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« on: January 21, 2013, 10:17:54 AM » |
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Funny, I did a search for won't start and didn't find anything. The Valk is pretty reliable.  However, at the moment, my 97 std won't start. Battery is good enough to turn it over fine. I have had to put it on the trickle charger after trying to crank and no ignite. I put new NGK DPR7EA-9 plugs in yesterday, the old plugs looked ok. Gaps were good .30 -.35 Probably can't tell much from this:  Any suggestions on what to check next?  thanks. |
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« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2013, 10:23:46 AM » |
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3 things must be present, Fuel, Spark and Compression in the proper sequence.
I would make sure your fuel is turned on then check for adequate spark.
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« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2013, 10:24:47 AM » |
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Check the battery, can you jump it from a car battery ?
MAKE SURE THE CAR IS NOT RUNNING !!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2013, 10:33:28 AM » |
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Battery is good enough to turn it over fine. Although this may seem Ok, it doesn't necessarily remove the battery from the possible cause of your dilemma. The description FINE is subjective to say the least! The first suspect, I would think, should be gasoline related. *** |
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Duffy
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« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2013, 10:37:32 AM » |
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I have checked the gas, there is some. In fact, when I tok out the old plugs, I could smell gas on a couple of the plugs. When I say the battery is fine, I mean that the engine will turn over, no problem. Is there more to it than that? |
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R J
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« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2013, 10:37:43 AM » |
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Didn't see what part of the country you are from, but did you use the choke?
If so was it fully on?
The black knob should be looking directly at the right handlebar.
Crank it and keep your hand off the throttle.
My 97 will fire and idle, but you touch the throttle before it is ready and he is dead.
Also, if you can jump it with a car/truck, NOT RUNNING, and it starts, pull the battery and take it to a Auto Parts store and ask them to do a load test on it.
More than likely if that test fails you have a cell that is getting lazy and you need a new battery.
Let us know the outcome, if you would please.
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« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2013, 10:42:15 AM » |
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Check for a spark b4 you pull the battery. Pull one of the wires and stick a screwdiver inside the boot then hold it about 1/4 " from the engine and crank it. You should have a healthy spark. If no spark at all, don't bother with the battery.
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« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2013, 10:48:14 AM » |
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Ok, now I need a picture of a dumbass (me) smiling....   I did what RJ said, no gas, just choke... cranked right up. Thanks to RJ and all for your suggestions. I am in Atlanta and it is 50+ so I am off for a short ride to warm up the oil, then it is time for an oil change. Thanks again. Duffy  |
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« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2013, 11:01:45 AM » |
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Ok, now I need a picture of a dumbass (me) smiling.... I did what RJ said, no gas, just choke... cranked right up. Thanks to RJ and all for your suggestions. I am in Atlanta and it is 50+ so I am off for a short ride to warm up the oil, then it is time for an oil change. Thanks again. Duffy When it comes to certain temps, the Phat Girl is stubbon and ya got to treat her like we used to treat MULES on the farm. Glad the choke, no throttle made the difference. That is one sweet looking ride. Love those flames on the tank. |
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« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2013, 02:32:16 PM » |
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Actually, when I got back outside to go warm it up (went to the office for a little while) it wouldn't crank again... So I jumped it from the car and it cranked pretty quick (car not running). Anyway, once it warmed up it ran fine and later started fine, but I wonder if the battery still may be an issue. After returning home, I changed the oil n filter and washed it. It was so dirty from being caught in the rain last time out 12/16/12. So I guess I may still need to have my battery checked. Thanks again all. The Tech Board still rocks!  |
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« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2013, 03:02:14 PM » |
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There's no place that can really check the battery!
They do a test that interprets certain characteristics your battery presents and then pronounces your battery GOOD or BAD.
Mainly, it just measures the voltage you battery possesses.
A true test of a battery that I remember use to be a big heavy buss bar with an amp meter attached.
You would take it and short it across the poles of each cell (that was when the cell connections were right there on top to see) and the meter would reveal the total amp the cell could produce.
If you were to test a motorcycle battery in that way you would most likely blow it up.
But,,,, that is the only true way to test the battery - for total ampere output.
Voltage doesn't tell you anything but state of charge - not how strong the staying power of the battery is!
Of course, if the voltage is not where it should be, well, that can also indicate a bad battery.
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