A fresh take on the Zimmerman thing

[FryeVRCCDS0067]

Was just conversing on facebook with a good friend of my wife and I. Our friend is a great mother of two good, grown kids and now a grandmother. She's also black.

Concerning the Zimmerman thing she said her son came to visit her recently wearing a hoodie, which scared her badly. She told him to take it off before someone shot him or a cop tackled him just because of what he was wearing. Then, she added that she "hates guns". She's been to my house numerous times and never mentioned such a thing before. I think her hate of guns is new-found and because of the Zimmerman thing. Just as has her fear for her son's safety is Zimmerman related. I told her I thought the media had turned something which wasn't race related into something that was and I think I'm right. What I didn't realize was how successful they were in this endeavor.  

I hope our country heals from this quickly and I hope that those in the media who are responsible for people feeling like this are held responsible for any and all deaths and crimes they help create.

[f6gal]

... I hope that those in the media who are responsible for people feeling like this are held responsible for any and all deaths and crimes they help create.

Yeah, right! 

[R J]

I hope our country heals from this quickly and I hope that those in the media who are responsible for people feeling like this are held responsible for any and all deaths and crimes they help create.

Yeah right, dream on pal, it ain't goin to happen.

Ya remember WATTS in California a few years back?

[Fudd]

Although the Martin family has said they would accept and abide by whatever decision a court finds in the case, I doubt the "community" will accept anything less than guilty.

I remember following the Rodney King assault aquittial, 50 innocent people died.  Billions of dollars of real estate torched and businesses shut down forever.  I remember the sick, helpless feeling watching a trucker named Denney being dragged from his truck as a mob tried to beat his brains out.  The SOB that danced after he gave the worst blow with a brick into the head of an already unconsience Denney was given 10 years.  He was out of jail in four years.

I hope there is some way Zimmerman gets a fair trial, but you have to wonder if the jurors will be biased to save Florida from a "LA riot" type catrostrophe. 

[Robert]

Although the news media lied about so many aspects of this case the people involved did nothing to dispel the stories either and in fact fanned the flames of prejudice all the while most took the accusations in good stride. While I feel for this mother and grandmother, listening to rap music wearing hoodies and pants that start below the butt all model a gangster, winner take all attitude and lifestyle.
Letting a good kid go around like a perceived gangster, to me is more deadly than a gun. Why dont we teach our kids that if you embrace a thug lifestyle that you maybe will get a thugs reward? This is more deadly than any gun,, the ideology associated with a lifestyle as witnessed most with guns use them for peaceful purposes but all those that embrace this stylized life seem to have problems. I would ask her why doesn't she speak up for the truth of the matter either? I have noticed that most on this board waited till the full story came out to really try to understand what happened. Then established true responsibility for what happened while this woman puts the blame on guns. Not the people who hyped the media who didn't seek the truth but sought revenge. I cannot even say true justice either. To me these are the same blinders that got Obama in office.  Sorry if I offended you but that's the way I see it and I still feel for this woman also.

[FryeVRCCDS0067]

I don't think anyone in my friends family has ever dressed like a gangster. At least I can't imagine it.

My family and I went to my grandson Dano's first soccer game today. While sitting there on a windy field I noticed my wife was wearing a hoodie as were maybe 20% of the parents and kids. Non of them appeared to be gangsters.

Myself, I've killed many deer while wearing a camo hoodie. I find it infinitely amusing to think someone who saw me headed to the woods might have thought I was a gangster.  Although I would have been carrying at least one gun, several knives, a small survival kit and I usually drive a pickup with dried blood in the back.

[Robert]

Just in case you really didn't understand what I was saying then maybe this will be a better example for the music as well as the style. He is dressed more upscale but the look the music you get the point. So do you like the kids with the pants down below their butt and look like a gangster? That the underwear is the only thing that covers them? and I suppose you wear this too?   The music very motivating and definitely uplifting the thing that good boys and girls should aspire to right? Its not the hoodie alone but the total image. How about the unibomber Ted Kazinski that image is still around today.  Not all people who wear hoodies are criminals but criminals and rap stars that promote violence get alot of press these days do wear hoodies. You might call it reverse pr that brings attention to a particular style. Also to a particular lifestyle that some try to emulate and dont see the problem in it. It could be black or white its the lifestyle not the color. 

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[FryeVRCCDS0067]

That the underwear is the only thing that covers them? and I suppose you wear this too?   

Not normally but I suppose I could if you talked to me real nice. 

[Robert]

EEEWWWWWWWW but funny 

[G-Man]

Why dont we teach our kids that if you embrace a thug lifestyle that you maybe will get a thugs reward?

Because this is not the social agenda of the Left.  Yes, this is entirely political.  The Left's "feel good" mantra is that everyone is equal, everyone should be able to speak and dress as they like,  There is no self responsibility as everything happens TO you and not BY you.

This is evident by the public bashing of those, within their own communities, that have tried to say this in the past.  Even Bill Cosby was publicly chastised by Black leaders when he said this.  He was verbally assaulted because he "aired their dirty laundry to the white community" (like it was big secret to begin with).  He came back at them by saying that their dirty laundry was on the streets everyday at 3 o'clock.

[FryeVRCCDS0067]

I think I failed to convey what I was trying to say with my original post.

My point was that the news media has planted irrational fear in the hearts of some of the black population through out the US. I'm not talking about the gangster population, I'm talking about the conservative, church going people who are not in the news for committing crimes all the time.

It's turned people who were not anti-gun into anti-gun people. It's sewn distrust of our justice system into the hearts of virtually all Americans. If the media's purpose was to divide American citizens into separate groups and to encourage racial strife, they could not have done a better job.

If their purpose was to encourage anyone who considers themselves to be some kind of a minority to vote for obama in the upcoming presidential election, again, they probably could not have been more successful.

I think the damage this is going to cause our society is going to be farther reaching than we are yet anticipating.

[G-Man]

I think I failed to convey what I was trying to say with my original post.

My point was that the news media has planted irrational fear in the hearts of some of the black population through out the US. I'm not talking about the gangster population, I'm talking about the conservative, church going people who are not in the news for committing crimes all the time.

It's turned people who were not anti-gun into anti-gun people. It's sewn distrust of our justice system into the hearts of virtually all Americans. If the media's purpose was to divide American citizens into separate groups and to encourage racial strife, they could not have done a better job.

If their purpose was to encourage anyone who considers themselves to be some kind of a minority to vote for obama in the upcoming presidential election, again, they probably could not have been more successful.

I think the damage this is going to cause our society is going to be farther reaching than we are yet anticipating.

and BINGO was his name-o!!