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« on: July 30, 2012, 04:17:23 PM »

Just watched the ABC Evening news.  On it, they had a report on Syria. 

The reporter interviewed an old couple there.  Adbul something and his wife who have 15 children. 

Three of their sons are already dead from fighting the Syrian army.....and they pray that their other six sons die also. 

A few more examples....

Father prayed with son for son's suicide "Martyrdom"powered by Aeva

Palestinian mother prayed for son's Shahada deathpowered by Aeva

Son's death was "best day of my life," says Palestinian motherpowered by Aeva


The fundemental difference is that we value life and pray that our sons come home alive.  They pray for their son's (and daughter's) death. 

What kind of people pray for their children's death?  I can't fathom someone who places so little value on their own children's lives that their death is more important for them than having their child alive and well. 

We ARE in a war with islam like it or not. 

There is NO common ground. 
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« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2012, 04:54:42 PM »

Yep, we should have used our nukes, not our soldiers.
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« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2012, 08:53:28 PM »

Those people are nuts.Turn the place to glass
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« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2012, 09:08:29 PM »

I just can't get past the fact that these people hope and pray that their children will die.   uglystupid2 

Islam must be pure evil.   

There's no other explaination for someone to wish death upon their child other than evil. 

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« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2012, 12:33:59 AM »

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« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2012, 01:22:41 AM »

wow you guys must be Christians
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« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2012, 02:19:12 AM »

They might be, junior.  However, I've known some folks who were definately not Christians, but would not be anywhere close to being that evil.
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« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2012, 04:30:55 AM »

Pro 8:36  "But he who sins against me injures himself; All those who hate me love death."
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« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2012, 04:38:26 AM »

Two Islamic women looking through a family scrapbook:

1st: "This was Abdul, he became a Martyr in June, two years ago".
2nd: "Awww you must be proud!"
1st: "This was Ahmed, he became a Martyr in April las year".
2nd: "He looked so handsome".
1st:  " And this was Yamen, he became a Martyr, just last month:. 

2nd:  Wow,... they blow up so fast...
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« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2012, 04:59:24 AM »

These are obviously extreme examples of Islam, just like videos of KKK Klansmen are extreme examples of Christianity.  The vast majority of Muslims are peaceful, just like the vast majority of Christians are not defined by the Klan.  Also, shahada doesn't mean marytrdom, it means salvation, or more specificaly, the Muslim creed "There is no god but God, Muhammad is the messenger of God."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahada

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« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2012, 05:04:23 AM »

Yep, we should have used our nukes, not our soldiers.

Maybe we should have used our nukes everywhere back when we were the only one that had them tickedoff 2funny
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« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2012, 07:58:52 AM »

I just read today about a couple in Mali that were stoned to death for illict sex. The local followers of Islamic(shariah)law said the couple"asked"for their punishment. Yeah-right. We really need a tongue in cheek font. RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2012, 08:20:09 AM »

Unfortunately these are not extreme (as in rare) examples of Islam. They are extremely common throughout the Muslim world. Their book directly instructs them to convert by force if need be or kill all unbelievers. Fortunately, not 'every' Muslim does this or believes what's in their holy book. But it is in their book. Nothing in the Holy Bible instructs any believer to harm anyone in anyway.

On the contrary, the mayors of Boston and Chicago want to ban Chik-fil-a because the CEO's personal beliefs is that marriage should remain between one man and one woman. Both of these mayors have stated they will not allow Chik-fil-a come into or expand in these cities. But the mayor of Boston was eager to get an Islamic Mosque built in that city and gave them well over $1,000,000 of the taxpayers money to do so. The cleric at that mosque has said publically that any homosexual  should be either thrown off a high building, burned alive or stoned to death. So the Boston mayor is acting like the thought police for a private citizens personal beliefs but endorsed the mosque who actively support the killing of homosexuals. Seems you can draw your own conclusions as to who truly believes in free speech and thought. All too often people say they support 'choice'. All too often what they mean is that you can have a 'choice' as long as it's the one they have.

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« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2012, 09:39:42 AM »

These are obviously extreme examples of Islam, just like videos of KKK Klansmen are extreme examples of Christianity.  The vast majority of Muslims are peaceful, just like the vast majority of Christians are not defined by the Klan.  Also, shahada doesn't mean marytrdom, it means salvation, or more specificaly, the Muslim creed "There is no god but God, Muhammad is the messenger of God."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahada

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Sorry but you are wrong in a couple of ways the kkk has no association with true Christianity. The Bible the book of Christians in case you dont know never preached violence or racism or any of the other KKKs beliefs. But Islam with the quran teaches that you can lie to a enemy which is anyone that doesn't believe. You can kill anyone who doesn't believe and use any methods possible to rid the world of infidels or anyone that doesn't believe, You can be a believer and be black and be less than a dog and should be killed. The list goes on to what the believers should do to those that dont believe or how to punish them to make believers out of them and how to treat others. So the comparison you made is way off. One teaches love and care for the lost the other kill them period. I also learned a interesting fact the other day did you know that Mohamed the one that supposedly wrote the Quran was illiterate? If someone doesn't follow the teachings in the Quran that would make sense with the modern laws that are in effect now. But a radical Muslim is actually only following the Quran and what it teaches. So all those that call themselves Muslim and dont kill are actually not following what the Muslim holy book teaches. But if Christians followed what our holy book says the US would not be in the state it is now. Because the Bible teaches honor love patience kindness but still says how many do we have that really follow the Bible just the difference in outcome to those that do follow what each holy book says.
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« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2012, 10:22:26 AM »

These are obviously extreme examples of Islam, just like videos of KKK Klansmen are extreme examples of Christianity.  The vast majority of Muslims are peaceful, just like the vast majority of Christians are not defined by the Klan.  Also, shahada doesn't mean marytrdom, it means salvation, or more specificaly, the Muslim creed "There is no god but God, Muhammad is the messenger of God."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahada

jj


Why is it that just as soon as someone mentions islam, there's usually someone else ready to defend it?   Angry

I do not believe that these are extreme or rare examples, but are the norm within the "religion of peace". 

btw.....you don't have to be a christian to love your child.....just human.   IMHO, it is inhuman and abnormal and pure evil to wish for your child's death. 



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« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2012, 10:38:06 AM »

It is religious brainwashing that begins at an early age, and continues through life. If you are a child and are surrounded by people who believe as the Muslims do, and you see examples of violent punishment for infractions, and hear about the glory of having a multitude of virgins when you die (what are the women promised, by the way?) your chances of straying are slim. When you are taught that anyone who does not believe what you believe is inferior, especially at an early age, when you have no concept of compassion for others, you're not likely to develop compassion for someone less than yourself; if the Muslims continue to believe as they believe, our options are very limited...
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« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2012, 10:49:35 AM »

Two things will help bring Islam to America -

1. Christianity replacing God with the Almighty Dollar.

2. Feminism and it's destruction of the American family.

For better or for worst, Muslims believe in their creed. Christians believe in nothing but the Almighty dollar and it's power to buy them a place in heaven.

You can flame all you want but I quit going to church and said to h*ll with religion after the third money sermon in a row and a hand full of visits to other church showed they were preaching the same thing.

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« Reply #17 on: July 31, 2012, 11:21:25 AM »

Does my heart good to know we have helped their dreams come true.

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« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2012, 11:47:05 AM »

Two things will help bring Islam to America -

1. Christianity replacing God with the Almighty Dollar.

2. Feminism and it's destruction of the American family.

For better or for worst, Muslims believe in their creed. Christians believe in nothing but the Almighty dollar and it's power to buy them a place in heaven.

You can flame all you want but I quit going to church and said to h*ll with religion after the third money sermon in a row and a hand full of visits to other church showed they were preaching the same thing.




No flames.  But I think you're wrong.  Politcal correctness and the refusal to acknowlege what we're going to be forced into dealing with is the problem.  

Lack of christian faith, or fath in the almighty dollar is not what will bring them here as they're already in route.  Take a look around Detroitastan and Dearbornistan, MI as an example.  They're here and their numbers are growing rapidily.  Take alot around Europe to see what we're in store for.  It's not that hard to see what's happening in Europe.....England is just one small example.  

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Their belief in global caliphate using global jihad to obtain that goal is what's bringing them here.  They have stated their goal to take over and place an islamic capital in Jerusalem.....and Washington it next.  They've said it.....and I take them at their word.  

Read this for more and Iran's role and the global caliphate.....

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/11/07/why-irans-top-leaders-believe-that-end-days-has-come/

We ARE in a global world war with islam.....because they've said they are at war with us.  I don't doubt their word or their resolve.  

This is what they're doing and how they're doing it......

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« Reply #19 on: July 31, 2012, 03:20:53 PM »

Yep, we should have used our nukes, not our soldiers.

Maybe we should have used our nukes everywhere back when we were the only one that had them tickedoff 2funny
Thats what General McArthur wanted.
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« Reply #20 on: July 31, 2012, 04:05:52 PM »

well said Karen

The war has been raging.. whether one wishes to believe it is so or not

cartoons showing how to kill and show no mercy on kids tv sanctioned by the govmts in the mideast

mothers and fathers giving their children up as explosives

It is a sad world,

The Government must acknowledge the reality that not all must like us or will like us or even want us to breathe the same air and some will want us dead because we are US   A

IMHO follow the golden rule but be vigilant and aware

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« Reply #21 on: July 31, 2012, 05:45:00 PM »

The More Radical you are for the cause of Islam. The better Muslim you are considered to be.

SO killing off your kids for Allah, is the vogue thing to do in those countries.

And the Wahhabah sect affirms this though mind control of the young.

Self perpetuating cycle that can only be broken by destroying the terrorist,

Or sterylizing the freaks early in life.

Radiation is a very good sterylizing agent and Nucs can deliver a good dose quickly.


You choose.
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« Reply #22 on: July 31, 2012, 06:04:57 PM »

The islamic peoples have been killing each other for centuries.  They have now realized that they have a common enemy and so they have turned their attention to the west.  These people are self destructive, and I don't mean they blow themselves up.  Even if they take over the world, they will eventually kills themselves off because they just love to kill.  We should be taking a stand and not allow them to immigrate to North America.  When I hear muslims talk they never see Canada as their home, only the place they live.  Their homeland is some country in the Middle East.  I always tell them that if Canada is not their home, then go home if it is so better there.  We don't need their crap here.  Multi-culturalism is a bunch of crap.  It is our way or don't come here.  tickedoff
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« Reply #23 on: July 31, 2012, 06:06:10 PM »

Fritz,

     So you found some dud churches. They're everywhere, they're typically large, they're typically full and they're completely powerless. They're filled with a familiar spirit, not the Holy Spirit. They're called placebo churches by anyone with even a small amount of bible knowledge. Find a bible based church with as little partos and church doctrine as you can. Get back on the narrow path brother. Never let an idiot or a charletan control your joy or faith level. Sorry, but you can't do it your way. That's called idoltry.

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« Reply #24 on: July 31, 2012, 06:15:44 PM »

I always hear it the radicals, not the mainstream muslims, and I want to believe that but where is the outcry following the atrocities?  All I hear is tacit approval.  I never lost that image of all the rabble in the streets cheering when the twin towers came down.  Were they all radicals?
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« Reply #25 on: July 31, 2012, 06:56:17 PM »

I always hear it the radicals, not the mainstream muslims, and I want to believe that but where is the outcry following the atrocities?  All I hear is tacit approval.  I never lost that image of all the rabble in the streets cheering when the twin towers came down.  Were they all radicals?
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« Reply #26 on: July 31, 2012, 07:02:14 PM »

These are obviously extreme examples of Islam, just like videos of KKK Klansmen are extreme examples of Christianity.  The vast majority of Muslims are peaceful, just like the vast majority of Christians are not defined by the Klan.  Also, shahada doesn't mean marytrdom, it means salvation, or more specificaly, the Muslim creed "There is no god but God, Muhammad is the messenger of God."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahada

jj


Sorry but you are wrong in a couple of ways the kkk has no association with true Christianity. The Bible the book of Christians in case you dont know never preached violence or racism or any of the other KKKs beliefs. But Islam with the quran teaches that you can lie to a enemy which is anyone that doesn't believe. You can kill anyone who doesn't believe and use any methods possible to rid the world of infidels or anyone that doesn't believe, You can be a believer and be black and be less than a dog and should be killed. The list goes on to what the believers should do to those that dont believe or how to punish them to make believers out of them and how to treat others. So the comparison you made is way off. One teaches love and care for the lost the other kill them period. I also learned a interesting fact the other day did you know that Mohamed the one that supposedly wrote the Quran was illiterate? If someone doesn't follow the teachings in the Quran that would make sense with the modern laws that are in effect now. But a radical Muslim is actually only following the Quran and what it teaches. So all those that call themselves Muslim and dont kill are actually not following what the Muslim holy book teaches. But if Christians followed what our holy book says the US would not be in the state it is now. Because the Bible teaches honor love patience kindness but still says how many do we have that really follow the Bible just the difference in outcome to those that do follow what each holy book says.


The Koran teaches peace, just like the Bible.  If you asked a klansman, I am sure he would justify his beliefs with scripture, and I have in fact heard just that.  I have seen in on TV, and I have personally heard from a Klansman that he is a member because of his Christian beliefs. It doesn't have to be a rational belief for someone to believe.  Bottom line, people corrupt religions.  And just because the Bible teaches love and peace didn't stop the crusades, spanish inquisition, etc.  Christians have a lot of non-Christian behavior in their past.  As a Christian, I am just as angered by Klansmen as I am sure most Muslims are angered by radical muslims...
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« Reply #27 on: July 31, 2012, 07:16:03 PM »

                "There is NO common ground"                                   coolsmiley 
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« Reply #28 on: July 31, 2012, 07:27:47 PM »

The Koran teaches peace, just like the Bible.  If you asked a klansman, I am sure he would justify his beliefs with scripture, and I have in fact heard just that.  I have seen in on TV, and I have personally heard from a Klansman that he is a member because of his Christian beliefs. It doesn't have to be a rational belief for someone to believe.  Bottom line, people corrupt religions.  And just because the Bible teaches love and peace didn't stop the crusades, spanish inquisition, etc.  Christians have a lot of non-Christian behavior in their past.  As a Christian, I am just as angered by Klansmen as I am sure most Muslims are angered by radical muslims...

The koran teaches peace....from the point of a sword.  The Bible teaches peace....from reaching out with love. 

You should learn the difference. 
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« Reply #29 on: July 31, 2012, 10:26:19 PM »

One might think that a fundamental difference is they are proud have heroes who will die for the homeland, while we send our sons and daughters to invade and occupy.
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« Reply #30 on: July 31, 2012, 10:28:00 PM »

The Koran teaches peace, just like the Bible.  If you asked a klansman, I am sure he would justify his beliefs with scripture, and I have in fact heard just that.  I have seen in on TV, and I have personally heard from a Klansman that he is a member because of his Christian beliefs. It doesn't have to be a rational belief for someone to believe.  Bottom line, people corrupt religions.  And just because the Bible teaches love and peace didn't stop the crusades, spanish inquisition, etc.  Christians have a lot of non-Christian behavior in their past.  As a Christian, I am just as angered by Klansmen as I am sure most Muslims are angered by radical muslims...

The koran teaches peace....from the point of a sword.  The Bible teaches peace....from reaching out with love. 

You should learn the difference. 

LOL!  Bullshit.  If that was true, we wouldn't be hip-deep in never-ending foreign wars.   None of the Abrahamic religions are peaceful.
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« Reply #31 on: August 01, 2012, 03:07:57 AM »

No normal person should ever WISH for anothers death under normal situations.,, escpecially of there own DNA.

We kill only to protect. read that as you will.
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« Reply #32 on: August 01, 2012, 04:30:56 AM »

When someone says that the Quran is peaceful is not taking the full book into account. In the Quran the book was written so that the reader is instructed to follow the last chapter that was written. So some sections do have some peaceful parts and some that do teach love, but the problem is the Qurans last chapter is when Mohammed was in war and it is about war and that is what the Muslims are instructed to follow if they are truly Muslims following their holy book. Remember also that Allah only talked to Mohammed and no one else so he and he alone is the author of the Muslim faith. So it is not unlike Buddha or any other religion that has a dead prophet instead of a live Savior. The last thing is you cannot believe how many times the Quran mentions the Bible or the Torah it would not survive if the Bible was a unknown book and had never been written.
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« Reply #33 on: August 01, 2012, 04:42:19 AM »

You can flame all you want but I quit going to church and said to h*ll with religion after the third money sermon in a row and a hand full of visits to other church showed they were preaching the same thing.
I agree for the most part but I ask you this did you pray and ask God for a good church to go to? We think this walk we are alone we forget to ask our Father for what we need. We become discouraged and upset when we cannot do it on our own but that is not what the Bible says to do. We have a Father that loves us and wants to walk with us and guide us. He already knows the right church for you He is just waiting for you to ask. Ask and you shall receive
Joh 15:7  "If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you.
Joh 15:16  "You did not choose Me but I chose you, and appointed you that you would go and bear fruit, and that your fruit would remain, so that whatever you ask of the Father in My name He may give to you.
Joh 16:24  "Until now you have asked for nothing in My name; ask and you will receive, so that your joy may be made full.
Luk 11:8  "I tell you, even though he will not get up and give him anything because he is his friend, yet because of his persistence he will get up and give him as much as he needs.
Luk 11:9  "So I say to you, ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you.
Luk 11:10  "For everyone who asks, receives; and he who seeks, finds; and to him who knocks, it will be opened.

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« Reply #34 on: August 01, 2012, 08:32:40 AM »

As I don't speak Arabic or Farsi or whatever the language is they are speaking in those videos, I have no idea what they are saying.   The words at the bottom of the screen may or may not be theirs.  Heck, they could be saying "I don't understand why the Ayatollah has prohibited us from eating Twinkies on Saturday", or "How 'bout them Cowboys?". 

My company deals with family entertainment and we have many Muslim clients.  They all seem to love and cherish their children.  So painting all Muslims with such a large brush seems wrong.

But that's only my opinion.  I could be wrong.

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« Reply #35 on: August 01, 2012, 09:40:18 AM »

When someone says that the Quran is peaceful is not taking the full book into account. In the Quran the book was written so that the reader is instructed to follow the last chapter that was written. So some sections do have some peaceful parts and some that do teach love, but the problem is the Qurans last chapter is when Mohammed was in war and it is about war and that is what the Muslims are instructed to follow if they are truly Muslims following their holy book. Remember also that Allah only talked to Mohammed and no one else so he and he alone is the author of the Muslim faith. So it is not unlike Buddha or any other religion that has a dead prophet instead of a live Savior. The last thing is you cannot believe how many times the Quran mentions the Bible or the Torah it would not survive if the Bible was a unknown book and had never been written.
In Muhammad's words: "I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.' And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them..."  (Bukhari 8:387)

Here's an idea.  Let's do like Joseph Smith and 'find' another book of the quran.  Let's make this one something like "and allah commanded all of his followers to swim into the Arabian Sea wearing a jacket of heavy weights"!    cooldude
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« Reply #36 on: August 01, 2012, 09:45:16 AM »

just imagine how peaceful this world would be without religion.  people killing themselves and others in the name of god.  believing that their way is the rightous way, believing all others not belonging to their church are cursed to hell.  imagine how peacful this world would be without "god"......

jesus him self said in mathew 10:34  “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household."

yeah buddy. that's the kinda love i'm talking about!!!
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« Reply #37 on: August 01, 2012, 09:49:45 AM »

 
My company deals with family entertainment and we have many Muslim clients.  They all seem to love and cherish their children.  So painting all Muslims with such a large brush seems wrong.

But that's only my opinion.  I could be wrong.



I'm assuming that your clients are living here in the United States, where they are a small minority of the population.  I doubt your Muslim clients have ever chopped off a hand of a hungary child that was caught stealing an apple from a market.  I doubt they have ever drug a female doctor out of a hospital and beat her for not following Islamic traditions as she worked. (by the way, health care is the only approved work for a woman to do out of the home.)  These atrocities are commonplace in Islamic countries.

Things change when a population becomes predomanitly Muslim.  Religion becomes the law.  Don't expect the same tolerances of personal freedoms in places that Shariah Law is being imposed.  Promoting other religious beliefs will get you a long jail sentence or death.  They can sell herion, but jail someone for drinking alcohol.

I blame the "moderate," peace loving, child cherishing Muslims as much as the radical ones.  By remaining silent and doing nothing to stop human right abuses. The moderate Muslims may as well swing the sword or cast the stones themselves.

I'm not even for having the "peaceful ones" over here.  I see what they do everywhere that they take over.  I doubt our founding fathers ever concidered the consequences of allowing religious freedoms to a group that advocates killing anyone who is a non-believer of their faith.
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« Reply #38 on: August 01, 2012, 04:30:19 PM »

I always hear it the radicals, not the mainstream muslims, and I want to believe that but where is the outcry following the atrocities?  All I hear is tacit approval.  I never lost that image of all the rabble in the streets cheering when the twin towers came down.  Were they all radicals?
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My guess--the media doesn't get a good story covering "average" muslims.  Who wants to watch a 10 minute interview with muslims saying "Islam is a peaceful religion"  I still think is goes back to the news media being more concerned with $$$$ and ratings than telling the truth. 

if it bleeds it leads, same with gun stories, airplane crash stories, etc, etc....
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« Reply #39 on: August 01, 2012, 06:50:45 PM »

 
My company deals with family entertainment and we have many Muslim clients.  They all seem to love and cherish their children.  So painting all Muslims with such a large brush seems wrong.

But that's only my opinion.  I could be wrong.



I'm assuming that your clients are living here in the United States, where they are a small minority of the population.  I doubt your Muslim clients have ever chopped off a hand of a hungary child that was caught stealing an apple from a market.  I doubt they have ever drug a female doctor out of a hospital and beat her for not following Islamic traditions as she worked. (by the way, health care is the only approved work for a woman to do out of the home.)  These atrocities are commonplace in Islamic countries.

Things change when a population becomes predomanitly Muslim.  Religion becomes the law.  Don't expect the same tolerances of personal freedoms in places that Shariah Law is being imposed.  Promoting other religious beliefs will get you a long jail sentence or death.  They can sell herion, but jail someone for drinking alcohol.

I blame the "moderate," peace loving, child cherishing Muslims as much as the radical ones.  By remaining silent and doing nothing to stop human right abuses. The moderate Muslims may as well swing the sword or cast the stones themselves.

I'm not even for having the "peaceful ones" over here.  I see what they do everywhere that they take over.  I doubt our founding fathers ever concidered the consequences of allowing religious freedoms to a group that advocates killing anyone who is a non-believer of their faith.

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Muslims as a groups rise up and raise hell over a cartoon but are silent when their brethren slaughter innocents including women and children. They are all complicit by virtue of their silence.
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