Wicked wreck!

[Bullgoose]

This guy gives us all a bad name.

Motorcycle Crashes into Bicycles 4/27/2013	powered by Aeva

[mario]

i realize this can happen anywhere, but what i don't get is why a bicyclist would ride on a road, out of aaaaaaaall the roads that can be ridden in socal, where it's a knowner that this particular road, the snake, is rode and driven by speedster mc's and cars. 

[Robdawg13]

i realize this can happen anywhere, but what i don't get is why a bicyclist would ride on a road, out of aaaaaaaall the roads that can be ridden in socal, where it's a knowner that this particular road, the snake, is rode and driven by speedster mc's and cars. 

You've got to be kidding me!  Bicyclist has just as much right to be there as anyone else and was WELL to the right.  This is a classic case of target fixation on the part of the motorcyclist.  Comments like yours blaming the bicyclist are no different than people blaming a motocyclist after an accident and if someone did that you'd probably be the first one screaming about it.

[Rocketman]

Bicycles:  The only vehicle on the road that loses in a collision with us.

I have to agree that the bicyclists were perfectly right to be where they were.  It IS a dangerous road to be on, but they're not making it dangerous.  Out of control drivers/riders are making it dangerous.  Pretty obviously target fixation in this one.  He appeared to be doing fine until he spotted the bike.

Mark

[BeeSharp]

i realize this can happen anywhere, but what i don't get is why a bicyclist would ride on a road, out of aaaaaaaall the roads that can be ridden in socal, where it's a knowner that this particular road, the snake, is rode and driven by speedster mc's and cars. 

You've got to be kidding me!  Bicyclist has just as much right to be there as anyone else and was WELL to the right.  This is a classic case of target fixation on the part of the motorcyclist.  Comments like yours blaming the bicyclist are no different than people blaming a motocyclist after an accident and if someone did that you'd probably be the first one screaming about it.

  Good response! I'm still PO'ed by getting buzzed by a couple cars on Sunday morning when out on the bicycle, so my response wouldn't be as nice.

[Disco]

The collision was clearly caused by the motorcyclist.

However, it is a fair question to ask why the bicyclists would choose to ride a road that is congested, or potentially more dangerous than average, or extremely popular with the motorsports enthusiasts.    

It is also impossible to fault the logic voiced, I believe on the General Board, that just like we can't ride our motorcycles on bike trails, why should one be allowed to ride bicycles on roads they don't contribute to with license fees or gasoline taxes?   ???   

I'm not suggesting one should have to license their bicycles.  I do wish, though, that I could ride on bike trails!   

[LandElephant]

It's why they are called "public" roads and not car or motorcycle roads. They probably pay taxes and are licensed for using a motor vehicle. They choose to ride on a "public" road.

Charlie Morse
Land Elephant

[RainMaker]

Goose, Yes, that was a wicked wreck.  As with others, I agree on target fixation.

Charlie - by the same logic, I can walk or ride a bicycle though some of the south Dallas neighborhoods that the police are afraid to drive thru or many other places where angels fear to tread.  Taxes paid for those roads. But there is no way I will ride a bicycle or even drive in those areas.

Considering the number of motorcycles that wipe out in that same section of highway, why would you ride a slow moving vehicle with minimal protection on that curve in the crash zone? 

Having the right to do something is one thing - having the common sense not to do it is another. 

I don't recall seeing any bicycles on US129.

[BeeSharp]

I don't recall seeing any bicycles on US129.

Bicycles start seeing them! 

[Bullgoose]

I've ridden that road 100x. I've seen bikes crash there. Got real crazy for awhile, till the CHP started hassling everybody on the weekends. But that cut out the hot-doggin'  (almost!).
All those roads in the Malibu mtn's are big-time recreational roads on the weekends and, except for newbies, everyone knows that. For the most part, everyone gets along and looks out for others sharing the road. This rider didn't know what he was doing.
Once again, ignorance is the problem!

$.03

[mario]

i realize this can happen anywhere, but what i don't get is why a bicyclist would ride on a road, out of aaaaaaaall the roads that can be ridden in socal, where it's a knowner that this particular road, the snake, is rode and driven by speedster mc's and cars. 

You've got to be kidding me!  Bicyclist has just as much right to be there as anyone else and was WELL to the right.  This is a classic case of target fixation on the part of the motorcyclist.  Comments like yours blaming the bicyclist are no different than people blaming a motocyclist after an accident and if someone did that you'd probably be the first one screaming about it.

i never said the bicyclist didn't have the right to ride on that particular road, i question the wisdom in doing so.   

[us385south]

Last tuesday I was driving (in the Ford) home from Seguin, headed north toward San Marcos.  For those of you that might be unfamiliar with that stretch of Texas 123, it is a smooth well graded connected four lane highway with NO SHOULDER what so ever... that runs dead arrow straight from I-10 in Seguin to San Marcos.  It appears to be a lonely rural highway, but is in fact known to the DPS and TxDOT as a deathtrap... racking up lots of serious high speed collisions and maintains a high annual death count.

The speed limit is 65... most folks drive about 80.  I typically tend toward the pokey side of this number set.

At just about thirty minutes past dusk... at just that time when true darkness had descended... I ran up on two cyclists riding abreast in the right hand lane.  Pointy helmets... black stretchy pants... no lights and just two tiny reflectors about the size of half dollars.  One on each saddle...

I just barely missed them... barely.

I understand their "right" to ride the road... but I do not understand why anyone would be so moronic as to ride there... at that particular time.  That's just retarded!  And what about my "right" to expect their vehicles to meet certain minimal safety considerations for visibility?

T

[Stormrider65]

Target fixation tends to get some people in trouble.  Bicycles have the right to be on the same roads as us, but like others on here that posted, I question the decision to ride on a road that is this dangerous.  I myself have not ridden the Dragon yet, but I have been warned many times by others it is dangerous.  I believe it was on the boob tube as one of the 10 most dangerous roads in the world. 

Walt