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Author Topic: Shifting problems from 4th to 5th  (Read 1578 times)
frenteacasa
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« on: October 25, 2012, 01:42:00 PM »

Hi, I have a Standard Valkyrie from 1999 with 30000 miles on it. My gearbox is rather cunckly but it works well enough. However when shifting from 4th to 5th, I frequently find some rubbing and resistance. Some ideas???

 I read somewhere that it might be due to some kind of springs easily accessible, but I'm not able to find the thread.

Thanks a lot in advance
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Chrisj CMA
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« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2012, 02:02:56 PM »

Well, there is one easy "fix" if this will help.  Reposition the shifter one clic down, I think that will help.  Also get used to a positive shift......it doesnt like to be babied
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CASABROKER
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« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2012, 03:54:28 PM »

Are you running synthetic oil in it?  If not switch for a smoother tranny.
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frenteacasa
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« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2012, 06:55:55 AM »

Are you running synthetic oil in it?  If not switch for a smoother tranny.

Yes, I use Honda synthetic recommended oil 10W-40. What it's weird is that it only rubs from 4th to 5th, and only once the bike is warm enough. When cool, it shifts smoothly.

I will try the shifter one click down...
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« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2012, 10:42:35 AM »

And the other thing chris mentioned-shift with a LOT of authority.  cooldude Our ghurls aint wusses and don't like being treated like one.  crazy2 These things require a firm shift. You can't go at it like ya don't mean it.  uglystupid2 RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2012, 04:16:40 PM »

Mine doesn't have any shifting problems using Pennzoil 10-40. I often shift from 4th to 5th when cruising under light power by letting off the throttle and shifting with no clutch. Don't know if you have tried that.
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« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2012, 05:30:04 PM »

...shifting with no clutch.
I only shift without the clutch when I am drunk.  What's your excuse?
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Ricky-D
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« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2012, 09:28:37 AM »

The clutch is there for a reason.

Shifting without using the clutch is not transmission friendly.

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« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2012, 09:43:06 AM »

Who's to say the clutch must be disengaged to change gears? How can shifting without the clutch hurt the transmission, when it changes gears much more smoothly. When done properly you won't feel or hear anything at all just like an automatic. I don't do it all the time, and never from 1st to 2nd, but sometimes when I want to get up to speed quickly and feel like concentrating on it. It's just plain fun sometimes.
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frenteacasa
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« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2012, 10:21:28 AM »

I know there is an old debate about shifting without clutch. Some guys like it and some not. In fact I've tried everything, with and without clutch, as well as preloading the shifter, and always shifting with decision.... No way,... the random rubbing from 4th to 5th is always there. Cry Cry
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Ricky-D
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« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2012, 10:28:53 AM »

Who's to say the clutch must be disengaged to change gears? How can shifting without the clutch hurt the transmission, when it changes gears much more smoothly. When done properly you won't feel or hear anything at all just like an automatic. I don't do it all the time, and never from 1st to 2nd, but sometimes when I want to get up to speed quickly and feel like concentrating on it. It's just plain fun sometimes.

...shifting with no clutch.
I only shift without the clutch when I am drunk.  What's your excuse?

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« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2012, 10:50:47 AM »

I think you missed a gear! Try it sober cooldude
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« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2012, 08:13:51 PM »

...shifting with no clutch.
I only shift without the clutch when I am drunk.  What's your excuse?

When I am on the boulevard, feet up on the pegs and enjoying a cup of Starbucks in my left hand.......its either the coffee or the clutch....clutch loses!!!! coolsmiley
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Ricky-D
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« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2012, 10:46:45 AM »

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the random rubbing from 4th to 5th is always there.

Well, if you can find no problem with the shifter peg and attached parts and no interference is revealed, then sad to say:

You have a problem with the internal parts inside the motor cases. More than likely, one of the shifter forks is bent.

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« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2012, 10:16:42 AM »

Ok. I am moving from the simpler to the more complicated.

First, I tried moving the shifter one click down, but nothing have changed. 

Then I changed oil (the old one had already 6000 miles) from 10W40 to 20W50. Shifting is a bit smoother but not significantly better.

I will install next week a rattlebar kick shifter I got from a scrapyard. I will let you know if it works. If not, I will take it to the dealer.... Hope is not a bent fork .....

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Ricky-D
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« Reply #15 on: November 08, 2012, 11:10:39 AM »

I doubt the "kick shifter" will improve the situation at all.

Those things just make it so you can abuse the transmission shift mechanism more easily and definitively.

Why do you think it's called a "kick shifter"

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