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Author Topic: Has anyone put a shorai battery in a std Valk?  (Read 1334 times)
rajuur
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« on: June 23, 2012, 05:42:58 AM »

Just bought one, doesn't fit batt box. Waiting for recommendations from Shorai.
But wondering if it has been done. And of course your solution. Thanx.
A Shorai LFX36-3-BS12.
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MrKris
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« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2012, 05:58:42 AM »

They are very popular on the ZRX board I still visit.  Some were actually using one that was a couple of sizes smaller than what Shorai recommended so it would fit under the side cover and free up space under the seat.  The tiny battery had plenty of power to spin the motor and start it up.  This might be an option for you, look at trading it in for a smaller cased battery. 

I'm interested to hear if anybody has done this, as I would like to get one also.  It would be nice if a small one, with enough CCA for the F6, would fit under the side cover.  Or even lower down in the current location.  I could use the extra space for a fuse block terminal.
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« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2012, 09:59:01 AM »

These batts are running $250+, no?
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« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2012, 04:51:19 AM »

This one is actually @ $350. It is a LFX36L-3-BS12. 540 CCA . 36 ah
I also bought one for my CBR929RR, a different model of course.
It was smaller then the standard and came with foam shims. dropped it & went
for a ride. No problem. I contacted Shorai Friday and expect a response soon.
But of course thought if someone had actually done it with this specific batt
the solution would be a better explanation here in the forums.
BTW what does amp hours mean exactly ?
They do recommend this model and also another; I think 24ah & less cca
and I believe it is @ $275. Also it weighs @ 4.+ LBS.  both models.
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rajuur
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« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2012, 05:29:55 AM »

Wondering if all batt boxes 4 valk 1 size OR if there is one slightly diff size that could
be used. And where could I find this info? That might be a solution.
Again, THANX
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« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2012, 05:52:33 AM »


BTW what does amp hours mean exactly ?


An ampere hour (abbreviated Ah, or sometimes amp hour) is the amount of energy charge in a battery that will allow one ampere of current to flow for one hour.
Technically speaking, an amp-hour (Ah) is a unit of charge, but in practical usage, it is a unit used to describe the storage capacity of a battery.
First, here is a technical explanation of the amp-hour unit.  The unit is created by multiplying amps (a unit of current) by hours (a unit of time, obviously).  Amps are a measure of the rate of flow of charges, and so we can break the amp unit down into coulomb’s per second.  Since an hour is 3600 seconds:
the unit of Amp-hours = coulombs/second times 3600 seconds = 3600 coulombs
What does this mean for a battery?  Well, in theory, it means a 1 Amp-hour battery could provide 1 amp of current for an hour (3600 coulombs of charge), or it could provide 0.5 amps of current for two hours (still 3600 coulombs of charge), or 6 amps of current for 10 minutes (still 3600 coulombs of charge).  Also, in theory, if you know the voltage of the battery, you could determine the amount of energy that is in all of those charges.  Since a volt is a joule/coulomb, and with an Ah measurement, you know how many coulombs of charge you have, you could figure out the amount of energy stored in a battery.  For example if you have a 12 volt, 18Ah battery, the amount of energy stored in it is:
12 joules/coulomb * 18 coulombs/sec * 3600 sec = 777,600 joules
Of course, this is only true if we make several assumptions (none of which are true)
The battery voltage doesn’t change as the charge in the battery is depleted
The battery voltage doesn’t change if the load changes
All of the energy in the battery can be put to use
All of the coulombs are available no matter what kind of load you put on the battery.
In reality, the bigger the load, the lower the amp-hour rating will actually be and also as your battery is drained, the voltage output by the battery also drops.  So the amp-hour rating is really just a guide to approximately how long it will last.
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« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2012, 07:22:56 AM »

Wondering if all batt boxes 4 valk 1 size OR if there is one slightly diff size that could
be used. And where could I find this info? That might be a solution.
Again, THANX

All the battery boxes are the same size.

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« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2012, 12:44:24 PM »

BTW what does amp hours mean exactly ?


This drill has a 3.0 amp/hour battery...

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000H2P060/ref=oh_details_o05_s00_i00

This drill has a 1.4 amp/hour battery...

http://www.amazon.com/Hitachi-DS18DVF3-18-Volt-Ni-Cad-Cordless/dp/B0009HAHDO

I have the 3.0 amp/hour one, it has lots of mojo!

-Mike "amp/hours = mojo"
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« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2012, 08:53:44 PM »

This one is actually @ $350               Shocked           Undecided             coolsmiley            2funny
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« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2012, 07:55:05 PM »

Here is the link to Shoria's 6 different battery sizes (dimensionaly). CCA's, Left or Right positive posts, etc.

http://www.shoraipower.com/downloads/lfxspecs.pdf


Here is all there different batteries, and their cost.

http://www.shoraipower.com/c-1-batteries.aspx

Here is the Yuasa battery for the Valk, and it's size.
http://www.yuasabatteries.com/motorcycle.php?action=showListing#formanchor
150mm x 87mm x 145mm

Just look under the different sizes of Shoria batteries for one the same size or less, compare the CCA so you have same of better that your OEM battery has, maybe even choose a larger CCA battery that will fit.

Looks like case # 1, 2, 4 & 6 should fit within the dimensons of the OEM battery.

Nothing wrong with getting a battery physicaly smaller than the OEM battery, but with the same CCA. The Ah is how much battery life for things like the radio when you are not running the motor charging the battery (or how long you can crank the engine for, before you run out of juice).
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