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Author Topic: tomorrow is the big day for 'Obamacare'  (Read 2931 times)
G-Man
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« Reply #40 on: June 29, 2012, 10:41:08 AM »



The country already had all of the above,.....

If that were true, then why are medical costs one of the leading causes of bankruptcy in this country?  And by the way, bankruptcy is just another way that additional costs are passed on to the rest of us through more avenues than just health care costs.

How will this change with this law?  If you have a dime available, it will have to go towards your healthcare.  The IRS will go through your books and determine that you don't need to live in a 4 bedroom house now that the kids are gone, and if you downsize, now you can afford health insurance.  And then they'll take a percentage of the profit on your real estate transaction.   Just like public assistance now, you have to actually need it to get on it (supposedly).  With this law, the same will be true.  You won't get anything until you can't afford it on your own (expanding Medicade).  Nobody is getting anything for free. 
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john
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« Reply #41 on: June 29, 2012, 11:36:16 AM »

 " Nobody is getting anything for free. "                        coolsmiley
                pure    stupidity 
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Patrick
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« Reply #42 on: June 29, 2012, 11:53:51 AM »

 " Nobody is getting anything for free. "                       
                pure    stupidity


Now that needs an explanation.. coolsmiley  It can mean any number of things to me..
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musclehead
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« Reply #43 on: June 29, 2012, 01:32:17 PM »

Liberalism truly is a mental disorder. Their mantra being I want it, I don't care what you think so we'll force our beliefs onto you.

Puh-lease!  Roll Eyes  And this is different from conservatism how?? 

The ACA is NOT a Liberal Plan.  Let's not forget that this idea of an individual mandate is a conservative idea put forth by the republicans and originally supported by the Heritage Foundation and most reps in congress as the alternative to Hillary-care back in the 90's.  The only reason we even have this type of health care law is because the dems moved so far to the right to try and get a few rep votes from those who had very recently supported the idea.  And that is the reason there are so many that oppose the law.  Conservatives don't like it because the Dems passed it (even though it was their idea and they liked it very much a few years ago) and Liberals don't like it because it is too conservative.

I have mixed emotions about whether I want it to be overturned or not.  On one hand, I don't like the law because I'd prefer a real overhaul of our health insurance system like single-payer, or at least the "Public Option".  Furthermore, letting it stand will make it even harder to move in that direction.  However, I, and over 70% of Americans according to a recent poll, like many of the aspects of the law like elimination of pre-existing conditions, lifetime maximums, minimum standards, etc. and don't want to go back to the way it was and view the law as better than nothing.  And since I don't have any confidence that a better alternative can get done with this congress, I hope it stands.

the original support for mandating healthcare by conservatives was thought of as personal responcibility. when looking closer it was revealed as taking a persons liberty by making them buy a product. that is when they left the support for government ran healthcare.
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