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Author Topic: Lost headlights this morning  (Read 1615 times)
Mr.BubblesVRCCDS0008
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« on: March 16, 2013, 08:48:07 AM »

 2000 interstate. Headlights would not come on this morning and the  dash blinker lights were light up dimly. I"m firguring that I lost a ground some where in the system. I was working under the fairing in Dec. think I didn't get one of the plugs back completely.
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« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2013, 02:09:34 PM »

Have you checked your start button has returned to neutral after pushing the starter?
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« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2013, 06:54:48 PM »

I'd pull and test the battery first thing. Will the bike start? just no headlights?
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Mr.BubblesVRCCDS0008
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« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2013, 02:48:41 AM »

I found the problem yesterday afternoon. It was my headlight modulator that went out. Only bought it in nov. so I'll see about it warranty tomorrow.
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Ricky-D
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« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2013, 08:00:20 AM »

Are you running anything other than stock wattage headlight bulbs?

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« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2013, 12:35:43 PM »

No just stock wattage. Unit was said up to handle 130 watts. It was a plug and play installation.
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« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2013, 07:04:33 PM »

Which brand modulator?

IS has 2 stock 55W (?) bulbs, doesn't it?
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« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2013, 10:09:41 PM »

I have had two occasions this winter in which the 15A headlight fuse blew.  Actually on the third occasion, I noticed the bright/dim switch seemed to be kinda half way.....not on hi and not on low beam..Guess what, in this state, all 4 filaments were on!, each headlight is 60/55W (upgraded bulbs).....it would take 2-3 minutes and the fuse would blow.  I think wearing heavy gloves due to cold weather cause the switch to be bumped to half on half off and all four filaments to burn.  If this happened to you with modulator, it might exceed the wattage of your modulator.... crazy2
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« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2013, 10:07:55 AM »

The stock Interstate bulbs are 45/45 watt.

I've modulators on my Interstate and have gone with 60/55 watt bulbs.  (That's what is printed on the bulb base)

Just wondering if I need to keep an eye out for similar troubles.

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« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2013, 03:04:24 PM »

Ricky....can your hi/lo switch be positioned such that all 4 filaments are on....wonder if the contacts in my switch are getting a bit sloppy.
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« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2013, 06:15:51 PM »

The stock Interstate bulbs are 45/45 watt.

I've modulators on my Interstate and have gone with 60/55 watt bulbs.  (That's what is printed on the bulb base)

Just wondering if I need to keep an eye out for similar troubles.

If I understand the numbers correctly, then 45W on low + an additional 45W on high (90W) x 2 bulbs, puts the Valk IS at 180W. A lot higher than the rated 130W of the modulator.

I was asking brand, because I came up with a solution for Bikker Buddy's head light modulator, and have been busy testing it over the last 6 months for them. I have only had the cover of the modulator melt, from heat from the SCR heat sink. That was running a stock bulb (45W/45W) and an auto bulb, which I think was 55W/55W.

I'm going to mount it into my 88' GW sometime soon, and continue my testing full time there.
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« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2013, 09:08:58 PM »

The stock Interstate bulbs are 45/45 watt.

I've modulators on my Interstate and have gone with 60/55 watt bulbs.  (That's what is printed on the bulb base)

Just wondering if I need to keep an eye out for similar troubles.

If I understand the numbers correctly, then 45W on low + an additional 45W on high (90W) x 2 bulbs, puts the Valk IS at 180W. A lot higher than the rated 130W of the modulator.

I was asking brand, because I came up with a solution for Bikker Buddy's head light modulator, and have been busy testing it over the last 6 months for them. I have only had the cover of the modulator melt, from heat from the SCR heat sink. That was running a stock bulb (45W/45W) and an auto bulb, which I think was 55W/55W.

I'm going to mount it into my 88' GW sometime soon, and continue my testing full time there.




The stock IS headlights are 45/45.....when on high beam the lo beam filaments are extinguished, otherwise you would be constantly be blowing the headlight fuse which is only 15A.  15A times 12V=180W , no margin on the fuse capacity....
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« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2013, 09:09:37 AM »

Ricky....can your hi/lo switch be positioned such that all 4 filaments are on....wonder if the contacts in my switch are getting a bit sloppy.

No, sure can't.

There is a definite off between the two switch positions. (low-high)

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« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2013, 12:10:56 PM »

Ricky....can your hi/lo switch be positioned such that all 4 filaments are on....wonder if the contacts in my switch are getting a bit sloppy.


No, sure can't.

There is a definite off between the two switch positions. (low-high)

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According to RP's schematics, the Hi/Lo switch is "make before break" which means that both high and low beams are energized for a brief moment. 

http://www.rattlebars.com/valkfaq/schematics/rpage04i.html

A switch stuck halfway would illuminate both for a longer period, causing overload problems.
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« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2013, 02:52:38 PM »

I am incorrect about the switch.

I just went out and checked and both are on for an instant.

You have to control the switch in an abnormal way to get the effect but the both can be on at the same time.

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« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2013, 04:34:05 PM »

Thanks Ricky-D and Valkpilot....it might be worth taking the switch apart and doing a clean and lube.  Combination of wear and tear and cold weather requiring thick cumbersome gloves contribute to getting stuck in an in-between state and illuminating all four filaments.

The fuse has not blown again since I have been aware of the in between state, so I think it is safe to believe its not something else.

Thanks again.
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Mr.BubblesVRCCDS0008
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« Reply #16 on: March 28, 2013, 05:23:53 PM »

My unit was a Signal Dynamics and was a plug and play unit for dual headlights and was rated for up to 130 watts. New one on the way from Custom Dynamics.
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Rio Wil
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« Reply #17 on: March 28, 2013, 06:46:08 PM »

If you were victim of the switch in a half way position, both hi and lo beams could be on, this represents 180W with stock bulbs .....well above your device rating...

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Mr.BubblesVRCCDS0008
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« Reply #18 on: March 28, 2013, 07:45:25 PM »

I ran one of these for over a year before it went out. I had got it second hand from a buddy  who had switch to HID lighting. I know that it will work  with the bulbs I have. Just think I may have gotten a bad one.
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