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Author Topic: Stupid question - Don't know the answer so I gotta ask  (Read 2060 times)
Fritz The Cat
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« on: January 24, 2013, 04:28:41 AM »

Which way do you turn the idle adjust knob to increase/decrease idle speed?  Embarrassed

The manual doesn't say and my idle is varying slightly and I just wanna be sure I'm turning it in the right direction as I hunt for the sweet spot.

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« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2013, 04:57:26 AM »

Reasonably sure,,,, clockwise RPM's increase, I bet you can figure what the other direction does?
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« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2013, 05:00:17 AM »

Reasonably sure,,,, clockwise RPM's increase, I bet you can figure what the other direction does?

+1  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2013, 05:13:32 AM »

Reasonably sure,,,, clockwise RPM's increase, I bet you can figure what the other direction does?

+1  Roll Eyes

One more "+1" on that, I just adjusted mine Tuesday after the TW install.
Not the easiest thing to access on my bike. Needed needlenose pliers.

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There are no stupid questions.

However, the impression the questioner leaves may be a different story!!



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« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2013, 05:42:24 AM »

Make sure you warm the bike up good before you do any adjustments to the idle...
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« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2013, 08:20:06 AM »

I use a rather long flat blade screwdriver to adjust it. The knob has raised spots on it and I merely hook the blade behind one and use the intake as a fulcrum.
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« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2013, 12:38:11 PM »

I use a rather long flat blade screwdriver to adjust it. The knob has raised spots on it and I merely hook the blade behind one and use the intake as a fulcrum.


LOL!!!   Yes......have had a few roasted knuckles trying to find that dern knob!!!  But I do it the hard way, regardless.  My idle seems to change with the weather.  Some days I need to nudge it up a tad, and other days,  I can get Her to "tick over" at 500 rpm's.......perfectly. 

Why that is, I may never know.  But depending on weather, I adjust it quite often........ ???

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Fritz The Cat
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« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2013, 06:37:47 AM »

Clockwise looking from the top or from the bottom?? Direction is meaningless without a point of reference.  ???
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« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2013, 07:54:21 AM »

I was thinking the same; looking from the top.
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« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2013, 08:03:51 AM »

There's 3 tangs on the knob head so you can find it with gloves on.  I usually move it olny slightly, and by moving the tang forward (makes the knob clockwise from the bottom) it raises the idle.
The knob is underneath the throttle assembly, pointing up, so it's like a standard bolt.  Tighten to increase idle.
That's my take on it anyway.
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« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2013, 08:20:54 AM »

Is this a serious question? Jeez, you could have tried one direction or the other to see what happens to the RPMs & then go from there in less time than it took to post the question & read the replies.  Roll Eyes
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Fritz The Cat
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« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2013, 02:01:22 PM »

Something must be wrong with mine. I turn it in either direction and the idle doesn't change at all. I haven't turned it all the way in either direction but I have turned it several turns both ways and the idle doesn't change at all. I've never adjusted the idle on a Valk so I have no point of reference there either.

Screw the haters. Why do even bother to respond?  Sad
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« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2013, 02:13:02 PM »

Something must be wrong with mine. I turn it in either direction and the idle doesn't change at all. I haven't turned it all the way in either direction but I have turned it several turns both ways and the idle doesn't change at all. I've never adjusted the idle on a Valk so I have no point of reference there either.

Screw the haters. Why do even bother to respond?  Sad
Not a hater at all. Just pointing out how you might have gotten your answer sooner. If you would have given all of this info in your original post, I wouldn't have given that answer.
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« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2013, 02:13:11 PM »

Carbs must be in sync to set the idle correctly.  Gonna get that done Monday.  cooldude  
 Fritz,sometimes folks forget that not everyone is aware of  some things that they know, you go ahead and ask anything you want to try and gain knowledge.  We will try to help.  Hoser  Smiley
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« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2013, 03:00:26 PM »

Fritz,
You have a good question here. I am with the others here as the only stupid question is the one that wasn't asked.
If you are turning the knob and nothing changes you may have a throttle cable adjustment issue not allowing the throttle cam stop to rest on the screw that moves when the idle knob is turned. If you rotate your throttle you should here the stop on the cable cam hitting this adjustment screw. You don't need the engine running to watch all this work with a flashlight.
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« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2013, 04:52:45 PM »

Something must be wrong with mine. I turn it in either direction and the idle doesn't change at all. I haven't turned it all the way in either direction but I have turned it several turns both ways and the idle doesn't change at all. I've never adjusted the idle on a Valk so I have no point of reference there either.

Screw the haters. Why do even bother to respond?  Sad

No change in idle after adjustment might be related to some of your synch screws are turned in. Bike idles high? When was the last carb synchronization?
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Fritz The Cat
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« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2013, 06:25:22 PM »

Never synced the carbs, think it's time to edjumacate myself as to the process. Gonna do this and also investigate the the throttle cable adjustment. She's always had a tendency to idle high after a ride and any adjustment has been in vain. Need to hit the books.

Thanks all.  cooldude
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Brian
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« Reply #17 on: January 26, 2013, 03:26:03 AM »

I didn't think about the synch screws and wondering if these were the issue you would have other running problems that wasn't mentioned here.

Take your time if you start turning screws and adjustment nuts. All 6 have to work happily together and at the same time. If you don't have a manual use the search here as Dag has one posted as a free download. A manual is a must and will pay for itself many times if you are a DYI'r.

Keep us posted Fritz.
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« Reply #18 on: January 26, 2013, 08:28:27 PM »

I'm thinking that if you put your finger on the adjuster and then flip the throttle to wide open and release it you should be able to feel it hit the end of the screw when it returns to idle.  Maybe your throttle cable is not adjusted properly - overly tight??? 

Sorry but I'mm not going out to my bike at =35 to test the theory so take it with a grain of salt.
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« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2013, 03:35:36 PM »

Is this a serious question? Jeez, you could have tried one direction or the other to see what happens to the RPMs & then go from there in less time than it took to post the question & read the replies.  Roll Eyes



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« Reply #20 on: January 29, 2013, 08:46:39 AM »

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I turn it in either direction and the idle doesn't change at all.

This is indicative of two possible problems.

If there is no over-running during throttle down (idling) you can be pretty confident is is not a synchronization problem where the synchronizing screws are controlling the idle speed settings.

Therefore I would then start to look at the all the throttle parts, cables, linkages, hand throttle, for the problem.

I feel that was a very good suggestion regarding binding of the parts.

Maybe a good way to start would be to get a can of silicon spray and generously spray everything throttle related, and I mean generously, let it run over everything - take off the chrome covers and spray everything and work all the moving parts while doing that.  Use the whole can if necessary.

Make sure you have play in the hand throttle. Feel the looseness when the handlebars are at lock to lock.

The throttle should snap back to the stop like was mentioned in a previous thread.

Do this and see what the results are.

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