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[Smokinjoe-VRCCDS#0005]

I can see why he tied the kid to the bike but I seem to have a problem with it 

To each his own I guess but I'd never do that all I would think about is " What If " .

Photo taken from the front page of US 129 Photo from " The Dragon " .

[MAD6Gun]

 I do have a problem with that. If a kid is too young to ride unrestrained than he should not be on it at all.  If he crashed and the bike started flipping that kid would be dead. This may sound a little paranoid but that is no way to ride on a motorcycle.

I remember years ago I heard of a congressman or a senator in DC that said motorcycles should have seat belts. Oh yeas that's good. If I ever "layed" it down for any reason the last thing I want to do is be sliding down the highway strapped to it, Jeez......

[Tonysax]

  I'm with you Joe, to each his own. But being a dad......

[Serk]

Ouch, that is rather troubling... I ride with my 6 year old on the back, but I wouldn't tie her to the bike or to me... I DO periodically make sure she's still holding on (I wear a belt with handles for her to hold on to, it's easy to see if her hands are on the holds), and we only take short rides (20 miles max, although I'm slowly stretching it out, it'll be years before I'm ready to take her on anything like 129!)

[Brad]

Hey when some of my kids were younger they would try and fall asleep back there.  We would be riding along and then "thunk" as the kids head floped forward causing helmet to helmet contact.  I would sometime have to pinch the kids leg to make sure they did not fall asleep.

[fudgie]

Maybe its a dummy?  Steamer has had 'stuff' strapped to the back of his bike before. 

[fiddle mike]

I do have a problem with that. If a kid is too young to ride unrestrained than he should not be on it at all.  If he crashed and the bike started flipping that kid would be dead. This may sound a little paranoid but that is no way to ride on a motorcycle.

I remember years ago I heard of a congressman or a senator in DC that said motorcycles should have seat belts. Oh yeas that's good. If I ever "layed" it down for any reason the last thing I want to do is be sliding down the highway strapped to it, Jeez......

I recall a legislator from one of the corn belt states wanting to require seat belts on motorcycles and  trikes banned from any highway in America. NHSTA warns against belting kids or riders to motorcycles, by the way.  I guess she missed that while researching for her bill.

[Willow]

Sometimes people have really good intentions and really bad ideas.

I believe this one qualifies.   

[fiddle mike]

Sometimes people have really good intentions and really bad ideas.

I believe this one qualifies.   

Well, we know what road is paved with good intentions.   

[Willow]

Well, we know what road is paved with good intentions   

Hell?  No?   

[fiddle mike]

Well, we know what road is paved with good intentions   

Hell?  No?   

Hell, yes.

[Willow]

Well, we know what road is paved with good intentions   

Hell?  No?   

Hell, yes.

 

[Smokinjoe-VRCCDS#0005]

Sometimes people have really good intentions and really bad ideas.

I believe this one qualifies.   

I agree ...Maybe the little one has come close to falling off in nappy time before...But " What If " keeps screamin' at me.My wife has done that so many times I could'nt count them but I never thought about doggin' her down to the trunk.

[PAVALKER]

I think if you consider the odds.,.... having the little one strapped in is better than having him fall off.  The chances of him falling off are probably much higher than if there would be  an accident, and he somehow stayed with the bike, when it could very well be worse if he was thrown off the bike.  No doubt there would be an accident without the strap, where now he is just another piece of luggage along for the ride. The issue here is should the little one even be on a bike??  I have seen grown women dozing off and leaning over (almost off) on other bikes, and some where strapped in while others were not.  

Isn't that how seat belts became mandatory equipment for automobiles???   I know we survived as kids with mom or dad's arm in front of us at a quick stop etc.  Someone in their infinate wisdom thought seat belts saved lives and look what happened.  

[Dag]

I`m not sure if the kid is sleaping or maybe have a kind of disability?
BUT there are riding belts available. I`m not 100% comfortable with the riding belt, but its a much better alternative.

[fiddle mike]

I think if you consider the odds.,.... having the little one strapped in is better than having him fall off.

Isn't that how seat belts became mandatory equipment for automobiles???   I know we survived as kids with mom or dad's arm in front of us at a quick stop etc.  Someone in their infinate wisdom thought seat belts saved lives and look what happened.  

NHSTA says not to strap a kid on either the bike or the rider.  I don't believe an adult can fall off a bike, or even be pushed off.

[Stanley Steamer]

Maybe its a dummy?  Steamer has had 'stuff' strapped to the back of his bike before. 

Mercedez is my "Air Bag"...in the event of a rear end crash, she cushions me!!... .... ... ..

[Normandog]

Sometimes people have really good intentions and really bad ideas.

I believe this one qualifies.   

 

[Big IV]

I agree that a kid should be old enough to sit up, hold up, and enjoy to be big enough to take a ride on the back. I'd also agree from first look that this kid doesn't have the stamina for whatever ride he's being taken on.  Although my next thought is that my wife has tried falling asleep back there...sometimes as pilot I forget (or chose to forget) what kind of ride she can sign on for at times.
I've never tied her to the back, and probably never will, but after she's banged into me and started slipping one way or another...the thought does occur to me on occasion.

to each their own.

Just my 2 cents, which probably aren't worth even that in this economy.

[PAVALKER]

I think if you consider the odds.,.... having the little one strapped in is better than having him fall off.

Isn't that how seat belts became mandatory equipment for automobiles???   I know we survived as kids with mom or dad's arm in front of us at a quick stop etc.  Someone in their infinate wisdom thought seat belts saved lives and look what happened.  

NHSTA says not to strap a kid on either the bike or the rider.  I don't believe an adult can fall off a bike, or even be pushed off.

I understand what NHSTA states and believe for the most part there is good reason for that.  However, without the strap, the child could and probably would have fell off.  In NHSTA theory, the child should not have been strapped on and if it is a violation of a NHSTA law the intent of the law would be to not have the child ride on the back if he can't stay awake and hold on.  As for adults falling off or being pushed off...... I think I have seen riders themselves (not only passengers)  fall off (I believe there was a picture of a HD Rider taking a lean too far  and he fell off).   So considering the alternative of either having the kid fall off or at least stay on the bike........(yes, god forbid the What IF happens).... I think it was a wise choice considering.  But...  the kid should not be a passenger if he can't stay awake.  I have seen grown women slumped over leaning to one side or another.... and worry about them. 

[fiddle mike]

I think if you consider the odds.,.... having the little one strapped in is better than having him fall off.

Isn't that how seat belts became mandatory equipment for automobiles???   I know we survived as kids with mom or dad's arm in front of us at a quick stop etc.  Someone in their infinate wisdom thought seat belts saved lives and look what happened.  

NHSTA says not to strap a kid on either the bike or the rider.  I don't believe an adult can fall off a bike, or even be pushed off.

I understand what NHSTA states and believe for the most part there is good reason for that.  However, without the strap, the child could and probably would have fell off.  In NHSTA theory, the child should not have been strapped on and if it is a violation of a NHSTA law the intent of the law would be to not have the child ride on the back if he can't stay awake and hold on.  As for adults falling off or being pushed off...... I think I have seen riders themselves (not only passengers)  fall off (I believe there was a picture of a HD Rider taking a lean too far  and he fell off).   So considering the alternative of either having the kid fall off or at least stay on the bike........(yes, god forbid the What IF happens).... I think it was a wise choice considering.  But...  the kid should not be a passenger if he can't stay awake.  I have seen grown women slumped over leaning to one side or another.... and worry about them. 

The HD rider in the Gap over rode his skill, he didnt merely fall off.  That sort of thing is mentioned in the Hurt Report.
I don't think a passenger could jump off If I didn't want her to.
NTHSA is involved with safety standards, not local traffic law.
 In my state the kid is only required to wear a helmet and the bike must be equipped to carry a passenger. I won't carry a kid if he can't reach the foot pegs.

[rfsrider]

I would say based on the bag strapped to the rack on the back of the bike, they were on a highway trip. I'm totally against the idea of strapping a kid to the back of the bike, it just doesn't sit well with me. The other thing is that kid was in for a heck of a wind burned face with the visor up like that.
The wife has nodded off many a time on the back of our I/S. She calls it her mobile lazy boy...go figure. The only incident she had was a hot foot when her foot fell off the peg and rested against the exhaust. Installing foot boards cured that.

Ride safe

[Dogg]

ok, wait, this picture is taken on the dragon, with a kid tied to the backrest-asleep....I know its the rider that makes it dangerous but from what ive seen on the dragon, some of them sporties are on suicide missions and would gladly take a big old lug of a bike with them...

  My wife, as little as she is, falls asleep on the back, only cuz it so comfy. But when we did the dragon, she was wide awake and rippin ribs off of me. No, this is a really bad scenario, on that road with that small of a child whod oesnt belong there in the first place let alone on 129...