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Friend with an 883. Very informal, tried roll on side by side from several speeds. He didn't have a prayer. Much smaller bike and lighter but no comparison in power with a dragon. Harley has a good sound but not as racy as the cobras. I kinda like the 883, but a little cramped. I would opt for the 1200 if I was getting one.
Power difference at low speed, immediately starts walking off from the harley. Over 3000, really leaves him in the dust.
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« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2012, 05:31:39 AM » |
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And your point is..........
The 883 and the 1200 sportsters have never given a Valk a run for their money.
Of course that can be said of most HDs.
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« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2012, 07:23:50 AM » |
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And your point is..........
The 883 and the 1200 sportsters have never given a Valk a run for their money.
Of course that can be said of most HDs.
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« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2012, 07:44:06 AM » |
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Your right. I'd be willing to put my wifes 250 Rebel up against the sportsters.
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« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2012, 08:01:28 AM » |
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The Sportster 1200 is a very capable engine. H-D just keeps it in a pretty mild state of tune. Though the XR1200 is quite healthy. Even the 883 can be made into a pretty fast bike with a few tricks. But from the factory they're designed to be approachable.
I can tell you right now that my Buell X1 would have walked away from any non-supercharged Valk. Though the Valk has an advantage in the launch department. On a twisty road? I'll meet you at the end and have already had lunch.
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« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2012, 08:17:26 AM » |
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lets see an 883 against a 1500,,thats like a 289 ford against a 426 dodge,,,yep you got braggin rights now!!!!
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« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2012, 08:49:09 AM » |
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+1...never understood braggin about beating another bike when your ahead already by 500-1000cc. Guy on the Rune Board does it all the time...I just laugh...
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« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2012, 09:56:06 AM » |
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Running against an 883 or 1200 stock sportster is not much of a contest. When the times right, I'll run my Vstrom 1000 against my son's Valk. I heard tell that a stock Vstrom 1000 will beat a stock Valkyrie. I'm not sure what the point is tho. The stock Valk has enough going for it. It doesn't need to be able to beat any bike. It's smooth, it's a real torque generator, a crowd generator, and converts riders faithful to the end. Add the nickle trick and you've got the best power cruiser ever built IMO, and I don't even own one anymore.  |
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« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2012, 10:01:22 AM » |
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it has nothing to do with cc's, it is all about engine design. A 600cc sport bike runs 10s in the 1/4.
a proper v-angle two cylinder will run in the tens.
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« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2012, 10:40:38 AM » |
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I had a 1971 750 Honda with an 850 kit. It was a screamer. A friend had an Italian two stroke 50cc racer buried in his garage. I laughed and joked about racing him to the next offramp and back for a case of beer. He said leave now. I offered to help him get the bike outta the garage because it was kinda buried and looked like it hadnt been fired up in a while.
He said it was no problem and I should be on my way. I got to the offramp and realized I was in trouble when I saw the blue cloud rapidly approaching.
I believe I bought Millers.
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« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2012, 11:50:18 AM » |
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lets see an 883 against a 1500,,thats like a 289 ford against a 426 dodge,,,yep you got braggin rights now!!!!
Well, not quite as simple as that. A GSXR 750 would probably run off from a 1520 Valk. A 1300 Busa would laugh at a Valk's acceleration. We were just riding together and you have to test them out as you ride along. |
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« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2012, 01:24:49 PM » |
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I'm sure your friend knew what was gonna happen when you guys started, a little throttle play among friends is fun! Hoser  |
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« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2012, 02:17:28 PM » |
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I may be doing something wrong, but a sportster either 1200 or 883 had me off the line in 1st gear pretty good until I launched into 2nd gear and went buy him. It may be me conservative, but the Valks first gear doesn't run hard very long before you have to shift into 2nd and 2nd gear is where you can really run it out along with 3rd gear all the way up into the 70+ mph range several times I have done. The sporster took me off the line in his first gear running longer in 1st gear than me but then again he was about 100 lbs. lighter than me and well over 150lb. lighter bike than my I/S valkyrie. I raced a newer 1832cc goldwing off the line somewhat hard also and neither one of us could out-do the other dead even race up to 60 mph in a 45 mph zone before we shut it down for fear of getting a ticket in-town nearby with cops cruising around. Can't complain on either instance since my Valk is 1/2 price of a newer goldwing and not any cheaper than a sportster, but a lot more comfy cruiser.
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« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2012, 02:34:31 PM » |
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I may be doing something wrong, but a sportster either 1200 or 883 had me off the line in 1st gear pretty good until I launched into 2nd gear and went buy him. It may be me conservative, but the Valks first gear doesn't run hard very long before you have to shift into 2nd and 2nd gear is where you can really run it out along with 3rd gear all the way up into the 70+ mph range several times I have done. The sporster took me off the line in his first gear running longer in 1st gear than me but then again he was about 100 lbs. lighter than me and well over 150lb. lighter bike than my I/S valkyrie. I raced a newer 1832cc goldwing off the line somewhat hard also and neither one of us could out-do the other dead even race up to 60 mph in a 45 mph zone before we shut it down for fear of getting a ticket in-town nearby with cops cruising around. Can't complain on either instance since my Valk is 1/2 price of a newer goldwing and not any cheaper than a sportster, but a lot more comfy cruiser.
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« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2012, 02:40:44 PM » |
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it has nothing to do with cc's, it is all about engine design. A 600cc sport bike runs 10s in the 1/4.
a proper v-angle two cylinder will run in the tens.
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« Reply #15 on: April 12, 2012, 02:44:15 PM » |
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it has nothing to do with cc's, it is all about engine design. A 600cc sport bike runs 10s in the 1/4.
a proper v-angle two cylinder will run in the tens.
Your right. Even in vehicle engines I,ve seen a 2L run away from 5.7L. Under 3 liter Japanese I6's making 1200 horsepower.  |
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« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2012, 02:50:05 PM » |
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The Sportie is torqy, but not nearly enough to start with a Valk. And as we all know, once one gets the F-6 rpms up above 3K, things start happening pretty fast. Sporties are fun bikes, though.
We trudge on.
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« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2012, 05:00:31 PM » |
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Try this on your Valkyrie. In front of your friend who has the 883.
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A 600cc sport bike will leave my ST1300 in the dust.
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« Reply #19 on: April 12, 2012, 09:31:04 PM » |
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I may be doing something wrong, but a sportster either 1200 or 883 had me off the line in 1st gear pretty good until I launched into 2nd gear
Lighter bike, better low end torque, better clutch (I've owned both). Hell, my 125cc PCX scooter will beat my Valk to 20 mph, but once you actually get the Valk's clutch all the way out in first it will beat the PCX. In fact I believe it can exceed the PCX's top speed in first gear. |
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« Reply #20 on: April 13, 2012, 04:19:23 AM » |
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