is in the red, it's because they want it in the red.

If  the Army & Marines are in Iraq and Afghanistan it's  because they want them in Iraq and Afghanistan ...

If  they do not receive social security but are on an elite  retirement plan not available to the people, it's because they  want it that way.

There are no insoluble government  problems.

Do not let these 545 people shift the blame  to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can  abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can reject;  to regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and  from whom they can take this power. Above all, do not let them  con you into the belief that there exists disembodied mystical  forces like "the economy," "inflation," or "politics" that  prevent them from doing what they take an oath to  do.

Those 545 people, and they alone, are  responsible.

They, and they alone, have the  power.

They, and they alone, should be held accountable  by the people who are their bosses.

Provided the voters  have the gumption to manage their own employees...

We  should vote all of them out of office and clean up their  mess!

Charlie Reese is a  former columnist of the Orlando Sentinel  Newspaper.

What you do with this article now  that you have read it... is up to you.
This might be  funny if it weren't so true.

I hope this goes around THE  USA at least 545 times!!! YOU can help it get  there!!!

GO AHEAD. . . BE AN  AMERICAN!!!

[musclehead]

I think Obama will win again, and nothing will happen for 4 more years with the republicans sitting on their hands and everyone will play the blame game . I would vote for Dr. Ron Paul if he gets on the indiana ticket . Otherwise I'll vote against the republicans again .  They ( politicians ) are all losers and are screwing us left and right . but hey , who cares ? I got my i-phone and facebook . and all the credit $ can buy

what has Obama given you that you want 4 more years of?  just curious.

[Moonshot_1]

Problem with the logic is that it was the 300 million people that sent the 546 (-SCOTUS) to DC.

We send to DC (a fantasy universe if there ever was one) a government with the most acute Bi-Polar disorder they can have and expect things to get done?

The problem is us.

[The Anvil]

I think Obama will win again, and nothing will happen for 4 more years with the republicans sitting on their hands and everyone will play the blame game . I would vote for Dr. Ron Paul if he gets on the indiana ticket . Otherwise I'll vote against the republicans again .  They ( politicians ) are all losers and are screwing us left and right . but hey , who cares ? I got my i-phone and facebook . and all the credit $ can buy

what has Obama given you that you want 4 more years of?  just curious.

In my case not a whole Hell of a lot. But don't you think it's a fair question to ask if the bozos who are running against him can make it better? I have no confidence that they can and despite what some people tell you it CAN get worse.

Also, knowing what we now know about John MCCain it's quite possible that we could be involved in another full-scale conflict.

[musclehead]

I think Obama will win again, and nothing will happen for 4 more years with the republicans sitting on their hands and everyone will play the blame game . I would vote for Dr. Ron Paul if he gets on the indiana ticket . Otherwise I'll vote against the republicans again .  They ( politicians ) are all losers and are screwing us left and right . but hey , who cares ? I got my i-phone and facebook . and all the credit $ can buy

what has Obama given you that you want 4 more years of?  just curious.

In my case not a whole Hell of a lot. But don't you think it's a fair question to ask if the bozos who are running against him can make it better? I have no confidence that they can and despite what some people tell you it CAN get worse.

Also, knowing what we now know about John MCCain it's quite possible that we could be involved in another full-scale conflict.

aww hell bro, you could put me in charge I'd make it better. we're not talking rocket science here.

take an average of what Calvin Coolidge did and sprinkle in some Reagen, and Viola'!  5% GDP 

[alph]

mean while, america sinks deeper into debt with communist china, intrest continues to errode our freedom, and our leaders main concern is getting re-elected.......  just saying.......

[Doc809]

A quote from the movie "Hunt for Red October".  Son, I am a politician which means I am a cheat and a liar.  If I'm not kissin babies, I'm stealing their lollipops!"  More true words have never been spoken.

[G-Man]

Problem with the logic is that it was the 300 million people that sent the 546 (-SCOTUS) to DC.

We send to DC (a fantasy universe if there ever was one) a government with the most acute Bi-Polar disorder they can have and expect things to get done?

The problem is us.

And we don't even expect them to have any experience in the job their elected to do!   This is what kills me the most.  In order to get a $100,000 job in the private sector you have to demonstrate years of experience and ability to do the job your are applying for.  In this country, some well liked schmuck with time on their hands can run for office.  And that's all fine and good and the way it should be, but he should have, and we should expect, some experience.

This nutty country elected a man to run the ship who had a whole 2 years of experience as a junior senator and before that, had virtually no experience in running anything.  I don't think the people that voted for him really expected him to do anything anyway.  How could they? What would they have based any expectations on?

[Jess from VA]

I don't think the people that voted for him really expected him to do anything anyway.  How could they? What would they have based any expectations on?

Why, the special Cool Aid of course.

[musclehead]

Problem with the logic is that it was the 300 million people that sent the 546 (-SCOTUS) to DC.

We send to DC (a fantasy universe if there ever was one) a government with the most acute Bi-Polar disorder they can have and expect things to get done?

The problem is us.

And we don't even expect them to have any experience in the job their elected to do!   This is what kills me the most.  In order to get a $100,000 job in the private sector you have to demonstrate years of experience and ability to do the job your are applying for.  In this country, some well liked schmuck with time on their hands can run for office.  And that's all fine and good and the way it should be, but he should have, and we should expect, some experience.

This nutty country elected a man to run the ship who had a whole 2 years of experience as a junior senator and before that, had virtually no experience in running anything.  I don't think the people that voted for him really expected him to do anything anyway.  How could they? What would they have based any expectations on?

as bad as that is he surrounded himself with inexperience as well. 8% of the administration has ANY first hand knowledge of the private sector.

[registbass]

honestly all I could ask, is that on a professional level, is that all politicians would go do their job at their appointed task , work together for the common good of the people , and not let their personal vendetta get in the way of our country s best interest. i dont agree with alot of the things that happen at the company I work for , but I still do my job to the best of my ability regardless of the guy that I have to answer to . even though I may not agree with his way of doing things .  I didnt agree with the democrats walking out and not voting on things in Indiana this yr. just because they didnt like it . (like the right to work law ) but never the less they did .And it didnt change a thing . It still passed. Big Deal. they should have bucked up and did their job, just like the national level should. other countries are laughing at the bickering in this country and the sour grapes . we all look like a bunch of jackasses for pointing fingers and saying "your Fault !" George Bush was an Idiot , but we all pulled together for the common good  for 9-11. even though we got misguided and pushed into Iraq. we suck ! thats the truth ! now you can pull out your pie graph and statistics and tell me how wrong I am .. go for it, you deserve it !

[Novavalker]

http://www.usdebtclock.org/
You guys better start thinking about this come November or else your kids future looks bleak.
You need to take a hatchet to government spending before its too late.

Just saying

[The Anvil]

Problem with the logic is that it was the 300 million people that sent the 546 (-SCOTUS) to DC.

We send to DC (a fantasy universe if there ever was one) a government with the most acute Bi-Polar disorder they can have and expect things to get done?

The problem is us.

And we don't even expect them to have any experience in the job their elected to do!   This is what kills me the most.  In order to get a $100,000 job in the private sector you have to demonstrate years of experience and ability to do the job your are applying for.  In this country, some well liked schmuck with time on their hands can run for office.  And that's all fine and good and the way it should be, but he should have, and we should expect, some experience.

This nutty country elected a man to run the ship who had a whole 2 years of experience as a junior senator and before that, had virtually no experience in running anything.  I don't think the people that voted for him really expected him to do anything anyway.  How could they? What would they have based any expectations on?

as bad as that is he surrounded himself with inexperience as well. 8% of the administration has ANY first hand knowledge of the private sector.

That's actually the WORST part of it. Even the most dopey of elected officials can be effective with the right support staff. With the wrong support staff it just magnifies an elected official's flaws. Just look at Bush II. With the exception of Condi Rice (and later Robert Gates) the people he surrounded himself with were all incompetents. Rumsfeld, Cheney, Ashcroft etc...

I've never thought Bush II was a smart man (because he's not) but I think that at his core he's a good man who really wanted to do the right thing. But when you surround yourself with powerful personalities that you put a lot of trust in and those personalities are either malevolent (Cheney) or clueless (Ashcroft) then you set yourself up for disaster. Obama did himself no favors by appointing the people he did. Though maybe he did exactly that for a reason.

Although he did make one very smart move; keeping Robert Gates. The last thing the military needed at that point was a change in direction or philosophy.

[musclehead]

Problem with the logic is that it was the 300 million people that sent the 546 (-SCOTUS) to DC.

We send to DC (a fantasy universe if there ever was one) a government with the most acute Bi-Polar disorder they can have and expect things to get done?

The problem is us.

And we don't even expect them to have any experience in the job their elected to do!   This is what kills me the most.  In order to get a $100,000 job in the private sector you have to demonstrate years of experience and ability to do the job your are applying for.  In this country, some well liked schmuck with time on their hands can run for office.  And that's all fine and good and the way it should be, but he should have, and we should expect, some experience.

This nutty country elected a man to run the ship who had a whole 2 years of experience as a junior senator and before that, had virtually no experience in running anything.  I don't think the people that voted for him really expected him to do anything anyway.  How could they? What would they have based any expectations on?

as bad as that is he surrounded himself with inexperience as well. 8% of the administration has ANY first hand knowledge of the private sector.

That's actually the WORST part of it. Even the most dopey of elected officials can be effective with the right support staff. With the wrong support staff it just magnifies an elected official's flaws. Just look at Bush II. With the exception of Condi Rice (and later Robert Gates) the people he surrounded himself with were all incompetents. Rumsfeld, Cheney, Ashcroft etc...

I've never thought Bush II was a smart man (because he's not) but I think that at his core he's a good man who really wanted to do the right thing. But when you surround yourself with powerful personalities that you put a lot of trust in and those personalities are either malevolent (Cheney) or clueless (Ashcroft) then you set yourself up for disaster. Obama did himself no favors by appointing the people he did. Though maybe he did exactly that for a reason.

Although he did make one very smart move; keeping Robert Gates. The last thing the military needed at that point was a change in direction or philosophy.

I think you forgot Paulson in that mix. Cheney is evil because of haliburton?  news flash Obama ended up giving some hotly contested contract to haliburton anyway, because they were the best company for it.

and what about the FEMA dude? what was his name? that guy was a bozo without the clown nose.

[The Anvil]

Problem with the logic is that it was the 300 million people that sent the 546 (-SCOTUS) to DC.

We send to DC (a fantasy universe if there ever was one) a government with the most acute Bi-Polar disorder they can have and expect things to get done?

The problem is us.

And we don't even expect them to have any experience in the job their elected to do!   This is what kills me the most.  In order to get a $100,000 job in the private sector you have to demonstrate years of experience and ability to do the job your are applying for.  In this country, some well liked schmuck with time on their hands can run for office.  And that's all fine and good and the way it should be, but he should have, and we should expect, some experience.

This nutty country elected a man to run the ship who had a whole 2 years of experience as a junior senator and before that, had virtually no experience in running anything.  I don't think the people that voted for him really expected him to do anything anyway.  How could they? What would they have based any expectations on?

as bad as that is he surrounded himself with inexperience as well. 8% of the administration has ANY first hand knowledge of the private sector.

That's actually the WORST part of it. Even the most dopey of elected officials can be effective with the right support staff. With the wrong support staff it just magnifies an elected official's flaws. Just look at Bush II. With the exception of Condi Rice (and later Robert Gates) the people he surrounded himself with were all incompetents. Rumsfeld, Cheney, Ashcroft etc...

I've never thought Bush II was a smart man (because he's not) but I think that at his core he's a good man who really wanted to do the right thing. But when you surround yourself with powerful personalities that you put a lot of trust in and those personalities are either malevolent (Cheney) or clueless (Ashcroft) then you set yourself up for disaster. Obama did himself no favors by appointing the people he did. Though maybe he did exactly that for a reason.

Although he did make one very smart move; keeping Robert Gates. The last thing the military needed at that point was a change in direction or philosophy.

I think you forgot Paulson in that mix.

I didn't so much as forget him as just not have the room to list all of them.

Cheney is evil because of haliburton?  news flash Obama ended up giving some hotly contested contract to haliburton anyway, because they were the best company for it.

No, not specifically because of Halliburton (though his connection was suspect) but for a number of reasons.

Did you know that Blackwater (now doing business as Academi) was recently awarded a major contract under Obama's watch? Like Halliburton they're just the best equipped to do the job.

Whether the US should be using mercenaries AT ALL is a separate argument.

and what about the FEMA dude? what was his name? that guy was a bozo without the clown nose.

"You're doin' a heck of a job Brownie!" 

That reminds me of an episode of 30Rock where Jack Donaghy leaves NBC for a job in Washington in some interior agency. Ferris Bueller plays the guy he works for.

Scooter Burger: Oh we can't do that now, we have a meeting to go to!
Jack Donaghy: Well I just got here, I'm not prepared for a meeting.
Scooter Burger: I'm not drunk either but I think we'll manage.

[musclehead]

Problem with the logic is that it was the 300 million people that sent the 546 (-SCOTUS) to DC.

We send to DC (a fantasy universe if there ever was one) a government with the most acute Bi-Polar disorder they can have and expect things to get done?

The problem is us.

And we don't even expect them to have any experience in the job their elected to do!   This is what kills me the most.  In order to get a $100,000 job in the private sector you have to demonstrate years of experience and ability to do the job your are applying for.  In this country, some well liked schmuck with time on their hands can run for office.  And that's all fine and good and the way it should be, but he should have, and we should expect, some experience.

This nutty country elected a man to run the ship who had a whole 2 years of experience as a junior senator and before that, had virtually no experience in running anything.  I don't think the people that voted for him really expected him to do anything anyway.  How could they? What would they have based any expectations on?

as bad as that is he surrounded himself with inexperience as well. 8% of the administration has ANY first hand knowledge of the private sector.

That's actually the WORST part of it. Even the most dopey of elected officials can be effective with the right support staff. With the wrong support staff it just magnifies an elected official's flaws. Just look at Bush II. With the exception of Condi Rice (and later Robert Gates) the people he surrounded himself with were all incompetents. Rumsfeld, Cheney, Ashcroft etc...

I've never thought Bush II was a smart man (because he's not) but I think that at his core he's a good man who really wanted to do the right thing. But when you surround yourself with powerful personalities that you put a lot of trust in and those personalities are either malevolent (Cheney) or clueless (Ashcroft) then you set yourself up for disaster. Obama did himself no favors by appointing the people he did. Though maybe he did exactly that for a reason.

Although he did make one very smart move; keeping Robert Gates. The last thing the military needed at that point was a change in direction or philosophy.

I think you forgot Paulson in that mix.

I didn't so much as forget him as just not have the room to list all of them.

Cheney is evil because of haliburton?  news flash Obama ended up giving some hotly contested contract to haliburton anyway, because they were the best company for it.

No, not specifically because of Halliburton (though his connection was suspect) but for a number of reasons.

Did you know that Blackwater (now doing business as Academi) was recently awarded a major contract under Obama's watch? Like Halliburton they're just the best equipped to do the job.

Whether the US should be using mercenaries AT ALL is a separate argument.

and what about the FEMA dude? what was his name? that guy was a bozo without the clown nose.

"You're doin' a heck of a job Brownie!" 

That reminds me of an episode of 30Rock where Jack Donaghy leaves NBC for a job in Washington in some interior agency. Ferris Bueller plays the guy he works for.

Scooter Burger: Oh we can't do that now, we have a meeting to go to!
Jack Donaghy: Well I just got here, I'm not prepared for a meeting.
Scooter Burger: I'm not drunk either but I think we'll manage.

caveat emptor, those nasty fema trailers are still out there. they sat in lots on I-55 in MS FOR YEARS! now they've been hitched up and are for sale all over the place. some of these thing had the doors open, windows busted out, I can't imagine the roof air still works, if at all, it won't for long. some are for sale in the 5-6 grand area 

[The Anvil]

caveat emptor, those nasty fema trailers are still out there. they sat in lots on I-55 in MS FOR YEARS! now they've been hitched up and are for sale all over the place. some of these thing had the doors open, windows busted out, I can't imagine the roof air still works, if at all, it won't for long. some are for sale in the 5-6 grand area  

[musclehead]

caveat emptor, those nasty fema trailers are still out there. they sat in lots on I-55 in MS FOR YEARS! now they've been hitched up and are for sale all over the place. some of these thing had the doors open, windows busted out, I can't imagine the roof air still works, if at all, it won't for long. some are for sale in the 5-6 grand area  

I wanna say, ohio maybe? i've been by there in the distant past.

[The Anvil]

caveat emptor, those nasty fema trailers are still out there. they sat in lots on I-55 in MS FOR YEARS! now they've been hitched up and are for sale all over the place. some of these thing had the doors open, windows busted out, I can't imagine the roof air still works, if at all, it won't for long. some are for sale in the 5-6 grand area  

I wanna say, ohio maybe? i've been by there in the distant past.

The place is in Indiana but you might find the signs in Ohio too.

[musclehead]

I was thinking mid west