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« on: February 23, 2013, 05:35:13 AM » |
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Guys, I know we have posted a lot on here about rear spline lube to use. My first go around with the Honda moly was just as predicted. It doesn't stay in place. I switched to GD-535 last spring and getting ready to pull the rear wheel off today to see how this product held up over the last year. Being a bit of a cheap skate I really hate to throw the rest of the Honda moly in the trash. Just to use this product up I was thinking of mixing it with the GD to see how it will work. Maybe they won't even mix and be compatible. Has anyone out there mixed the Honda moly with GD-535.
If I find something surprising I will post pictures to report on the GD product. And yes I know they advertise here to help keep the lights on.
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Gryphon Rider
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« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2013, 07:05:25 AM » |
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I highly doubt there is a chemical incompatibility between the two. If you think product A is inferior to product B, why not just give product A to someone who would be happy with it? And why would you want to make a mixture that is half inferior? FWIW I haven't had problems with the Honda stuff.
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Chrisj CMA
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« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2013, 11:08:12 AM » |
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Dont mix it. Use the Honda stuff on the drive shaft (both ends) and the guard dog on the drive splines. No waste and all will be well
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« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2013, 11:29:42 AM » |
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Sorry Chris: The paste is 60% moly and is not the product for the drive shaft. The OEM manual calls for moly grease which is 2% minimum moly. I use Valvoline Durablend moly grease (3%) on the shaft splines. Ratdog up in Seattle made a "Smooie" of paste and Bel Ray grease (50/50) and used it on the wheel splines with perfect results. The grease stayed put with no rust or wear.
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Chrisj CMA
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« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2013, 03:06:39 PM » |
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Sorry Chris: The paste is 60% moly and is not the product for the drive shaft. The OEM manual calls for moly grease which is 2% minimum moly. I use Valvoline Durablend moly grease (3%) on the shaft splines. Ratdog up in Seattle made a "Smooie" of paste and Bel Ray grease (50/50) and used it on the wheel splines with perfect results. The grease stayed put with no rust or wear.
OK.....whatever you want........just dont read the fine print on that tube of so called 60% moly paste. It says USE WHERE MOLY GREASE IS INDICATED It says that because its a weak moly grease not a paste like advertised. I have used on my drive shaft for 130K miles and it looks like new |
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Chrisj CMA
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« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2013, 04:59:27 PM » |
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Sorry Chris: The paste is 60% moly and is not the product for the drive shaft. The OEM manual calls for moly grease which is 2% minimum moly. I use Valvoline Durablend moly grease (3%) on the shaft splines. Ratdog up in Seattle made a "Smooie" of paste and Bel Ray grease (50/50) and used it on the wheel splines with perfect results. The grease stayed put with no rust or wear.
Mixing a good moly product with a good waterproof grease is great (I do that too) but mixing a good moly product with a poor moly product only degrades the good product. Good luck........I already know what works, I wont argue with you |
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Brian
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« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2013, 05:08:37 AM » |
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Guys,
I did not mix the two yeterday as the honda moly is almost gone anyway. And like few here I did not want to make a good product bad.
+1 on the GD-535 on the rear splines and in the pinion cup. A little grease was spun out and on the wheel hub with more than enough still on the splines. And yes I used 3 new o-rings last season. I almost put everything back together for another year but didn't. I also used the GD on the shaft/u-joint splines last season. Here again, it stayed on the slines when mixed with a little Lucas water proof green grease. I repeated this proceedure yesterday.
So far I am very happy with this product.
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Momz
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« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2013, 08:24:53 AM » |
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Some renowned Honda/BMW techs now use "Belray Assembly Lube". It compares well to "Guard Dog 525".
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« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2013, 09:10:55 AM » |
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Some renowned Honda/BMW techs ... Who might they be? |
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Thanks,
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« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2013, 09:49:44 AM » |
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Some renowned Honda/BMW techs now use "Belray Assembly Lube". It compares well to "Guard Dog 525".
I'm not a renowned mechanic, but have been using Belray Assembly Lube with good results.  |
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« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2013, 03:11:57 PM » |
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Some renowned Honda/BMW techs ... Who might they be? I know several "Honda Certified Master Technicians" and two "BMW Factory Certified Specialists", not just the typical MMI graduates. There is a difference. |
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