deez
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« on: June 28, 2012, 10:47:35 AM » |
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I just installed a belly tank before a long road trip (well worth the cost and effort!) however I still ran out of gas (luckly i had a back up plan) I had done the valve conversion as showen in the manual but i had no res. when I tried switching the valve. It had all gone to the belly tank. My first question is do you still need to install the vac. line to the valve ?( i did on mine) i don't know if maybe I did something wrong when I mod. the valve (instructions were pretty straight forward) any advice?
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« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2012, 12:08:13 PM » |
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Wow, how far did you get before you ran out?
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« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2012, 05:45:43 PM » |
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no,you don't need vac at the valve anymore.I only get about .5-.7 gal. out of the reserve now because the fill pipe for the belly tank is a little lower than the reserve pipe.still the best mod you can put on a valk  bw |
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X Ring
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« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2012, 05:48:50 PM » |
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When you did the petcock mod you converted the petcock to manual operation so no vacuum line is needed. Did you have the petcock set to on? If you had it set to reserve then the fuel would run through. It would be simple to check. Turn the petcock off and remove the line to the belly tank. Install some more fuel line on the nipple and run it into a gas can. Turn the petcock to on and wait for the fuel to flow into the can. When the flow stops, turn the petcock to reserve. If fuel flows, your petcock should be fine. If it doesn't, your petcock is faulty and you need to repair or replace it.
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« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2012, 05:51:10 PM » |
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Can you install the belly tank and keep your Rivco center stand? Is there room for both?
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« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2012, 07:30:01 PM » |
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Can you install the belly tank and keep your Rivco center stand? Is there room for both?
I don't think so. Check the R&M site to verify: http://www.rmworksinc.com/Information.html |
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« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2012, 07:37:55 PM » |
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I had a similar problem when I ran out of gas with a belly tank--- there is a small rubber diaphram in the petcock... that has to be taken out and reversed. Once you do that, it allows the break in the vacuum pressure and gas can flow freely into the lower tank through the really small hose coming off the bottom of the petcock.
Also, if you do run out of gas while riding and need to go on to reserve... it's best to pull off the road for 2 minutes... turn on the reserve and wait for enough gas to fall down into the lower tank before heading out again...
Just stuff I learned from personal experience.
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deez
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« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2012, 09:07:11 PM » |
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I had previously driven a test drive and the reserve worked (at least it seemed to) I hit about 188 miles before it started to "run funny" switched on the reserve and it started to run better, but never great. got home and found "gunk" in the float bowls. I cleaned out the system (thought maybe due to our hoser damn ethenol fuel we have to put up with here, that maybe some crap was knocked off of the new tank as I had no problems before) anyway, cleaned everything, and just in case, installed new slow jets. seemed to run better, but just to be sure I ran three tanks of fuel thru it with techron added. ran great across kansas untill just outside of Russel when the trip o read 187 she just flat died, you got , completely empty. switched the valve to reserve ,nada. everything was bone dry. soooo..... am i just unlucky or should I have had better results? Re filled the bike and was on my way, but my normal limit before the belly tank was to hit res. at approx 130. so I'm at a bit of a lost for answers  |
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« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2012, 09:35:35 PM » |
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My Tourer hits reserve about 240-250 miles so yeah you do have some problems. I also have a Pingel petcock but I had the stock one first. I had a catastrophic failure with it. That's why I changed to the Pingel. It's without a doubt the better petcock.
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« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2012, 04:47:56 AM » |
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Deez,
I too just installed the belly tank and have had the same issue. Mine does not seem to have much of a reserve and when the fuel gets low it seems it doesnt run well. I also have new 38's. I plugged the vaccuum line.
I plan on digging into it as soon as the temp fallls below 105 here in Lees Summit. If I figure it out I will let you know.
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deez
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« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2012, 06:42:47 AM » |
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Small World! I'm in Lee's Summit also! let's put our heads together and maybe we can get this figured out! pm me for my phone number.  |
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« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2012, 08:13:28 AM » |
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I had the same problem one time. I had extended the fuel line from the fuel valve to the belly tank to simplify the removal of the gas tank. After a couple of mos, I was running out at 180 miles or so and the reserve didn't work well. Also, I could only get 5- 6 gal of gas in when fueling. The problem was that after sitting in the heat, the longer fuel hose had developed a kink that blocked air and reserve fuel flow to the belly tank.
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« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2012, 11:25:45 AM » |
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I also installed the tank this winter, My reserve works. It does take 10+sec for the gas to hit the pump and then get to the carbs. I get about 20+miles from reserve.
My max distance is 240mile, with a standard tank.
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« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2012, 09:24:22 PM » |
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I run a belly tank to about 175 miles then switch reserve because all my gasoline left (not including reserve_)is only in the belly tank already plus I know that I will be stopping before the 235-240 miles.
After 3-4 hours of riding its time to stop and stretch my legs anyways.
I thinks adding the belly tank is the best improvement to the bike you can do.
just my .02
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deez
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« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2012, 07:04:03 AM » |
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Well looking over the responses, it looks like my problem is a mileage issue. doing the math I was getting 25mpg. looks like its time to dig into the carbs.the float level is not adjustable. going to 38 slow jets should not have knocked the mileage down that far, so I think I need to check the main jet size and where the needles are set.  |
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« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2012, 11:29:39 AM » |
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Maybe your mixture is set too rich
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« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2012, 12:12:11 PM » |
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 DUH! I got into my carbs and 1. the needles had been shimmed by the previous owner, 2 . the pilots screws were set to 3 turns out and 3. I had knocked off the vaccum line to the petcock causing an air leak. total = one marginally running bike. Amazing just how forgiving these beast are. While it idled a bit rough once off idle you would never have known it had issues (except poor mileage) can't wait to see what the mileage will be now!
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« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2012, 12:17:25 PM » |
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 And Marty you may have hit the answer on the head, I may well have miss set the valve switch to res. instead of on. With all the semi's blowing by me 4 feet away I didn't really take the time to think it through, I just started switching it back and forth to try and get off the road without getting run over!!
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« Reply #18 on: June 30, 2012, 02:32:52 PM » |
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You need to cap the #6 cylinder vacuum nipple. You can find 4mm or 5/32 vacuum caps at the parts store. Call around so your not driving around looking. Not every parts store has that size in stock.
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« Reply #19 on: June 30, 2012, 09:03:31 PM » |
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 Actually, I have installed an Audiovox CCS-100 cruise control earlier and all six ports run to a res. to power the servo. so all I did was cap off the fitting from the res.to the petcock. Thats one of the things that had me stumped because the cruise control was still working, so I did not suspect a vaccum leak.
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