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I have a lighter wired in to use for GPS and phone charger. It is a standard bike style with waterproof lighter cap. I also have a Bad Boy horn, and a set of Elcheapo Walmart driving lights. These are both wired through seperate relays. I ran the lighter straight to the batt. power and ground with a fuze. The relays are from the hot lead, and grounded to the frame. I trigger the horn with the horn wire, and trigger the driving lights with the acc. lead. Everything has worked fine until today. I used the lighter, and it didn't work. I assumed the fuze blew. It didn't. But my driving lights quit working, as did my horn. In investigating, I discovered my driving lights comming on when I turned the key off. So I pulled the wire going to the light relay, and they went out. I got my wire tester, and put to goound and stuck it into the acc outlet. The radio came on with the key off. After going through all the connections, I discovered the lighter pushed in but not hot. The power lead shows power, and it did not blow the fuze. The horn started working when I pulled the lighter. So basically, without the lighter pushed in, everything works. Push it in and the electrics go goofy. I can't find any shortsor bad wires, so is it the socket for the lighter, or the lighter it's self. ANY insight would be helpful. Ya, I know, don't use the lighter   |
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Hoser
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« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2012, 03:32:38 PM » |
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I think the heat element in the lighter shorted out, try another. Hoser
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Daniel Meyer
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« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2012, 03:45:18 PM » |
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Loose ground cable(s) at the battery?
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« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2012, 05:46:30 PM » |
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+1 What Daniel said: it sounds like a ground problem.
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Michvalk
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« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2012, 06:31:51 PM » |
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Loose ground cable(s) at the battery?
I checked the ground where they connect to the frame and they were tight. Never give the battery ground for the lighter a thought. What is throwing me is the fact the lighter never blew the fuze. and I could hear other relays clicking when lights were going on and off with pushing the lighter in and out. The bike starts great no matter what. I'll check that ground |
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GJS
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« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2012, 07:51:05 PM » |
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I think you answered your own question.
With the lighter pushed in, your f 'ed.
Take it out your fine.
Your element is bad, but not a dead short, or your fuse would go.
Hoser had it right.
Try your car lighter.
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Glenn
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salty1
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« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2012, 07:53:46 PM » |
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Sounds like Hoser might be right. Is there continuity across the plug in?  |
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« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2012, 07:58:47 PM » |
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My thoughts are to use the ground at the battery for all add-ons with their own relay circuits.
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« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2012, 08:01:22 PM » |
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My thoughts are to use the ground at the battery for all add-ons with their own relay and fused circuits.
Or you risk the chance of a short somewhere else.
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« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2012, 07:09:16 AM » |
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Bad battery! Time for a new one!
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« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2012, 04:38:12 PM » |
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Bad battery! Time for a new one!
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Battery load tests good. Have removed the lighter plug and have had no more problems. Think it's time for a power port |
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« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2012, 12:05:49 PM » |
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