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« on: June 20, 2012, 07:17:12 PM » |
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Well.... put the mc tire back on.... replaced the blown shock.... and the bike still is on the verge of a wobble at around 80mph! However now i just noticed that the left fork is leaking.. blahh!  Would that cause the not stable feeling at interstate speeds? |
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Westsider
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« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2012, 07:44:28 PM » |
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Wouldnt think so. shock bushings look good?
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we'll be there when we get there - Valkless,, on lookout....
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« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2012, 08:21:16 PM » |
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« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2012, 11:05:15 PM » |
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head bearings torqued properly?
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« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2012, 04:43:14 AM » |
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head bearings torqued properly?
this is a good place to start...In my experience it is more of a wandering than a wobble that I felt at the speeds you mention. Once the steering stem was re-torqued the bike was rock steady and tracked straight. Good luck in your diagnosis....and fix. |
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« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2012, 05:21:06 AM » |
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i had a hell of a shake at 65-70 mph dropped rear tire to 37 psi and its gone.
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« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2012, 12:01:47 PM » |
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ok, thanks for all the ideas!  I focused on the steering bearings. Jacked the bike up and rotated the bars lock to lock. It takes about 12# of force to start it off center and then before it gets to one a clock the force goes to 25# to continue to lock! Is it indexed? and therefore need to replace the bearings or do they just need re-seated and re-torqued? |
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Daniel Meyer
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« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2012, 12:16:17 PM » |
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I would replace...follow the manual's torquing procedure EXACTLY...and then retorque at 10,000. Good for 100,000+ after that.
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CMA_Carl
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« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2012, 12:51:40 PM » |
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If you say so! Great to hear from the long timer. Just ordered them from Honda Direct line.
Thanks!
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« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2012, 01:36:00 PM » |
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thats bad, but just so you know when the bearing is indexed it click as it is moved as if it were rolling over a set of ridges.
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Rio Wil
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« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2012, 03:53:36 PM » |
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ok, thanks for all the ideas! I focused on the steering bearings. Jacked the bike up and rotated the bars lock to lock. It takes about 12# of force to start it off center and then before it gets to one a clock the force goes to 25# to continue to lock! Is it indexed? and therefore need to replace the bearings or do they just need re-seated and re-torqued? There is just something just basically amiss here......12 pounds of force to start turning and 25 pounds to continue to turn after one o'clock????? You are way too tight on this adjustment..... With my bike off the floor, just touching the handlebars will allow the wheel to flop to either side "and" the bearings are slightly indexed but there is no slack in the bearings detectable when moving the front wheel up and down. ........the bearings are original and have 165K miles. I can feel the indexing by setting the wheel dead ahead (off the ground) and slowly moving off center can feel a slight "notch". Its almost imperceptible. The point being, I think your bearings are much too tight and that should be investigated first. Also, take a look at your front tire, with bearings that tight and a almost worn out front tire.........who knows. |
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« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2012, 06:48:29 AM » |
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Tightening down on the steering head bearings to the point where the steering action is being dampened solely by the tight bearings is fraught with danger.
Even more so if there is indexing present with the bearings.
Detecting indexing with the bearings is difficult due to all of the cables and wiring going into the front end.
You cannot determine indexing with the front end un-weighted. (bike off the floor) This is because the pressure is all transferred to the opposite side of the bearings. (not the normal riding configuration)
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« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2012, 08:09:41 AM » |
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Ricky, I neglected to say that you pick up on the front wheel to slightly weight the bearings or you can pull back on the handlebars (which doesn't work well for me).....or you can slightly over tighten the bearings with the wheel off the ground (to reduce friction and increase sensitivity of feel) and feel the notches .....don't forget to re-adjust the tension though....in any case , sounds way too tight as he described it.
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« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2012, 11:27:32 AM » |
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thanks for all the good input!
I might note that i was following the procedure and checked the pulling pounds from just above the fork seals. Pulling with a wire around the fork and pulling with a spring scale.
I agree that it doesn't feel like it's notched or indexed as you'd think. I pulls smooth.... it just takes more to move it in various places.
The front tire is a avon and has about 14000 on it and looks great.
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« Reply #14 on: June 27, 2012, 06:44:02 PM » |
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These things aren't bicycles and you're not going to feel the indexing by hand unless it's horrendous....
In my experience the Valk is VERY picky about the correct torque and condition of these bearings. If they've been run loose or tight for very long, or weren't retorqued early in the life of the machine (like, 10,000 miles) then they need replaced to get them really right.
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« Reply #15 on: June 27, 2012, 09:18:04 PM » |
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Well.... put the mc tire back on.... replaced the blown shock.... and the bike still is on the verge of a wobble at around 80mph! However now i just noticed that the left fork is leaking.. blahh! Would that cause the not stable feeling at interstate speeds? Carl, I went back to your original post and it appears you've go over 100K on you bike... not a bushing cause i got rid of the factory shocks about 100000 miles ago. these are the progressive shock. and yes it's covered with oil. Just wondering if you've checked for play in your swing arm? |
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