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Author Topic: Alternator died, MARS to the rescue  (Read 1983 times)
Oyeaa
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« on: June 23, 2012, 11:41:43 AM »

Thursday my bike started acting weird, Dash flickering on and off and speedometer  and Tach jumping and falling to zero, started missing and then died.  Nothing left to even think about engaging the starter relay.  Let it sit far a few hours in the parking lot near where it died.  Then fired it up 9barely) and road it home about 3 miles.  Checked it out and the alternator was bad.  A little searching here on the board and I decided to go with MARS, Ken lives about an hour away which was a bonus, no waiting for the delivery man.  I bought his refurbished (stock) upgraded to High Output.  Pulling it out and getting it back in was not as bad as I feared, based on the other posts, but no walk in the park either.  Working fine now, and so far seems to keep up with the over-sized headlights and over-sized fog-lights while idling which the original never managed to do at idle, only at highway speeds.  Ken popped open my old one as soon as I handed it to him and sure enough the rotor field had an open in it.  I had a hard time finding this info so hopefully re-posting it will add value to a future search attempt.

http://myplace.frontier.com/~hemi-roid/

http://mysite.verizon.net/resp3jbj/

KEN HEMING
3701 E. 69TH. AVE.
MERRILLVILLE, IN.
46410-3963
219-947-4038
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old2soon
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« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2012, 12:09:42 PM »

There is a M A R S standard rebuilt on my I/S right now. coolsmiley Ken I M H O is good people to do business with. cooldude RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2012, 08:45:56 AM »


Oyeaa - is your rebuilt alternator quiet, or does it emit a "whirring" sound that the
previous one didn't?

-Mike
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« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2012, 10:42:08 AM »

Inquiring Minds would like to know if your MARS alternator replacement whines or not.
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Ricky-D
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« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2012, 12:07:59 PM »

I wouldn't put that on Ken at all. Namely having it be a MARS alternator.

He does use your old alternator to rebuild.

He also tests them for workability but it's doubtful he does a sound check on them.

There can be many various reasons for a operation noise from the alternator and not necessarily the fault of the rebuilder.

And Ken will absolutely make it right regardless.

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« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2012, 04:04:26 PM »

Sorry in advance but feeling like MARS is being unfairly labeled so I am kinda reacting a little. tickedoff

Q. Does it make more noise than the stock?
A. Most certainly.

Q. Did I pay the full stock replacement cost?
A.  Nope a fraction.

Q. Is the MARS alternator going to fail from a manufacturing defect?
A.  Hopefully not it was rewound in the USA, and rebuilt by an American I have shaken hands with.

Q.  Did any of my dollars go to a foreign manufacturer that built a faulty alternator the first time around?
A.  Nope.

Q. Going forward will my battery chronically undercharged when the bike is driven at low RPM's for extended time?
A.  It certainly appears that that issue is resolved.  My battery is so fully charged it now cranks over like the spark plugs have been removed!

Q.  Does the bike make any other annoying minor noises that we just accept?
A.  Yup, Timing belts and valve train plus drive train noises are the top of those noises.

Some folks, perhaps many folks, seem overly concerned about a minor alternator noise from a bike that:

a. Sings like a sewing machine due to the timing belts and valve train. 
b.  Has transmission noise that a lot of folks complain about and want to cover up with sound dampening material on the inside of the chrome aftermarket covers or use brand XYZ oil believing it is made the noise better.

In my mind it is a minor tradeoff for a low cost High Output alternator that allows me to keep twin 100 watt headlights and 100 watt fog lights illuminated without draining the battery when driving around town at low RPM's.  Also, the quieter stock alternator that I had failed due to a known manufacturing defect that can cause any one of our wonderful bikes to leave us stranded at any time.  Being stranded is definitely something which I am unaccustomed to on such a fine motorcycle.  Besides compared to most bikes on the road ours although "noisy" are still actually relatively silent.

IMHO the minor alternator "whine" can only be heard when I am specifically listening to it parked and idling.  At normal road speed all the other noises including wind noise and the stereo being cranked nearly full blast pretty much make it a non-issue.  I notice now that when parked unless listening specifically near the alternator I cannot hear it over the sewing machine noise when standing near the bike idling with stock exhaust.  Anyone with a modified exhaust would be hard pressed to hear it at all without putting their head near the alternator.

Thanks again Ken cooldude
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old2soon
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« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2012, 04:20:52 PM »

And on the noise note. crazy2 The M A R S rebuilt is queiter than the original i took off. Wink Bat as was stated above-if it were noisy-how much noisier than the engine and tranny and belts and in my case cut piggies and last baffle drilled. Cheesy And i get a 1 full year replacement warranty. cooldude RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2012, 08:20:59 PM »

Crank up the stereo and ride!
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« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2012, 03:31:11 PM »

Is this alternator whine?.........

October 4, 2011 10:15 PMpowered by Aeva


It's a buddy's '08 Wing.  It's sounded like that since he's had it (used with about 4000 on it when he got it). 
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« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2012, 07:37:57 PM »

I dont find any of those noises disturbing....you wanna hear noise? Come ride my Road Star. You'll think the pistons are swapping holes!! My sons valk whines...I kinda like it...sounds like a turbine engine! 2funny

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