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FryeVRCCDS0067
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« on: April 08, 2012, 08:04:39 AM »

Helped Son Andy rebuild his petcock last night(wasn't much help, damn leg). We changed some vac lines, tank vent line and cleaned the air filter while we were at it. As always, the only frustrating part was hooking the fuel/vacuum/vent lines back up. In particular on his bike since he's got all extra chrome covers.

It reminded me of this quick disconnect system. 
http://redeye.ecrater.com/p/2063367/quick-disconnect-kit-version-4-honda
Is anybody here using it?
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« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2012, 08:11:00 AM »

I bought and installed it and the bike seemed starved for fuel above 75mph.  It just did not run the same.  Road with it for about 300 miles.  Took it off and went back to the old (original) setup and all was fine.
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« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2012, 08:37:25 AM »


I run one of those fuel disconnects, have for about 2 years. No fuel starvation problems.

What I think makes the difference is a Pingel. No proof, but I think the Pingel has higher fuel flow so no fuel starvation even at 80+ mph sustained.
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« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2012, 12:58:02 PM »

I do run a Pingel, but when I installed the quick disconnect, the bike had several fuel supply issues. I removed it and all is well. I have it in my toolbox drawer if anyone wants a good deal on one.
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« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2012, 02:00:10 PM »

When converted to the pingel and the in-line filter I used the worm gear clamp that had a thumb adapter on the hex head. No more tools needed to disconnect the fuel line from the the valve.  cooldude Thumbs up in my book.
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« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2012, 03:12:14 PM »

I have the quick disconnect and the inline fuel filter.  I have the original petcock.
No fuel problems so far, but I've only got probably 400-500 miles on it.
I've heard lots of reports of fuel starvation after installing either one of these components.
I seem to recall someone demonstrating that the fuel line & filter should not have a dip in the line which seemed to have caused problems...
I have a hard time believing the fuel filter (Purolator?) just doesn't have the flow capacity, although I'd like to avoid this problem and will probably look into a new petcock soon.
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« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2012, 04:35:10 PM »

I tried the quick disconnect briefly. The o-ring was quickly cut while connecting or disconnecting it and the result was an uncontrollable leak. I installed the backup o-ring and all seemed well until the spring loaded assembly popped apart and the spring and ball went flying. Redeye quickly sent a free replacement. On the road I began to have fuel starvation and the bike just quit. Stuck on the side of the road I fooled around with the quick disconnect and it felt like it wasn't fully seated and was just barely flowing. I took it apart and pressed it back together and I was on my way once again. I guess that I just lost faith in the system and took it out. It just didn't seem that necessary give the many failure modes.
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« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2012, 04:52:40 PM »

If you take your tank off at least a dozen times a year, then I'd suggest ya go for it.

My tank comes off maybe 3 times a year and I don't feel I need it.   However I have been wrenching several years and have a humongous tool box full of tools, so I have a tool for 90% of the occasions I'd need a quick release.

Sorry, but I don't like those contraptions unless we are at the track and have to get the manifold off for some unknown reason.

That is just my opinion, and opinions are like A**holes, everybody has one.   So jump on and burn my butt.
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« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2012, 04:54:09 PM »

I seem to recall someone demonstrating that the fuel line & filter should not have a dip in the line which seemed to have caused problems...

I too have heard this somewhere on this board. I struggle to understand how this can be. As long as the fuel line is below the fuel level then gravity will have its way and the fuel will flow through a dip, loops and even uphill.

The quick disconnect itself flows in a loop:

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« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2012, 05:19:49 PM »

I seem to recall someone demonstrating that the fuel line & filter should not have a dip in the line which seemed to have caused problems...

I too have heard this somewhere on this board. I struggle to understand how this can be. As long as the fuel line is below the fuel level then gravity will have its way and the fuel will flow through a dip, loops and and even uphill.

The quick disconnect itself flows in a loop:




You would think that.  I thought the same way.  However, after installing the quick disconnect, the valk ran fine from cold start but whenever I stopped for more than 30 minutes, the bike would run out of fuel in less than a mile after the restart.  Only by messing with the fuel line did I get it running again.  After the 3rd time, I removed the quick disconnect and no more problems.

Nothing else changed so it had to be the quick disconnect.  Running the OEM petcock.

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« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2012, 05:34:22 PM »


Just looking at the picture from Redeye's website I can see two places, just above the fuel line clamps, where the line is kinking. Now that can't be good for fuel flow! I can believe that it might be some other issue like this rather than a simple dip in the fuel line.

My supercharged Valk has a Pingel that has its fuel nipple pointing down. This results in a fuel line that loops down and then rises up to the single carburetor. No problem at all.
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« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2012, 06:30:37 PM »

Thanks for the info guys. I'm gonna pass on buying one.
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« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2012, 08:49:06 PM »

I bought one of those quick disconnects.
It leaked like crazy. Right where its supposed to seperate.
Ive called it a loss of 20$ someodd bux and tossed it back on the work bench.

Ive found it pretty easy to use a pair of needle nose to get the lines back on.
During my bikes rebuild.
I must have had the tank off 20 or more times.
Get it all running and working after 7 months of used parts and my labor.
Then install the fuel line disconnect as the last part............leaks like crazy.
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« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2012, 05:58:41 AM »

I bought one of those quick disconnects.
It leaked like crazy. Right where its supposed to seperate.
Ive called it a loss of 20$ someodd bux and tossed it back on the work bench.

Ive found it pretty easy to use a pair of needle nose to get the lines back on.
During my bikes rebuild.
I must have had the tank off 20 or more times.
Get it all running and working after 7 months of used parts and my labor.
Then install the fuel line disconnect as the last part............leaks like crazy.

Hmmm, and my experience has been just the opposite.  I'll have to keep an eye out  ???
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« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2012, 09:50:20 AM »

Ive had them on both my Valks for a few years now with no problems and they certainly improve fuel tank removal.
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« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2012, 02:15:56 PM »

Ive had them on both my Valks for a few years now with no problems and they certainly improve fuel tank removal.

I would like to see this pic a tad larger please.  Evil
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« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2012, 02:18:54 PM »

I extended my fuel line and tank vent a tad longer. It makes it go on easy. I usually set the rear of the tank on my fist and use my other hand with pliers and slide everything back on.
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« Reply #17 on: April 09, 2012, 03:51:38 PM »

I extended my fuel line and tank vent a tad longer. It makes it go on easy. I usually set the rear of the tank on my fist and use my other hand with pliers and slide everything back on.

I did that to mine too, it does make it easier. Guess we'll replace and lengthen Andy's fuel line the next time we have the tank off.

Thanks again guys,
Mike
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« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2012, 07:00:39 AM »

This Redeye quick disconnect caused me major problems.  I removed it and everything is back to normal.  If you have fuel starvation or total fuel shutdown I strongly recommend replacing it with the oem fuel line.  It looks like a great idea but doesn't work as it should.

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