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« on: June 14, 2012, 06:22:12 AM » |
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I ordered a Bridgestone 200/60/16 vr and it really looks BIG! I've read reviews on DLP and no problems of fitting there. Now I just read a review on C Customizing by DAG and he said he had to do a cage mod? It will probably costs a lot to ship it back now.  Hoser also said cage mod..whatever that is. ??? One said it was very close the driveshaft and had to play with the air pressure. Should I be concerned about extra wear on the rear end? Thanks for any help
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« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2012, 06:30:17 AM » |
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I ordered a Bridgestone 200/60/16 vr and it really looks BIG! I've read reviews on DLP and no problems of fitting there. Now I just read a review on C Customizing by DAG and he said he had to do a cage mod? It will probably costs a lot to ship it back now.  Hoser also said cage mod..whatever that is. ??? One said it was very close the driveshaft and had to play with the air pressure. Should I be concerned about extra wear on the rear end? Thanks for any help I'm running a Bridgestone Extra 200/60/16 M/C tire on mine. I had done the nut mod on mine several years ago. Look up the cage mod, not hard to do and put the tire on and ride. I put 40 lbs in mine. David
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« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2012, 07:17:58 AM » |
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I ordered a Bridgestone 200/60/16 vr and it really looks BIG! I've read reviews on DLP and no problems of fitting there. Now I just read a review on C Customizing by DAG and he said he had to do a cage mod? It will probably costs a lot to ship it back now.  Hoser also said cage mod..whatever that is. ??? One said it was very close the driveshaft and had to play with the air pressure. Should I be concerned about extra wear on the rear end? Thanks for any help I'm running a Bridgestone Extra 200/60/16 M/C tire on mine. I had done the nut mod on mine several years ago. Look up the cage mod, not hard to do and put the tire on and ride. I put 40 lbs in mine. David I don't know the difference between the Exedra and Battleax, but it's probably the same. Thanks David. 
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« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2012, 09:03:42 AM » |
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Now this is weird, I just read on Directline reviews that Tundra did not have to do any mods for his Bridestone Axe to work and also read that the frame dimensions vary but find that hard to believe! 
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« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2012, 11:46:41 AM » |
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I didn't have to either, but it's close, I did the nutcage mod, don't know if I needed it or not. Hoser
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« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2012, 11:49:26 AM » |
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do the nut cage mod....it will take you less than an hour, then put that tire on, and enjoy.
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« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2012, 01:56:14 PM » |
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Good timing with the post  I'm looking for a new m/c tyre for my bike and, basically, I would like the widest looking tyre available. I know that 180 is supposed to be the widest you can fit on a 5 1/2" rim, and that wider tyres can be pinched in and look little wider, fitted, than stock. I can't find it at the moment, but there was a Rattlebars comparisons of actual dimensions which varied markedly from nominal sizes. The Bridgestone sounds good, what other tyres are in the picture? The Metzeler? Doesn't that have a lot less tread than the 180? Thanks
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« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2012, 02:20:25 PM » |
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Good timing with the post  I'm looking for a new m/c tyre for my bike and, basically, I would like the widest looking tyre available. I know that 180 is supposed to be the widest you can fit on a 5 1/2" rim, and that wider tyres can be pinched in and look little wider, fitted, than stock. I can't find it at the moment, but there was a Rattlebars comparisons of actual dimensions which varied markedly from nominal sizes. The Bridgestone sounds good, what other tyres are in the picture? The Metzeler? Doesn't that have a lot less tread than the 180? Thanks No difference about the tread but the Battleax 200 is huge compared to the 180. The BS and Metz are just 2 and I did a lot of reviews from different sites and the BS is for me. 
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« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2012, 04:00:47 PM » |
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I measured my bike and this might interest you men. The Bridgestone Exedra G702 180/70R16 rear tire makes for a 3/8" gap between the tire and swingarm. That means a tire 3/4" wider, when installed, will just rub. That's how huge a tire will fit.
If it will rub then there's a lot of rubbers  on here that haven't complained yet. I haven't got it on yet but it's supposed to fit......I hope 
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« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2012, 04:08:45 PM » |
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Seems some bikes are different, On my STD with a 205-60R-16 all I did was the fender washer mod and had 1/8th clearance at the swingarm, On my I/S I had to do the washer mod and the nut cage removal to keep a 205-60R-16 from rubbing under the fender, swingarm clearance was at 1/16th. It's usually not the swingarm that rubs, it's the nut cage for the rear fender section bolt. I Had a 200 Metz for a very short while with no mods needed on my STD. plenty of room at the swingarm!
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« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2012, 04:11:24 PM » |
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My 200 battlax had the clearance of 2 credit cards, it never rubbed on the swing arm. I have heard of folks that dimple the swing arm with a ball peen hammer to get a car tire on. If a 205/55 car tire will fit, I think the 200/60 mc tire will have no trouble. Hoser
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« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2012, 04:43:33 PM » |
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Hoser I'm thinking the same thing. A 205/55 or 205/65 HAS to be bigger than the rounded 200/60 MC tire. I think the ppl that put on car tires are the ones having to do the nut cage and washer mods. 
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« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2012, 06:12:02 PM » |
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I ordered a Bridgestone 200/60/16 vr and it really looks BIG! I've read reviews on DLP and no problems of fitting there. Now I just read a review on C Customizing by DAG and he said he had to do a cage mod? It will probably costs a lot to ship it back now.  Hoser also said cage mod..whatever that is. ??? One said it was very close the driveshaft and had to play with the air pressure. Should I be concerned about extra wear on the rear end? Thanks for any help I had a Metzler in 200-60-16 and no fitment issues. Just replacement price issues so I went to a CT.
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« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2012, 06:26:40 PM » |
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I ordered a Bridgestone 200/60/16 vr and it really looks BIG! I've read reviews on DLP and no problems of fitting there. Now I just read a review on C Customizing by DAG and he said he had to do a cage mod? It will probably costs a lot to ship it back now.  Hoser also said cage mod..whatever that is. ??? One said it was very close the driveshaft and had to play with the air pressure. Should I be concerned about extra wear on the rear end? Thanks for any help I had a Metzler in 200-60-16 and no fitment issues. Just replacement price issues so I went to a CT. So did you have to do the nut cage mod with the Metz?
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« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2012, 06:58:36 PM » |
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No I didnt have to do anything. I bought the bike with the tire on. It was close. You could fit a credit card between the tire and the nut box with the fender pushed down as hard as you could. If it actually hit and rubbed at all. Only when bottoming out. I never noticed it. The tire was almost a dead issue when I bought the bike. Tread was very worn and almost flat rubber. Long over due for replacing. Which I did with a very hard to almost impossible to get 195-65-16 Light Truck tire.
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« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2012, 07:07:28 PM » |
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I ordered a Bridgestone 200/60/16 vr and it really looks BIG! I've read reviews on DLP and no problems of fitting there. Now I just read a review on C Customizing by DAG and he said he had to do a cage mod? It will probably costs a lot to ship it back now.  Hoser also said cage mod..whatever that is. ??? One said it was very close the driveshaft and had to play with the air pressure. Should I be concerned about extra wear on the rear end? Thanks for any help As long as you run stock shocks you should be fine. Unlike the C/T the 200 m/c tire has a rounded profile where the c/t is almost straight. The Exedra is suppose to be a better and more improved tire. Avon Cobra makes a 200/60/16, but you better have your pocket book ready. David I had a Metzler in 200-60-16 and no fitment issues. Just replacement price issues so I went to a CT. So did you have to do the nut cage mod with the Metz?
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« Reply #17 on: June 14, 2012, 08:58:57 PM » |
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Without reading this post from the beginning. Im cunfuddled as to whos question is what.
For all its worth. The concerns really arent founded. At worst the nut cage mode might have to be done with the 200. 30 minutes worth of work on a standard. Odds on having to do it.........................close to zero for most solo riders.
If you really dont want to do it, if needed. Stick with the stock size. The 200 is 3 quarters of an inch wider. All of 3/8ths of an inch per side. Every other dimention is actually less then stock. The difference in the contact patch is slight.
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« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2012, 11:11:30 PM » |
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You'll b fine. I have the 200 metz on my standard, love the looks and no ill effect on handling. I never had any rubbing issue until i was 2 up and burning turns. Even then it was just barely. I did the cage mod and its all good.
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« Reply #19 on: June 15, 2012, 02:51:43 AM » |
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Tony, As I previously stated I know several who did need the nutcage mod. and some who don't. I did not. I did when I went to the car tire, I also had to do the fender shimming. My fender was off center by 3/4". Both procedures are very simple and in the "shop-talk" section of the board. I see your still asking about this, I would recommend doing it to be sure you won't have any problems in the future, it's a simple procedure. Re-doing maintenance frustrates me. Tundra (Doug) Here's the links I spoke of... http://lifeisaroad.com/stories/2005/08/24/valkyrieRearFenderNutCageMod.htmlHere's the fender shimming... http://rides.webshots.com/album/558419637qsIyod?vhost=rides
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« Reply #20 on: June 15, 2012, 04:09:55 AM » |
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Tony, As I previously stated I know several who did need the nutcage mod. and some who don't. I did not. I did when I went to the car tire, I also had to do the fender shimming. My fender was off center by 3/4". Both procedures are very simple and in the "shop-talk" section of the board. I see your still asking about this, I would recommend doing it to be sure you won't have any problems in the future, it's a simple procedure. Re-doing maintenance frustrates me. Tundra (Doug) Here's the links I spoke of... http://lifeisaroad.com/stories/2005/08/24/valkyrieRearFenderNutCageMod.htmlHere's the fender shimming... http://rides.webshots.com/album/558419637qsIyod?vhost=rides Doug, I think you're right and will go ahead and do the cage nut. It is simple enough and I usually ride 2 up and luggage at times so I'd rather be safe than sorry! I don't thinkk I need to do the fender shimming since I won't be putting on a CT. Thanks again, Tony 
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« Reply #21 on: June 15, 2012, 05:07:22 AM » |
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Yeah, don't do the washer mod unless you need to. 
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