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Well with your new Pres and Gaithner going into the car business, who is gonna buy a new Chrysler or GM vehicle? Just curious
Ride safe Robert
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« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2009, 04:23:30 PM » |
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Glad I already did, before they start messing with the product ....
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« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2009, 05:15:24 PM » |
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I'll never buy new anyway. My 04 Z-71 ia still running, so i'll stick with it.
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« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2009, 05:18:55 PM » |
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I'm thinking Ford!  OK, I probably won't be buying a car for years since I just bought an Infiniti (used 2003) last Dec 31. I like to keep a car 10 yrs plus to get my moneys' worth. But, if I were buying, I would look for something Ford has because they seem to have managed their business a lot better than GM or Chrysler. jmo 
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« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2009, 05:21:28 PM » |
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Fudgie..... an 04 is still new by Duct Tape's standards.... his Z 71 is a 95 with a gozillion miles on it...... he WILL NOT part with it and I WILL NOT ride in it! 
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« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2009, 05:40:55 PM » |
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I'm happy in my gas sucking 97 137,000 mile 4x4 Tahoe. I've had it since 98 and 100,000 miles. Would like a Madza 3 twin turbo pocket rocket. OR the Ford Escort RS if it ever makes it here from Europe OR the Jaguar XFR  diesel if it ever makes it here from Europe.
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« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2009, 05:41:52 PM » |
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Fudgie..... an 04 is still new by Duct Tape's standards.... his Z 71 is a 95 with a gozillion miles on it...... he WILL NOT part with it and I WILL NOT ride in it!  LOL I know how it is. I had a 85 Chevy 1/2 ton I liked alot better then my old 01 z-71. It was rusty as all get out and got 10 mpg. Got divorced and both are gone now.
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« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2009, 06:05:21 PM » |
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Have a Honda Pilot and will never buy another American made vehicle until they figure out that quality is more important than anything else!! I will pay more for quality, don't care who makes it!!
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« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2009, 06:15:34 PM » |
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if i couldn't come up with something better to do with  thirty grand then to buy some p o s "new " car i'd kill myself ...
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« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2009, 07:16:55 PM » |
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Looking forward to the new models from the same folks that brought you that well run transportation icon, AmTrak! 
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« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2009, 08:27:43 PM » |
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Not me. Or Ford either. I've owned them all...never again! Been driving Nissan's since '88. My current one is a '94 Maxima, bought it used in '96, got 150,000 miles and still handles and rides like new. The exterior is starting to age. When the time comes to buy another car, it will either be Nissan, Subaru or Honda. My thoughts are the same as Chillerman's.
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« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2009, 08:43:13 PM » |
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My other ride is a 90 model blazer 4 wheel drive with 300k on it. That is why I ride the valk almost all the time.
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« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2009, 04:19:55 AM » |
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We just bought a new VW Diesel Jetta. The Green Car of the Year. Did not buy because of that though. We get 36-44mpg highway. Hauled a trailer with my Valkyrie in it from ND to Florida this Jan for some riding before the Daytona 500 race. For the 4000+ mile round trip, car was brand new, we got 26mpg. And that was at full interstate speed, not a slowed down for fuel economy figure. I think that is pretty good. Lots of power too. Only shifted down on Montegale. Smoking Joe will know about that! We are pleased. The 40+mpg is as good as, or better, than some of the hybreds out there. I also have a 97 Dodge Diesel 3/4t, with 225,000 mostly farm miles on it. A 98 Chevy high top Conversion van with 350 gas, pulls a 26' Airstream, and it has 265,000 miles on it, and the engine and tranny have never been opened up. Have replaced a couple rear end brgs though! I think that is great on a 350, always with a heavy haul. MP
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« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2009, 04:46:19 AM » |
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I have a 2005 Toyota Highlander, bought used, with 60k miles, I'm keeping it. I also have a 1999 Mazda Miata, bought used, with 56k miles on it, I'm keeping it too.
Now, since the government practically owns both Chyrsler and GM, they will mandate what cars to make and how to make them. Production and management involved with these cars will be the done by "Green" fanatics, lawyers (politicians), and bureaucrats. The good old US of A is done as a manufacturing giant!
Example of this is the electric car right now. The electric car is be being touted by these same people helped by a totally inept mass media. Unfortunately, energy must be used to do work. How are we going to generate the electrical energy necessary to "charge" these "green" car batteries? Wind Power, solar power? We won't be able to use that nasty dirty burning coal and nuclear power plants are out.
Maybe we better invest our money in Schwinn bicycles. Oh, I forgot, Schwinn is out too, taken over by Who knows Who.
In my 81 years, I've never seen anything like this. The Federal government now has more power than it did in WWII.
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« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2009, 04:59:28 AM » |
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It fits into history well. Historically, democracies only have lasted about 200 years, then the people have reached the "do it for me" stage and the govt gets too much power. Nowhere in the Constitution does it say anything about telling us what to think ...
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« Reply #15 on: June 02, 2009, 07:13:28 AM » |
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if we own 60% of the company. I for one want a company car. Maybe a Caddy. Shortleg[Dave]
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« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2009, 08:08:27 AM » |
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It's a story of a business, that takes billions of it's investors money, invested it and spent it incorrectly (and most probably fraudulantly), then it's investments turn to crap and now they don't have to repay the investors what they've lost. The company is not General Motors....It is the United States Government. They took our money, without asking us, invested billions in a failing business that ultimately went banckrupt. And they didn't do it once....they've done it several times. Why are we allowing this continue? If your broker kept investing your after taxed money in failing businesses and you kept losing, you kick him to the curb. Why are we letting the Government do it with our taxes? The Government has proven over and over again that it is a terrible business entity. They've historically have over spent on everything from hammers to bailouts. Again, why do we continue to allow this?
I'll tell you why........because our 'representatives' couldn't care less what we think. I have e-mailed all of my reps, asking them to please stop the bleeding. The only thing I've gotten is a auto generated, generic e-mail reply. Unfortunately I live in a very democratic state.
I'm sorry to say that too many citizens don't understand the consequences of what our President promised during his campaign. He has created more of a feeling of entitlement for services that the government should never be providing in the first place (remember the old woman begging him for a car, and the burger flipper asking him for more benefits).
How is it possible to only tax 5% of the population to make up for the trillions spent? I'll tell you........states and local principalities will received less money and services from the government, which in turn will raise property and school taxes (increasing rents and leases), sales tax, gas tax, fun tax (fishing license, motorcycle registration fees, etc.), business taxes and fees which will lead to higher prices (with higher sales taxes). Brace yourselves for some awful inflation folks.
I have never heard talk of the end of our empire before. Now, it's all I hear.
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« Reply #17 on: June 02, 2009, 08:53:13 AM » |
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How is it possible to only tax 5% of the population to make up for the trillions spent? I'll tell you........states and local principalities will received less money and services from the government, which in turn will raise property and school taxes (increasing rents and leases), sales tax, gas tax, fun tax (fishing license, motorcycle registration fees, etc.), business taxes and fees which will lead to higher prices (with higher sales taxes). Brace yourselves for some awful inflation folks.
Exactly, Texas is already raising fishing license and boat registration fees, I'm sure the other fees will follow... Good thing I sold my hole in the water 3 yrs ago...
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« Reply #18 on: June 02, 2009, 09:46:25 AM » |
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Have a Honda Pilot and will never buy another American made vehicle until they figure out that quality is more important than anything else!! I will pay more for quality, don't care who makes it!!
I agree 100% with chillerman. my first car was a toyota corolla, put on 130k miles, went deer hunting with it, got myself a nice buck, sadly at the cost of the car, never ever had any problems with that car. as for a chevy or chrysler, sorry, no can do.... own two fords now, 99windstar 01 f150, set for afew more years....
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« Reply #19 on: June 02, 2009, 10:45:29 AM » |
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« Reply #21 on: June 02, 2009, 01:33:23 PM » |
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Ha! Reading all this, and here I was thinkin about buying a bunch for 75 cent GM stock! Figure I would make a bunch o' money on it in about four or five years!!
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« Reply #22 on: June 02, 2009, 04:27:53 PM » |
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Ha! Reading all this, and here I was thinkin about buying a bunch for 75 cent GM stock! Figure I would make a bunch o' money on it in about four or five years!!
Cheap can always get cheaper!
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« Reply #23 on: June 02, 2009, 04:29:32 PM » |
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Ha! Reading all this, and here I was thinkin about buying a bunch for 75 cent GM stock! Figure I would make a bunch o' money on it in about four or five years!!
You could paper the walls of your recreation room with the certificates! 
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« Reply #24 on: June 02, 2009, 05:00:34 PM » |
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Left the country for a few days and the gov't takes over. Can't find good help these days. Course, while I was gone my investment grew very well. I keep my money where I can keep an eye on it, just above my belt line. Freedom of the Seas is not only the world's largest cruise liner but in my estimation has the largest buffet I've ever stood in line at. http://www.royalcaribbean.com/findacruise/ships/ship/decks/deck/home.do?deckCode=11&shipCode=FR&shipProfile=1161&sailDate=1090607&hasNavigation=falsethe Plaza Bar, Jade Restaurant and Windjammer are all one gigantic buffet. They put them in the back of the ship and the fitness center in the front. By the time you get though pigging out it is impossible to make your way forward in the wind. I ended up just giving up and laying out by the pool doing bikini inspections. I was forced into the job. The other fellow was blind and got all beat up.
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« Reply #25 on: June 02, 2009, 06:52:47 PM » |
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If Chrysler would get off their arse and put a Hemi in the Dakota, I'd buy one tomorrow........... Don't have a need for a full size Ram, and or enough room in my front garage for one either........
Would save me the trouble of trying to find a computer for the Hemi engine I have out of a Patrol car, that hopefully will be in my Dakota sometime this year. Like a dumb assed fool, never even thought about the computer when I bought the engine........ When they made the Patrol Cars, they built the computers, after they sold a bunch to PD's, they quit making that computer box...
These computers are not available from Chrysler Corp anymore. So, I have to find another wrecked Patrol car that they will sell the computer seperately. The salvage yards are getting wise to the cmbination and will not seperate them..... Right now I know of where 10 wrecked Patrol cars are in the US.... The one that my engine came out of was crushed, or squished into a small square block. Supposedly computer was still in the car.......
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« Reply #26 on: June 02, 2009, 10:52:54 PM » |
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I'm a Ford guy, I'll keep my F150 and my wife's Lincoln forever, 155K on the p/u, 136K on the Lincoln, both run like new.  Hoser
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« Reply #27 on: June 03, 2009, 11:11:33 AM » |
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Who in their right mind would buy an american car that only lasts for 100,00 to 300,00 miles.  .MEEEEEEEEEE.......  ...JB.
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« Reply #28 on: June 03, 2009, 12:14:57 PM » |
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I don't claim to know anything about it, but I overheard someone comment that the Hummer is already a p.o.s. ready made for Chinese distribution. I reckon all it needs is a coat of lead paint and some carcinogenic seat covers and it will be ready for US soccer moms to ferry their one child around in.
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« Reply #29 on: June 04, 2009, 07:54:19 PM » |
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I think you are right the foreign cars may be better,after all the Americans thought them how to build them.I bought my Caddy with 160,000 miles on it in 2001 and it only has two hundred and seventy five thousand on it now.I sure wish it would stop running so i could have an excuse to buy a new one.
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« Reply #30 on: June 04, 2009, 08:35:22 PM » |
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Here is some news that you might have never have heard of.In august of 2001 one month before 911,Toyota and Honda bragged about how they recorded record sales over G.M and Ford,but when it came down to showing their true colors the only ones to come forward with help was GM with 10 million Ford with 10 million Chrysler with fifteen million,Harley Davidson with three million and 30 motor cycles for the fire dept.and the only foreign car company V.W. with three hundred thousand. Who would have known,have a nice day.
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« Reply #31 on: June 04, 2009, 08:46:27 PM » |
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Here is some news that you might have never have heard of.In august of 2001 one month before 911,Toyota and Honda bragged about how they recorded record sales over G.M and Ford,but when it came down to showing their true colors the only ones to come forward with help was GM with 10 million Ford with 10 million Chrysler with fifteen million,Harley Davidson with three million and 30 motor cycles for the fire dept.and the only foreign car company V.W. with three hundred thousand. Who would have known,have a nice day.
Not true - http://www.snopes.com/rumors/automakers.asp
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« Reply #32 on: June 05, 2009, 04:49:25 PM » |
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Thanks for the information ,i will check on a rumor before i spread it around,I hope my apology is accepted. Huckleberry
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« Reply #33 on: June 05, 2009, 04:53:46 PM » |
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Thanks for the information ,i will check on a rumor before i spread it around,I hope my apology is accepted. Huckleberry
No apology required, thanks for not attacking the messenger! 
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