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« on: May 29, 2009, 10:13:16 PM » |
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I have just started having a problem with the bike. If I put the blinker on then the engine starts cutting out and backfiring, untill I punch off the blinker. Has anyone ever heard of this? I can't think of any reason why the 2 systems are crossed?
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R J
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« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2009, 10:28:53 PM » |
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I have just started having a problem with the bike. If I put the blinker on then the engine starts cutting out and backfiring, untill I punch off the blinker. Has anyone ever heard of this? I can't think of any reason why the 2 systems are crossed?
What is the last maintneance you did or the last thing you tried to fix or take off the bike? |
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Flyboy
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« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2009, 07:27:23 AM » |
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It has been quite a while since I have done any work on the bike, I really am not sure what the last thing was. I have done just about everything to the bike. It is a 1999 Tourer. I have the Audiovox cruise control installed. I replaced the origional one with a new one, that was probably the last thing that I did.
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« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2009, 07:58:35 AM » |
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Just a thought, how about damage to the wire insulation by mice?
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Flyboy
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« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2009, 08:02:09 AM » |
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Not worried about mice. I keep the bike at my shop at the airport. No mice there. I am think that it has to be a worn/bad wire, but I cant figure out what the corrolation between the blinker and the engine running would be.
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R J
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« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2009, 08:02:26 AM » |
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It has been quite a while since I have done any work on the bike, I really am not sure what the last thing was. I have done just about everything to the bike. It is a 1999 Tourer. I have the Audiovox cruise control installed. I replaced the origional one with a new one, that was probably the last thing that I did.
Get your installation instructions out and retrace all your wire connections. Sounds like you got one in da wrong place....... That would be my 1st place to look........ |
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« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2009, 08:04:05 AM » |
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I think you may be correct.
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John Schmidt
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« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2009, 08:19:36 AM » |
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Open the battery cover and attach a meter across the battery. Start the bike and let it settle in at a good idle, watching the meter. Then turn on the blinker and see if the meter drops substantially. You might be getting a short somewhere in that circuit that is draining the available voltage while the blinkers are on. The next thing would be what RJ suggests, double check your connections for the cruise control. Keep us posted on the cure.
On my installation which is also a Tourer, I didn't like the white flat connector provided with the kit. If used, it's out in the elements and subject to any moisture, dust, etc. I cut the wires and removed the connector, soldered the wires and insulated them against the elements, then installed a connector under the seat near where I installed the servo. I don't think this has anything to do with your problem, just a suggestion.
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« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2009, 09:16:37 AM » |
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Open the battery cover and attach a meter across the battery. Start the bike and let it settle in at a good idle, watching the meter. Then turn on the blinker and see if the meter drops substantially. You might be getting a short somewhere in that circuit that is draining the available voltage while the blinkers are on. The next thing would be what RJ suggests, double check your connections for the cruise control. Keep us posted on the cure.
On my installation which is also a Tourer, I didn't like the white flat connector provided with the kit. If used, it's out in the elements and subject to any moisture, dust, etc. I cut the wires and removed the connector, soldered the wires and insulated them against the elements, then installed a connector under the seat near where I installed the servo. I don't think this has anything to do with your problem, just a suggestion.
One very touchy spot on the ground wires is inside of the black boot in under the right side cover........ Anytime I'm in there I always check that stupid green wire to make sure it is making good contact, male female round plug in....... I have been tempted to cut it solder it and heat shrink it, but sure as 773 I do, I'll need to get in there and then have to cut it to get access.......... |
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« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2009, 12:58:32 PM » |
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did you just wash to bike. or in a bad rain storm. things get wet
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« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2009, 03:08:29 PM » |
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no rain no water. Im going to check the wiring in the cruise control. May just remove the whole thing, Im not real pleased with it anyways.
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« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2009, 05:20:10 PM » |
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either you have a short to ground on the blinker circuit(by the way does it matter which side you turn on?) or your alternator may not be keeping up with the demand. Check the voltage at the battery with the engine running, should be around 13.5 volts with engine at 1500-2000 rpm.
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« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2009, 06:45:38 PM » |
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Why aren't you pleased with the cruise?
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Flyboy
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« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2009, 04:49:39 PM » |
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This is the second one I have had on the bike. For what ever reason they work but within several months they stop. Daniel Meyer has gone thru all the troubleshooting during a wrench party and he was not sure what was going on with the first system. Everything seemed to have the proper voltages and signals at the proper time, but it still never worked. I decided to change the entire system and install a new unit, and now it is doing the same thing.
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« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2009, 02:09:21 AM » |
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I work on automotive electrical systems for a living (Firetruck building) First thought is often a short (still a possiblity) but most shorts blow fuses. What a lot of people don't realize with complicated wiring systems is that most systems use a common or shared ground system and when one component isn't receiving a proper ground it will actually seek out a ground thru other components in the system. This can cause many baffling and even humorous results. Example: Firetruck warning lights not properly grounded, when lights turned on wiper and door ajar light on on! Only one of many many weird occurances. I would suggest testing the ground to the blinker system. You can to this with a meter, but only with an old fashion meter (digital meters read potential ground and won't tell you the true story). The easiest way is to take a wire, attach it to battery ground and temporarily connect it to the ground right by the blinker. If the problem goes away you have found the problem. Then it is a matter of tracing your ground wiring and finding out where you have lost the ground. Hope this helps. Could also be the problems you are having with the cruise control. Good Luck!
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« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2009, 06:13:18 AM » |
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Thanks for the insight. I own an aircraft maintenance shop, but these things are not airplanes. I try to leave the wiring to the avionics shop next door. But I can do what you have suggested, it makes sence. Thanks!
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