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Dr Vodka
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« on: July 22, 2012, 10:08:32 PM »

Hey folks, here I am...yet again.

I am planing to change my orange turn signal indicators on my std to clear. Can anybody put links here with the kind of bulb (red color) I would need? Would want to go with LEDs unless they do not require any modification with the bike (e.g. adding load or putting a logic board). I want to keep my tail light as is.

Thank you.

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« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2012, 08:02:12 AM »

These aren't LEDs but standard 1156 or 1157 in red.  Kuryakyn made them and I bought them from DennisKirk.com.  I've used them for two years now, direct replacement, no modifications to anything.   I'd rather have red lenses with white bulbs, but nobody sells the red lenses, at least I can't find them.  I'm running a "Back-Off" turn signal, brake light set-up, which gives me three brake lights.  PM me and I'll find the part numbers if you want.

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« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2012, 08:11:34 AM »

I put clear lenses and "chrome" bulbs on my ZRX when I had it.  It looked cool, but the chrome coating on the bulbs cut the light output down quite a bit.  So, either go with a LED or stick with the colored lenses.  Either way, I would avoid using the chrome bulbs.
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« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2012, 09:59:15 AM »

. . . .  I'd rather have red lenses with white bulbs, but nobody sells the red lenses, at least I can't find them. . . .
Dan


Try googling: Clear Alternatives CTS-0020-RR  or CTS-0021-R-R

The CTS-0020-RR is red with one screw, while the CTS-0021-R-R has the two screws.

Phat Performance Parts currently shows both as in stock.

Or, for the one screw option, you can try this ebay ad.

Not affiliated with either (or Clear Alternatives).

Sorry for the hijack.
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« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2012, 02:15:55 PM »

Hey folks, here I am...yet again.

I am planing to change my orange turn signal indicators on my std to clear. Can anybody put links here with the kind of bulb (red color) I would need? Would want to go with LEDs unless they do not require any modification with the bike (e.g. adding load or putting a logic board). I want to keep my tail light as is.

Thank you.

PS: All fortunate folks at InZane; enjoy your good life.


You can usually find clear lenes on ebay for fairly cheap.

If you put in leds you'll need a load equilizer.  You can find a direct plug and play on Big Bike Parts site. 

http://www.bigbikeparts.com/Inventory/Navision/13-306?catalogNo=1

I'm not sure of red bulbs (or red leds) for the turns though....never seen any (haven't looked for 'em either)......but if you want red lenes instead of clear, there's a guy on ebay that puts up sets of clear lenes that he paints with clear/candy red model paint from time to time.  Or, you could paint them yourself with model paint. 

Another option you can use and still have clear lenes (but still retain your yellow turns) is to install a set of red run/brake/turn leds from Electrical Connection. 

http://www.electricalconnection.com/other-lighting/tsk-std.htm

You won't need to install a seperate load equalizer with the Electrical connection set. 

Here's a sample video to give you an idea.....

Turn signal conversion on Honda Furypowered by Aeva


Not the best pics.....but here it is on my bike.....




I tried a set of the yellow cluster led bulbs in my turns and didn't like them.  They were bright when you looked directly at them, but when viewed from most any angle, not so much....they just didn't illuminate the entire clear lens. 

I put the regular incandesent bulbs back in there.....they illuminate the entire lens much better IMHO. 

They're may be better options, but that's just my experience with leds. 
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« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2012, 02:47:07 PM »

If you want red lenses for you rear turn signals these will fit almost perfectly. If you have the two screw type remove enough of the white back of the lens to clear your bulb and drill the holes in it to mount it to the housing using the original screws (you might need shorer ones) that held the original len on then snap the red lens on and your done. If you have the single screw mount, take a 2' hole saw and remove the center of the back plate of the light then with the glue of your choosing glue the white backing in the original housing and snap the red lens on. and your done. I used JB Weld but any good glue will work as these are almost the perfect size. You can order the lights at Autozone but they charge 8.99 each for them. http://www.amazon.com/Blazer-B827R-clearance-marker-1-each/dp/B0045LOMYA You can get thems from other sources also.
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« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2012, 05:31:25 PM »

These aren't LEDs but standard 1156 or 1157 in red.  Kuryakyn made them and I bought them from DennisKirk.com.  I've used them for two years now, direct replacement, no modifications to anything.   I'd rather have red lenses with white bulbs, but nobody sells the red lenses, at least I can't find them.  I'm running a "Back-Off" turn signal, brake light set-up, which gives me three brake lights.  PM me and I'll find the part numbers if you want.

Dan

Learn something new every day.   Wink  Didn't know they made such a thing.....

https://www.denniskirk.com/kuryakyn/red-turn-signal-bulb.p22518.prd/22518.sku
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Brian
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« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2012, 05:48:00 PM »

If you want red lenses for you rear turn signals these will fit almost perfectly. If you have the two screw type remove enough of the white back of the lens to clear your bulb and drill the holes in it to mount it to the housing using the original screws (you might need shorer ones) that held the original len on then snap the red lens on and your done. If you have the single screw mount, take a 2' hole saw and remove the center of the back plate of the light then with the glue of your choosing glue the white backing in the original housing and snap the red lens on. and your done. I used JB Weld but any good glue will work as these are almost the perfect size. You can order the lights at Autozone but they charge 8.99 each for them. http://www.amazon.com/Blazer-B827R-clearance-marker-1-each/dp/B0045LOMYA You can get thems from other sources also.

This is thinking outside the box Mr. Bubbles. My turn signal lenses measure 2 15/16" OD where these state their OD is 2 13/15". Is the 1/16" lip all around noticeable?
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Mr.BubblesVRCCDS0008
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« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2012, 09:06:04 PM »

These lese  were  close fit. I thouht I red the lese were 2 x 3/4 . Fit is flush.
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« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2012, 03:07:39 AM »

I use red led 1157 bulbs in my rear turn signals.  Yes, I converted them to running lights also.  Instead of using load equalizers, I use an electronic flasher from Custom Dynamics.

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« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2012, 03:20:00 AM »

These sure are cheap enough to warrant trying. I am using the amber lenses painted with the translucent candy apple color. They appear to be just fine during low light, I am being told that the LED's are hard to see in the bright sun. True red lenses with the red LED's might be a better way to go.
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« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2012, 04:49:40 AM »

Actually I have Kury deep dish red lenses on my rear turns.

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« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2012, 06:49:10 PM »

These lese  were  close fit. I thouht I red the lese were 2 x 3/4 . Fit is flush.
Mr. Bubbles, I just ordered two of them to try. $4.98 and free shipping is hard to pass up if they work.
Thanks for the lead.
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Mr.BubblesVRCCDS0008
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« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2012, 03:10:54 PM »

I wish I could take credit for this find but it was on the board years ago when I did my first bike. I couldn't remember the exact numbers of the lenses but I took a chance and found them again.
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« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2012, 06:27:17 PM »

Mr. Bubbles,
The red lights came from amazon today. I have the two screw type lenses. I had to make a 1" wide x 1/4" deep notch in the edge of the white base to allow these to fit snug against the OEM light socket. Shorter sheet metal screws were also needed, all this and they fit well, really brighter verses the amber lenses painted. I feel the shop work to make these work are well worth the effort for a $5.00 investment.

Thanks again for resurrecting the lead and the item link.
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« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2012, 08:50:02 AM »

These aren't LEDs but standard 1156 or 1157 in red.  Kuryakyn made them and I bought them from DennisKirk.com.  I've used them for two years now, direct replacement, no modifications to anything.   I'd rather have red lenses with white bulbs, but nobody sells the red lenses, at least I can't find them.  I'm running a "Back-Off" turn signal, brake light set-up, which gives me three brake lights.  PM me and I'll find the part numbers if you want.

Dan
The amber lenses can be painted from the inside with candy apple model car paint by testor's to turn them red.  Thy look like this when done. Hoser
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« Reply #16 on: August 12, 2012, 11:35:55 AM »



It's been awihle since I posted pictures here. The first one are the bases before and after working them to make them fit. The second picture is the comparison between the painted amber lens on the left and the new red lens conversion on the right. For some reason the red LED lights look yellow here.
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« Reply #17 on: August 12, 2012, 11:39:39 AM »


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« Reply #18 on: August 12, 2012, 09:47:44 PM »

These aren't LEDs but standard 1156 or 1157 in red.  Kuryakyn made them and I bought them from DennisKirk.com.  I've used them for two years now, direct replacement, no modifications to anything.   I'd rather have red lenses with white bulbs, but nobody sells the red lenses, at least I can't find them.  I'm running a "Back-Off" turn signal, brake light set-up, which gives me three brake lights.  PM me and I'll find the part numbers if you want.

Dan

A guy has a set of turn signas for sale in the classifeds. The rear ones have red lenses.
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« Reply #19 on: August 13, 2012, 12:49:45 PM »

Like Hoser said, you can paint the inside of the lenses red.
The stuff is available at most hobby shops.
"Testor's Transparent Candy Apple Red". Small can, about as expensive as a regular spray can of paint.
I've actually done on two different bikes. A couple very light coats, hold it in place, see if it's red enough. If not, another light coat or two.
Works well on stock amber lenses, takes more paint on the clear ones.
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Brian
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« Reply #20 on: August 13, 2012, 02:28:02 PM »

Like Hoser said, you can paint the inside of the lenses red.
The stuff is available at most hobby shops.
"Testor's Transparent Candy Apple Red". Small can, about as expensive as a regular spray can of paint.
I've actually done on two different bikes. A couple very light coats, hold it in place, see if it's red enough. If not, another light coat or two.
Works well on stock amber lenses, takes more paint on the clear ones.

What I am showing in the above picture is a comparison between the painted amber lens with the paint you stated verses the Blazer red lens from amazon.com. The lenses were $4.98-free shipping about the same price as the paint and much brighter. My objective is more light on the back especially braking with the way bikes have been getting rearended here. The final decission is of coarse yours. I opt for the brighter version because I have been rearended 3 times already in truck, don't need it happening on the bike.

Ride safe.
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« Reply #21 on: August 13, 2012, 04:46:05 PM »

Like Hoser said, you can paint the inside of the lenses red.
The stuff is available at most hobby shops.
"Testor's Transparent Candy Apple Red". Small can, about as expensive as a regular spray can of paint.
I've actually done on two different bikes. A couple very light coats, hold it in place, see if it's red enough. If not, another light coat or two.
Works well on stock amber lenses, takes more paint on the clear ones.

What I am showing in the above picture is a comparison between the painted amber lens with the paint you stated verses the Blazer red lens from amazon.com. The lenses were $4.98-free shipping about the same price as the paint and much brighter. My objective is more light on the back especially braking with the way bikes have been getting rearended here. The final decission is of coarse yours. I opt for the brighter version because I have been rearended 3 times already in truck, don't need it happening on the bike.

Ride safe.





good pics, Brian
When I did the lens paint I had no problems with the red turn/tail. Did not change bulbs and mine were brighter than the taillight/brakelight, I did not put the red on too thick. Whatever works for you. I do believe my painted ones were equal to your store bought. Everything I have read/studied shows that white bulbs with red lenses are much brighter than red bulbs in red lenses. Don't know what you have.
The important thing is to be seen.
My yellow/white 98 std. was totaled out from under me by a texting driver rear ending me-a cop light bar would not have helped.
LED's are very directional-any slight off angle viewing will lessen their visability. That's why I stuck with stock bulbs.
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« Reply #22 on: August 13, 2012, 05:14:55 PM »

Like Hoser said, you can paint the inside of the lenses red.
The stuff is available at most hobby shops.
"Testor's Transparent Candy Apple Red". Small can, about as expensive as a regular spray can of paint.
I've actually done on two different bikes. A couple very light coats, hold it in place, see if it's red enough. If not, another light coat or two.
Works well on stock amber lenses, takes more paint on the clear ones.

What I am showing in the above picture is a comparison between the painted amber lens with the paint you stated verses the Blazer red lens from amazon.com. The lenses were $4.98-free shipping about the same price as the paint and much brighter. My objective is more light on the back especially braking with the way bikes have been getting rearended here. The final decission is of coarse yours. I opt for the brighter version because I have been rearended 3 times already in truck, don't need it happening on the bike.

Ride safe.





good pics, Brian
When I did the lens paint I had no problems with the red turn/tail. Did not change bulbs and mine were brighter than the taillight/brakelight, I did not put the red on too thick. Whatever works for you. I do believe my painted ones were equal to your store bought. Everything I have read/studied shows that white bulbs with red lenses are much brighter than red bulbs in red lenses. Don't know what you have.
The important thing is to be seen.
My yellow/white 98 std. was totaled out from under me by a texting driver rear ending me-a cop light bar would not have helped.
LED's are very directional-any slight off angle viewing will lessen their visability. That's why I stuck with stock bulbs.
I have since gone back to the stock bulbs since I noticed the LED's not really all that much brighter between run and braking. I have started a seperate thread here to see if there is something I may have to add to circuit to mke them work right. I like the fact that the LED's last so long. Sorry to hear about your accident. I pray you are well?
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« Reply #23 on: August 14, 2012, 02:56:20 PM »

Here's what I did. Changed all my turns(front & rear) to clear, plus the tail light lens. Then ordered the round LEDs from Radiantz which are extremely bright. I used the dual brilliance in the turns both front and rear, very effective. To make them work, you'll have to install a diode kit in the headlight bucket. Get them from Kuryakyn for under $10, simple installation on the wiring leading to the amber turn signal indicator.



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