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us385south
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« on: November 29, 2012, 05:18:38 PM »

I have the old girl up on the lift again mostly because I am overtly compulsive...

And... I am taking measurements to fabricate a handle to help lift the bike onto the center stand.

Suddenly, I had a thought. (I know, it doesn't happen often but it does occasionally happen!)

WTFF... Where's The Fuel Filter?

I have called up a few exploded diagrams online... but I am still at a loss...

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« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2012, 05:33:53 PM »

No fuel filter... just a screen in the tank.
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« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2012, 06:24:19 PM »

That screen is your fuel filter. Many have added inline filters, some have even added additional electric cutoff valves. I think the screen does a pretty good job.
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« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2012, 04:42:24 AM »

Gotcha...  I'm guessing there wouldn't be any harm in removing the petcock and just having a look, or is that a no-no?

In such case, it would seem to be that an inline filter might restrict the fuel flow and starve off the carbs at higher RPM's.

Any dialog on this?

I have seen the auto shut-off mod... is it worth it?

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« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2012, 04:46:05 AM »

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Gotcha...  I'm guessing there wouldn't be any harm in removing the petcock and just having a look, or is that a no-no?

In such case, it would seem to be that an inline filter might restrict the fuel flow and starve off the carbs at higher RPM's.

No harm at all as long as you pay attention to detail when you disassemble/reassemble the petcock.  Get the rebuild kit, they come with a new screen and yes, a plugged screen can cause the engine to starve at high RPM.
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« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2012, 05:13:41 PM »

An additional fuel filter, "should" help in the prevention of the dreaded "hydrolock" which is brought on by the failure of the petcock and a stuck float (the second "could" be caused by contamination which the filter "should" have prevented, right?).... I have a fuel filter, cause some told me I should.... don't really know if it is needed.... something about opinions and body parts.... can't remember which ones.... armpits..... opinions and armpits.... everyone has two.... that doesn't sound right????

Good luck!  cooldude

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« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2012, 06:43:26 PM »

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Get the rebuild kit, they come with a new screen

A new petcock (PETCOCK ASSY. 16950-MZ0-033), part number 3 in the illustration below, does include a new Screen Set.  The HDL price is $110.73 and chances are you don't need all-new everything.

The rebuild kit (COVER SET, 16953-MBZ-B51, HDL price $28.91), part number 5 in the illustration below, does not include a new screen (SCREEN SET, 16952-MZ0-003, HDL price $16.15), part number 4 below.   

Link to Standard/Tourer Fuel Tank fiche

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« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2012, 03:03:49 PM »

Thanks Disco... I suspect that a little brake cleaners would go a long way toward cleaning the screen.  I am more of a "soaker" than a "sprayer? anyway...

I have to figure this bike is 14 years old, and when i bought it... my beast had been sitting for two years.  A little preventative maintenance is prolly due.

Next up... the head bearings... maybe the fork seals.  well heck, if I'm gonna go that far,,, I might as well install progressive springs.
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« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2012, 04:29:10 PM »

I recommend that you do not remove the screen unless you have a new one to go back with.  I have never seen one come out without persuasion and that often results in enough damage to cause leaks if reused.  For 16 bux, buy a new one and enjoy years of peace of mind. 

I would, however, recommend a cover set, or at least the K&L Valkyrie Petcock rebuild kit (I got mine at Old Bike Barn).

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« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2012, 07:28:38 AM »

Hey Travis, I have a cover set, screen and o-ring (#6 in the blow-up) if you want or need to replace right away.  Just give me a shout.

About two years ago I was able to pull my petcock, clean the screen and replace without a problem.   I think I was lucky to not have any leaks or problems afterwords. 
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« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2012, 01:07:07 PM »

Thanks again Disco... that is what I wanted to hear... not what the "book" says but general experience of people I trust.

f-stop... as you are just over the hill, I will keep that in mind.  I have time.  I am ordering parts...

Right now I am fabricating a handle to pull the bike onto the center stand.

At current... there are no problems with my fuel delivery but then again, my bike sat outdoors wrapped in a blue tarp for two years before I bought it.... so ya gotta figure there is likely some gas lacquer in the tank.  My issue is this... I might be riding the beast to Utah this summer and I would rather avert issues now than deal with them on the road.

So I am examining everything I can think of that might fail "en cavalcade."

Like I said... It's just me... being my normal compulsive self... and wondering... " Hey man... I have never even seen a fuel filter on this bike. I wonder where it is?"

T
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