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pancho
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« on: March 22, 2013, 04:09:37 PM »

I got the wheel in I purchased from pinwall without ever seeing the thrust washer surface. Not only is that surface in perfect condition, the wheel has an Avon Venom tire that still has many of the nubs on it. I have my wing drive with good splines from eBay and an almost perfect flange is coming.... along with some seals, dampers, shims and small bits from Partzilla, I will be ready to do the rear..... It really looked like trouble when I first saw the damage, but with your expertise I will get out of it for not much more cost than a new rear tire. The original wheel will be a project for another day,,  It won't be long now boys.... 

well, there is the carbs....  and the desmog,,,, and the work truck that was wrecked....  and the wheel polishing.... and the roof leak

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sandy
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« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2013, 05:51:42 PM »

That Venom hasn't been made in a few years. Check the date code and don't trust it "fast" or out of town.
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pancho
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« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2013, 06:00:09 PM »

10/4 I'll check it now,,,, it does look almost brand new, but I will check the date... Thanks
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Oklahoma_Valk
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« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2013, 06:08:58 PM »

Ditto what Sandy said. Some guys wont run an old tire, some will. Personally, I go wayyyy too fast to place my life in the hands of an old tire. All that said...it may be just fine. Just keep an eye on that tire for the first few hundred miles. Make sure there arent any signs of bubbling or delamination.

Happy for you about the wheel! I need to order a set of thrust washers. They are $7 a piece from HDL. Where did you order yours from? Partzilla?

Most here use Redeye Tech for all things carb/fuel related. He sells a desmog kit too. You might think about adding a dan-marc valve while you're in there. I put one on mine not long ago, and sure do enjoy the peace of mind. As well as not having to turn the fuel valve to OFF every time I park/start the bike.

ps It's never finished! LOL

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pancho
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« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2013, 08:21:22 PM »

I checked the date code on that Avon Venom, and most conscious people would not ride on it because of it's age!!! But it looks almost brand new with NO sign of deterioration, it was certainly not out in the weather, and it was not used much. Also I don't feel like I want to change two tires around right now,, at least until I get a couple of new tire tools. I took the front one off the other day so I can clean up the rim, and put on a new Dunlop, and with rim protectors in the way for these alloy wheels, changing a tire can be a bear.

I will try the Avon out when I get on the road and take it easy until I am satisfied it is OK, or it needs to came off.

I checked out the HDL site and most things are very comparable with Partzilla.. although on some bigger ticket items, it may pay to check both. I will check out Redeye when carb time comes.
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« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2013, 03:28:17 PM »

I used to run the maintenance program on Nationally stocked military equipment.  The biggest issue with old rubber is crystallization from ozone.  High ozone levels come with high humidity levels.  If it was stored well, humidity control, petrol coat in and out, it might be good as new.  surface cracks are the big issue, especially on a tubeless because air pressure propagates the crack.  Don't forget the inside is a surface as well and needs the same inspections if not one with greater attention to detail.  To be safe you have to be sure.

Ride sure.
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pancho
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« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2013, 09:02:21 PM »

Well that is all good information valhalla,, thanks... of course this tire was not " humidity control, petrol coat in and out" but it is still looking as good to me as the day it was made..... on the OUTSIDE...  I do not plan on breaking it down unless it feels unfamiliar or out of whack when I get on the road. Do you think the interior could be degraded worse than the outer surfaces???
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Oklahoma_Valk
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« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2013, 09:09:55 PM »

the degradation will not rear its head until the tire is inflated and under load.
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Thulsa Doom
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« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2013, 04:10:36 AM »

How old is 'Too old'?
How old is the tire in question?
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« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2013, 05:08:08 AM »

I checked the date code on that Avon Venom, and most conscious people would not ride on it because of it's age!!! But it looks almost brand new with NO sign of deterioration, it was certainly not out in the weather, and it was not used much. Also I don't feel like I want to change two tires around right now,, at least until I get a couple of new tire tools. I took the front one off the other day so I can clean up the rim, and put on a new Dunlop, and with rim protectors in the way for these alloy wheels, changing a tire can be a bear.

I will try the Avon out when I get on the road and take it easy until I am satisfied it is OK, or it needs to came off.

I checked out the HDL site and most things are very comparable with Partzilla.. although on some bigger ticket items, it may pay to check both. I will check out Redeye when carb time comes.
Ride it, the tire will be fine.  If not, you put on a new one when it fails.  Send it to me if you don't want it.  Hoser  Wink
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Ricky-D
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« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2013, 10:03:03 AM »

How old is 'Too old'?
How old is the tire in question?

I think the general consensus is that 5 to 7 years is the useful lifetime of a tire.

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pancho
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« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2013, 12:11:55 PM »

  The tire is ten years old,,,,, and a few months,,,,,,     still     I figure the same as Hoser on this one... It just looks too good not to put it on!!    AND, it is on the rear.

NO HOSER...  Get Back,,, You can't have my tire!
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Ricky-D
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« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2013, 12:30:02 PM »

I also agree with that!

After a good inspection, if it looks good, I'd have no hesitation to use it.

Of course, I'm not talking setting speed records either.

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« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2013, 06:46:14 AM »

Anybody recall that Venoms were known for failure and the Cobras replaced them? My buddy had relatively new Venoms on his HD Heritage and blew the rear tire. I have heard of other similar occurrences. Ride Safe!
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