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« on: May 06, 2012, 04:46:39 PM » |
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Question on the front wheel bearings .. I have a 97 tour .. had my bike on the stand changing oil and was checking the tires ... I noticed that I had a very slight side to side play in the front tire ... very slight but I could feel it. It that normal and should I feel no play at all?
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« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2012, 05:23:30 PM » |
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You should feel no play at all. How many miles on the bike?
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« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2012, 06:48:18 PM » |
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40,000 ... If the bearings need replacement would i see or hear any sign of that? How hard it it to replace them?
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« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2012, 09:45:27 PM » |
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Not hard at all. I rent a blind bearing puller tool from Autozone and a 5 lb slide hammer from O'Reilly's. Remove one bearing from one side then the internal spacer. I then stick a fairly large socket on extensions though the wheel to tap out the other bearing. I clean the bearing pockets if needed then install the the new bearings using a bearing press I made from a piece of 5/8ths all thread I bought at Lowe's, two fender washers the same size as the outer diameter as the bearings and two nuts.
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« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2012, 06:21:48 AM » |
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Anyone have addition info? Thanks
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« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2012, 07:59:42 AM » |
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Did you insure the axle nut is tight?
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« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2012, 03:55:51 PM » |
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I think I need them too. Suggestions on a good source and size to look for as an aftermarket upgrade to the Honda bearings?
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« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2012, 07:29:10 PM » |
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I believe you will find that the 97's had front wheel bearing problems. In 98 they increased the bearing size.  |
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« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2012, 10:49:01 PM » |
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I believe you will find that the 97's had front wheel bearing problems. In 98 they increased the bearing size. Actually, I do believe you'll find it's like hydrolock. Happened a little but reported more and more due to retelling. I believe the reason Honda increased the bearing size was money. Less expensive to keep two bearing sizes in stock versus three bearing sizes. The front bearings on 98 and laters is the same size as the left rear wheel bearing. For the OP the front wheel bearings are 6004-2RS, I use SKF bearings. Marty |
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« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2012, 03:43:56 AM » |
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I believe you will find that the 97's had front wheel bearing problems. In 98 they increased the bearing size. I have a 97. I have not heard ONCE on here that the 97's have any higher failure rate than the later ones. I think the main reason they went to the larger size, is that it is now the same size as the left rear one. So, there would be only two sizes instead of three on the bike. MP |
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« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2012, 06:14:59 AM » |
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WWORK ... What are you seeing or hearing that makes you believe you need front bearings too? Just curious  |
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« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2012, 09:00:30 AM » |
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I think I need them too. Suggestions on a good source and size to look for as an aftermarket upgrade to the Honda bearings?
From the research I did for the Double Row Bearing Mod article, I discovered Honda uses top quality bearings. When mine have need replacing I buy SKF bearings from Motion Industries. Marty |
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« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2012, 12:58:23 PM » |
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Something I am courious about:
If you own a '97 and the front wheel screws up somehow that you have to replace it, would a later model wheel fit easily? or at all?
Is the axle diameter the same? Brake rotors, etc...?
Or would it be necessary to replace the forks, calipers, rotors and all?
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« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2012, 01:05:48 PM » |
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Something I am courious about:
If you own a '97 and the front wheel screws up somehow that you have to replace it, would a later model wheel fit easily? or at all? Yes
Is the axle diameter the same? Brake rotors, etc...? Yes
Or would it be necessary to replace the forks, calipers, rotors and all? No
Yes, they interchange. My 97 Tourer has a 98 or 99 front wheel on it. Marty |
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« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2012, 04:52:13 PM » |
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Something I am courious about:
If you own a '97 and the front wheel screws up somehow that you have to replace it, would a later model wheel fit easily? or at all? Yes
Is the axle diameter the same? Brake rotors, etc...? Yes
Or would it be necessary to replace the forks, calipers, rotors and all? No
Yes, they interchange. My 97 Tourer has a 98 or 99 front wheel on it. Marty Mine too! MP |
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« Reply #15 on: May 09, 2012, 05:12:53 PM » |
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WWORK ... What are you seeing or hearing that makes you believe you need front bearings too? Just curious Getting some mild feedback in turns - light feeling like something's grinding a bit as if there's grit in the bearings or something. Front bearings were my first thought. Standard (very non-standard now) 97 with a little over 55K on it. Seems to be something that's not uncommon at that stage in life. Why, thoughts that it may be something else? If so suggestions appreciated. |
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« Reply #16 on: May 09, 2012, 07:45:40 PM » |
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WWORK ... What are you seeing or hearing that makes you believe you need front bearings too? Just curious Getting some mild feedback in turns - light feeling like something's grinding a bit as if there's grit in the bearings or something. Front bearings were my first thought. Standard (very non-standard now) 97 with a little over 55K on it. Seems to be something that's not uncommon at that stage in life. Why, thoughts that it may be something else? If so suggestions appreciated. Could be the tires. They easily sound like a grinding noise when in a turn. I check my bearings when doing a tire change; it's my tires making the noise. |
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« Reply #17 on: May 09, 2012, 09:42:53 PM » |
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« Reply #18 on: May 10, 2012, 07:54:35 PM » |
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I have a 97. I have not heard ONCE on here that the 97's have any higher failure rate than the later ones.
I think the main reason they went to the larger size, is that it is now the same size as the left rear one. So, there would be only two sizes instead of three on the bike.
MP
What you say sounds reasonable MP, standardizing parts would certainly save money. I have an observation about the bearings which seems to throw a wrench into that logic: HDL's Valkyrie store lists them under separate stock numbers and prices them differently. Also, they have a different Honda stock number in the microfische, the 98 Standard/Tourer front bearings are #91052-MZ2-A21 selling for 12.71 each, the left rear is 91052-MAE-004 selling for 16.65 each. Although they are the same size, they are evidently not the same item. |
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