No shot fired opinion?

[Robert]

President Bush has in one sweep without the consideration of anyone signed the North American Free trade agreement which takes away the Sovereignty of the US. We have been seeing changes lately that are geared to changing the very foundation of the government and society, to take away the very footing this country was founded on. I am not asking this question to talk about God but to ask do you think the government is doing these changes and making moves to bring the 2 nations together for the North American Union? It couldn't be done without the change from the US foundations they are so radically different than Canada and Mexico's founding is really not a issue. But the fact that Canada was founded on the Crown the very thing the US wanted to separate from is this the conforming of the US without a shot fired? I wanted your opinions.

As a federal monarchy, the Canadian Crown is unitary throughout all jurisdictions in the country, with the headship of state being a part of all equally. As such, the sovereignty of the each is passed on not by the governor general or federal parliament, but through the overreaching Crown itself as a part of the executive, legislative, and judicial operations in Canada's


Mayflower Compact1620 IN THE NAME OF GOD, AMEN. We, whose names are underwritten, the Loyal Subjects of our dread Sovereign Lord King James, by the Grace of God, of Great Britain, France, and Ireland, King, Defender of the Faith, etc. Having undertaken for the Glory of God, and Advancement of the Christian Faith, and the Honor of our King and Country, a Voyage to plant the first Colony in the northern Parts of Virginia;

[bscrive]

Robert,

You have a lot to learn about Canada.  The monarchy does not have any 'real' power here in Canada.  The Prime Minister, Senate and the House of Commons have the power, just like your President, House of Representatives and Senate.  We do hold to our roots and most of us do like the monarchy but we are not ruled by them. 

As for the free Trade deal, it is widely disliked by Canadians because we feel that we were sold out to the US by Mulroney (our then Prime Minister) and these days we would like the terms renegotiated, especially for the oil and softwood lumber.

[Robert]

Robert,

You have a lot to learn about Canada.  The monarchy does not have any 'real' power here in Canada.  The Prime Minister, Senate and the House of Commons have the power, just like your President, House of Representatives and Senate.  We do hold to our roots and most of us do like the monarchy but we are not ruled by them. 

As for the free Trade deal, it is widely disliked by Canadians because we feel that we were sold out to the US by Mulroney (our then Prime Minister) and these days we would like the terms renegotiated, especially for the oil and softwood lumber.

Thanks I probably do that is one reason for asking but Canada didn't really separate itself till 1982
   No Act of the Parliament of the United Kingdom passed after the Constitution Act, 1982 comes into force shall extend to Canada as part of its law.
  This also applied the French, but I personally believe that the greater powers have already set the course and its just a matter of time.

[Robert]

George Washington's farewell address WOW I never read it! Look at this one paragraph how intense.

The unity of government which constitutes you one people is also now dear to you. It is justly so, for it is a main pillar in the edifice of your real independence, the support of your tranquility at home, your peace abroad; of your safety; of your prosperity; of that very liberty which you so highly prize. But as it is easy to foresee that, from different causes and from different quarters, much pains will be taken, many artifices employed to weaken in your minds the conviction of this truth; as this is the point in your political fortress against which the batteries of internal and external enemies will be most constantly and actively (though often covertly and insidiously) directed, it is of infinite moment that you should properly estimate the immense value of your national union to your collective and individual happiness; that you should cherish a cordial, habitual, and immovable attachment to it; accustoming yourselves to think and speak of it as of the palladium of your political safety and prosperity; watching for its preservation with jealous anxiety; discountenancing whatever may suggest even a suspicion that it can in any event be abandoned; and indignantly frowning upon the first dawning of every attempt to alienate any portion of our country from the rest, or to enfeeble the sacred ties which now link together the various parts.

[Charlie McCready]

President BUSH ????

[RainMaker]

December 8 1993
   

Bill Clinton signs NAFTA into law -- December 8, 1993	powered by Aeva

The North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) is signed into law by President Bill Clinton. Clinton said he hoped the agreement would encourage other nations to work toward a broader world-trade pact.

NAFTA, a trade pact between the United States, Canada, and Mexico, eliminated virtually all tariffs and trade restrictions between the three nations. The passage of NAFTA was one of Clinton's first major victories as the first Democratic president in 12 years--though the movement for free trade in North America had begun as a Republican initiative.

During its planning stages, NAFTA was heavily criticized by Reform Party presidential candidate Ross Perot, who argued that if NAFTA was passed, Americans would hear a "giant sucking sound" of American companies fleeing the United States for Mexico, where employees would work for less pay and without benefits. The pact, which took effect on January 1, 1994, created the world's largest free-trade zone.

[musclehead]

oh yeah? well it's bush's fault anyway. 

lets learn the history of the country. as Santana once said "those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

[big d]

and the blame bush party continues.  i think i am going to start blaming him for having a bad day since he is getting blamed for just about everything else...

[musclehead]

and the blame bush party continues.  i think i am going to start blaming him for having a bad day since he is getting blamed for just about everything else...

he wasn't the best president ever, but not the worst either.

[RainMaker]

oh yeah? well it's bush's fault anyway. 

lets learn the history of the country. as Santana once said "those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

The worst thing Bush did was mess with that intern Monica Lewinsky while working that illegal land deal in Arkansas.  

[Charlie McCready]

"The worst thing Bush did was mess with that intern Monica Lewinsky while working that illegal land deal in Arkansas. "

LMAO !! 

[Patrick]

ROTFLMAO !!  Doesn't President Bush have Monica's blue dress in a vault, just in case..


It is surprising though the number of arguments,, errr,, disagreements,, I've had with some that are absolutely certain NAFTA, along with everything else, was Bush's fault..

[Valkernaut]

I thought it was Perot that signed that, right after that remark about a "great sucking sound"!

[sugerbear]

the thought Clinton was some how involved with that "giant sucking sound"
could be wrong though.

[musclehead]

oh yeah? well it's bush's fault anyway. 

lets learn the history of the country. as Santana once said "those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

The worst thing Bush did was mess with that intern Monica Lewinsky while working that illegal land deal in Arkansas.  

I kinda remember that differently 

[Robert]

This is not really about who signed it, this is, do you see a concerted effort in the changing of our laws the removing of God from our country changing of policies to make this happen since the US and Canada have very different basis in how they were formed?  This is not a one president or one person deal. I think with health care and putting us in debt that maybe this is the motive that drives Obama. Because I surely haven't seen Congress or any president as of late actually showing any care about people.

NORTH AMERICAN UNION EXPOSED on Lou Dobbs w/ Marcy Kaptur & Bill Tucker	powered by Aeva

[Patrick]

You can't change/confuse the subject on us.. Read your very first sentence.. It sure appears to me that your history is a bit blurry and you were trying to blame it on President Bush.. Or,, did I misread something ??

[Robert]

You can't change/confuse the subject on us.. Read your very first sentence.. It sure appears to me that your history is a bit blurry and you were trying to blame it on President Bush.. Or,, did I misread something ??

Are we changing from a God centered society to a secular one in order to accommodate the North America Union? Canada is a secular society, US was a God centered society. BC/AD compared to BCE/CE. Health care in Canada, now maybe US. Gay marriage accepted in Canada now in US. Do you see our country changing to the same laws as Canada for a designed purpose and do you think our presidents are working for this goal. Lying all the way. We see so much that has changed in our society since about 1960 that its amazing. Do you realize that history books are NOT telling the truth about this country.That the respect isn't there for parents that the government now has more rights to your kids than you do. That without a shred of evidence you can go to jail on abuse or molestation charges. That you by law cannot grow your own food and by law cannot even sell homegrown food. We were a Republic. Looking for thoughts on this to heck with the presidents

The man who has no sense of history, is like a man who has no ears or eyes"
- Adolf Hitler

"When an opponent declares, "I will not come over to your side," I calmly say, "Your child belongs to us already... What are you? You will pass on. Your descendants, however, now stand in the new camp. In a short time they will know nothing else but this new community."
- Adolph Hitler

[Gryphon Rider]

Universal health care - definitely one of the symptoms of a godless society.  If God had wanted me to survive heart disease or have an artificial joint, he would have made me rich!