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Had a problem last week when changing brake and clutch fluids on the valk. One of my rear brake reservoir cover screws had enough corrosion in the phillips head that it stripped out. I ordered four new screws so I'd have some in stock.
Yesterday after the new machine screws arrived I started trying to remove the stripped one. I started off with a small left-hand bit as if I was going to use an easy-out on it. It's been my experience that 75% of the time a bolt will back out while drilling it with the reverse bit without ever needing an easy-out. It didn't happen this time though. Because of the small diameter of these machine screws I didn't really want to use and easy-out. So I stopped drilling before I got much below the level of the head and reached for the dremel tool. I used a small diameter cutting/grinding wheel which was about the same thickness as a hollow ground screwdriver tip I picked out to match it. The larger diameter wheels would have cut into the cover before they cut a deep enough slot in the screw head to be useful but the small diameter wheel worked great. I cut the slot as deep as I could and stopped just as it started to mar the plastic cover. It was just enough and the hollow ground screwdriver bit fit it perfectly and it backed right out. I replaced both screws of course.
I can't say enough about using hollow ground screw driver tips instead of the "wedge shaped" tips found on most screwdrivers. The wedge shaped ones just touch the top of the slot of a machine screw, they damage the screws and try to wedge out of the screw as you torque them.
Anytime your looking at a used firearm, look at the screws. If they're boogered up from a wedge type screwdriver there's been some shade tree gunsmithing going on. Same goes with most anything that uses machine screws. They'll never look the same if you don't use hollow ground screwdriver bits with parallel sides to match the construction of the screw heads.
Concerning phillips head screws, John Thompson, who invented them certainly invented more than I have so I hate to sound critical, but, personally, I hate the dang things. When facing up to catch water on a vehicle, they are engineered to fail.
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hubcapsc
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« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2012, 07:04:33 AM » |
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I have an el-cheapo bit handle (even has a lefty-loosey righty-tighty button  ) with a tray of bits. Among those bits is a bit that perfectly fits all the reservoir "phillips head" screws on the Valkyrie. It is my Valkyrie screwdriver of choice... -Mike |
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Momz
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« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2012, 07:16:31 AM » |
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Valkyries and all Hondas use ""richards" head screws, not "phillips" screws.
Yes, they are different!
Harbor Frieght has a good selection of inexpesive richards screwdrivers, but the HF sales associates may not know what you may be asking for.
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Farther
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« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2012, 07:41:52 AM » |
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Valkyries and all Hondas use ""richards" head screws........
They they the screws known as "dick" head screws? |
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FryeVRCCDS0067
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« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2012, 09:57:58 AM » |
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Valkyries and all Hondas use ""richards" head screws........
They they the screws known as "dick" head screws? I used to work with a guy named "Richard Hand". I guess his folks had a sense of humor.  |
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chrise2469
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« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2012, 11:33:56 AM » |
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All joking aside, the best screwdriver to get is a JIS screwdriver or use the screwdriver that came in the toolkit.
The first time I heard that I thought the person was full of it. Now that I have one they fit great. They even work on all replacement phillips screws on my reservoirs.
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Jack
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VRCC# 3099, 1999 Valk Standard, 2006 Rocket 3
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« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2012, 01:44:56 PM » |
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Valkyries and all Hondas use ""richards" head screws........
They they the screws known as "dick" head screws? I used to work with a guy named "Richard Hand". I guess his folks had a sense of humor. I went to school with a "Dick Long". It was always funny when the teacher would call out our last names first. |
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FryeVRCCDS0067
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« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2012, 02:09:42 PM » |
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Valkyries and all Hondas use ""richards" head screws........
They they the screws known as "dick" head screws? I used to work with a guy named "Richard Hand". I guess his folks had a sense of humor. I went to school with a "Dick Long". It was always funny when the teacher would call out our last names first. |
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« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2012, 04:24:27 PM » |
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I use the screwdriver and spark-plug socket from the tool kit of my 85 GW Aspencade. The plug socket is a nice looking tool. .jpg) |
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Momz
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« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2012, 06:55:41 AM » |
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The JIS crosshead screwdrivers are called "richards" and the SAE crosshead screwdrivers are called "phillips".
Srange, but true,.....a little tech trivia
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chrise2469
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« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2012, 12:09:12 PM » |
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The JIS crosshead screwdrivers are called "richards" and the SAE crosshead screwdrivers are called "phillips".
Srange, but true,.....a little tech trivia
Sorry George, I usually defer to your encyclopedic knowledge of bikes, but I'm gonna need an external reference for this one.  Are you thinking of the frearson screw also known as Reed and Prince? Or is this a strange Detroit colloquialism. Need some Robertson screws on the bike for us Canuks. |
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