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« on: August 21, 2012, 01:29:25 AM » |
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Well, I have my first experience with a flat tire on a motorcycle the other day. Wife and I were on our Goldwing, returning from a day ride when I noticed the bike acting strangely in the corners. Wasn't too concerned at first but as we rode on it started getting worse. Got into town and I thought I'd better pull over an check. Sure enough, the rear tire was almost flat. Couldn't find anything sticking out of the tire but did find a hole. Managed to walk over to a hardware store and get some tire sealant, pump up the tire and limped home. In the process now of having new rubber put on the bike and was looking into ways of dealing with the issue should it happen again when I'm not close to a store.
Been looking at posts on the forum and on-line regarding tire plugs and Ride-On. A friend suggested I carry a tire plug kit like the Stop & Go while the dealership I am having install the new tires suggested Ride-On. Seems there are a lot of different opinions about both products here and other sites but was curious if anybody out there has tried both and now prefers one over the other. I like the idea of Ride-On instantly sealing the tire (we almost lost the bike on the last corner we made) but I don't know if I like the idea of putting something in the tire. Plugs seem like a good answer but then you have to deal with the possibility of losing tire pressure and finding out the hard way, like in a corner.
Any advice would be most appreciated.
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« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2012, 02:42:24 AM » |
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I have been using ride on now for close to 5,000 miles. Shortly after installing a new E3 on the rear I picked up a nail almost dead center of the tire. I only noticed the nail when I was checking the tire pressure before heading out on trip. There was no air leaking at the nail site. My dealer told me to leave the nail in there as the ride on was doing what it is supposed to do and the nail will just wear down with the tread. The ride on also keeps the tires in balance giving a smoother ride.
I would still consider carrying a tire plug kit and something to inflate the tire. As I can't really speak to anything bigger than a small nail. So far the ride on has been keeping me on the road. The amount of ride on in each tire is determined by the size of the tire. Shop around for it, the stuff is not cheap. I believe I gave $14 a bottle and had to buy three 8oz bottles.
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« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2012, 03:48:14 AM » |
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Previously I had used Dyna beads for balancing and carried a stop n go plug kit along with a TPMS that I attached to the bottom of the Tach gauge with Velcro so that I could see any loss in pressure prior to the machine getting "squirrelly". I have since changed form beads to ride-on and still use the TPMS. The Stop n go kit and spark plug hole air pump (screws in place of one of the spark plugs to air up tire with engine running) TPMS was a bit pricey but I consider it a big safety investment, with TPMS you would have had the opportunity to see the display dropping in PSI prior to the last turn which almost turned out bad.
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« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2012, 04:03:55 AM » |
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I'd say use RideOn to keep from getting a flat, and the plug kit to try and fix it if you do get a flat.
The RideOn people want you to remove the nail: You may be wondering why you need to remove puncturing objects from your tire tread given that Ride-On forms an effective seal around such objects. The reason is that if an object is left in the tire, it will shift as the tire rotates, eventually creating a larger hole and causing further damage to the tire or tube.
I heard that the spark plug pump puts out so much air that it will re-bead a tire... you're really stuck when the tire's off the bead, anyone know if that is true?
I re-beaded a small tire with a bladder pump by putting a ratchet strap around it to mash the bead against the rim - it worked, but when POP it sealed, the strap was all of a sudden scary tight...
-Mike
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Daniel Meyer
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« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2012, 08:05:49 AM » |
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I heard that the spark plug pump puts out so much air that it will re-bead a tire... you're really stuck when the tire's off the bead, anyone know if that is true?
Yes. I've done it. Gotta get the weight off the tire generally though.
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« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2012, 07:16:55 PM » |
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Previously I had used Dyna beads for balancing and carried a stop n go plug kit along with a TPMS that I attached to the bottom of the Tach gauge with Velcro so that I could see any loss in pressure prior to the machine getting "squirrelly". I have since changed form beads to ride-on and still use the TPMS. The Stop n go kit and spark plug hole air pump (screws in place of one of the spark plugs to air up tire with engine running) TPMS was a bit pricey but I consider it a big safety investment, with TPMS you would have had the opportunity to see the display dropping in PSI prior to the last turn which almost turned out bad.
Which tire pressure monitoring system (TPMS) are you using....and where'd ya get it?
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« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2012, 07:17:57 PM » |
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I put some Ride On in my Altimax before a ride from Albuquerque to Labrador last year. 9800 miles round trip in 27 days. When I got home I found a big nail in the rear tire. Not sure how long it was there but the tire did not loose 1 psi of air from when I left. Only checked it once on the road. I'm a believer. Well, I have my first experience with a flat tire on a motorcycle the other day. Wife and I were on our Goldwing, returning from a day ride when I noticed the bike acting strangely in the corners. Wasn't too concerned at first but as we rode on it started getting worse. Got into town and I thought I'd better pull over an check. Sure enough, the rear tire was almost flat. Couldn't find anything sticking out of the tire but did find a hole. Managed to walk over to a hardware store and get some tire sealant, pump up the tire and limped home. In the process now of having new rubber put on the bike and was looking into ways of dealing with the issue should it happen again when I'm not close to a store.
Been looking at posts on the forum and on-line regarding tire plugs and Ride-On. A friend suggested I carry a tire plug kit like the Stop & Go while the dealership I am having install the new tires suggested Ride-On. Seems there are a lot of different opinions about both products here and other sites but was curious if anybody out there has tried both and now prefers one over the other. I like the idea of Ride-On instantly sealing the tire (we almost lost the bike on the last corner we made) but I don't know if I like the idea of putting something in the tire. Plugs seem like a good answer but then you have to deal with the possibility of losing tire pressure and finding out the hard way, like in a corner.
Any advice would be most appreciated.
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« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2012, 11:05:37 AM » |
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Previously I had used Dyna beads for balancing and carried a stop n go plug kit along with a TPMS that I attached to the bottom of the Tach gauge with Velcro so that I could see any loss in pressure prior to the machine getting "squirrelly". I have since changed form beads to ride-on and still use the TPMS. The Stop n go kit and spark plug hole air pump (screws in place of one of the spark plugs to air up tire with engine running) TPMS was a bit pricey but I consider it a big safety investment, with TPMS you would have had the opportunity to see the display dropping in PSI prior to the last turn which almost turned out bad.
Which tire pressure monitoring system (TPMS) are you using....and where'd ya get it? Here ya go..... http://midwestcyclepro.com/mcp/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=25&products_id=16
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« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2012, 11:40:59 AM » |
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I've carried a Stop & Go kit and a 12V compressor with me for years, and during installing my current back tire (a car tire) I put in Ride-On. I'm pretty sure the Ride-On will take care of any puncture in my back tire that I would have otherwise used a plug to fix. When I replace my front tire, I will probably put Ride-On in that one too. I'll still carry the puncture repair kit because not only will I be able to help others, but also because the Ride-On only covers the centre part of the tread, not the tread that is used when I am leaned way over.
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« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2018, 08:04:05 PM » |
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I've had and been using a Stop&go pocket kit for about 6 years now. Got it with 15 plugs, as of tonight, down to 6. I just did another flat on my wife's car. I'm sure it's the one I did just about 1 year ago, as I didn't find anything in the tire, just the hole, and recall it in the same tire/place before.
Fixed it, working good (for now).
Went online to the stop&go web site to see if I can find out why the plug didn't hold. Found in the FAQ about a plug in a steel belted tire. They are not considered a permanent repair when installed in street (high speed) tires.
Now I'm considering using the rideon instead. I also use balancing beads. I figure the plugger and compressor will still travel with me, but will rely on the rideon to stop the leaks. 2 too many rear tire flats while riding at hwy speed with my wife on the back, to chance another failure because of my plug.
I've also added a TPMS, but I know we can loose air faster than how often I would be monitoring the display, and can't hear the alarm over the wind. They have dropped so much in price, they are affordable. Just waiting for some more mileage on them before an after review.
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« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2018, 08:42:00 PM » |
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I have been using Ride-On for several years now...Used on my 04 1300C VTX, 2006 1800R VTX, and now on my 99 Valkyrie Tourer...I do have plugs I carry, but have not used them so far...and I do always carry an air pump...!!! I like Ride-On especially as a balance agent for the tires. I do put in about 4oz more than what is required in each tire as a matter of safety...just what I tend to do...!!! Highly recommend Ride-On...!!!
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CleoBen
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« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2018, 03:44:20 PM » |
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Is RideOn a gooey liquid, kind of like Fix-a-Flat? If so, could it drip onto the TPMS unit and clog up a port or something?
I've heard auto tire installers hate FaF due to the mess it makes when you need to change tires.
CB
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« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2018, 04:55:32 PM » |
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Is RideOn a gooey liquid, kind of like Fix-a-Flat? If so, could it drip onto the TPMS unit and clog up a port or something?
I've heard auto tire installers hate FaF due to the mess it makes when you need to change tires.
CB
the stuff I use (not ride) is brushed on the inside of the thread area before fittings and stays there I also cary stop n go and they work well to get you home...have had some loose air but I carry a compressor so just pumped it back up ....not had to use since the use of the intire product
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