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« on: May 02, 2013, 09:31:48 PM » |
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I bought my 2001 Valkyrie Standard about a month ago and hate the way the shifter and footboards are set up. As you can see from the photos below, I can't get my toe under the toe shifter and the heel shifter is so low that to up shift I have to straighten my left knee, rise a little in the seat to get my heel low enough to shift to a higher gear. I asked my stealer (who was happy to sell and install new tires and brakes) what is wrong? Is the shifter upside down? The stealer service manager assured me that the shifter is not upside down. How could it be upside down given the location of the slot that actuates the toe shifter? Any advice will be gratefully received with thanks, Ian in Lethbridge    |
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R J
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« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2013, 09:45:13 PM » |
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It looks like the floor board is as fault.
Not too sure as to how that floorboad mounts but it should not be that high.
Can't really tell if it is a Kickshifter or not, but it is built along the Kickshifter lines.
If we don't get the snow they have predicted I'll go out to the garage tomorrow and shoot a picture of mine. It is a Kickshifter and Cobra Boards.
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Garland
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« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2013, 12:09:09 AM » |
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It looks like the floorboards are on backwards. The tapered side should be to the front.
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ValkFlyer
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« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2013, 01:35:11 AM » |
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There appears to be a number of things going on here: One, the shifter is mounted improperly. It should be mounted to the top right bolt hole. In addition to the floor board appearing to be mounted on the wrong side of the bike. The entire plate holding the F/B seems to be to far forward, this also leads me to believe it's on the wrong side. I'm not familiar with that particular F/B but that's how it appears to me. There also appears to be some type of modification plate that was added. Perhaps the plate in back of the F/B plate was added originally to drop the floor board down, but instead they mounted it to not only on the wrong side of the bike but mounted the shifter were the floor board bolt should go. Last, I'd be willing to bet that your front shifter has also been drilled and modified in an attempt to make this all work, my guess now after having said all this is whoever went to all this trouble wore a boot with a relatively high heel that he/she rested over the F/B and on top of the back kick shift actuator. You just need the right boots and you've addressed your problem. Sorry couldn't resist.  In case you're interested below is a picture of mine. That is a single plate everything is mounted to.  |
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« Last Edit: May 03, 2013, 02:55:28 AM by ValkFlyer »
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BouleValk
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« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2013, 05:24:53 AM » |
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Hi, First thing is too switch footboards vice versa, in otherwords you want too put the narrow part of footboard towards the front of bike, And then loosen the small bolt that holds the stock shifter peg then pull shiftwr forward and rotate it clockwise a seration are two It will lower the front of your kickshifter downwards giving you clearance for toes and also will raise the rear of kickshifter for easier shifting Smile... BOULEVALK
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Gryphon Rider
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« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2013, 06:14:39 AM » |
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Compared to the photo below, your floorboard is way too high. Is there some kind of adapter under it that raises it to its current position?  |
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« Last Edit: May 03, 2013, 11:36:56 AM by Gryphon Rider »
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9Ball
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« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2013, 10:22:45 AM » |
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Based on what you are showing us here, I'd be very suspicious of any other mods this prior owner hacked onto your new bike.
You may want to go over it with a fine tooth comb and a torque wrench...and check any wiring this guy might have done....I would remove the rear wheel and inspect the final drive, etc....and make sure all is well.
Good luck...I can't believe anyone rode that bike with the floorboard/shifter setup the way it is shown...some people...SMH
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Gary
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« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2013, 10:50:41 AM » |
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It looks like you might have a form of a peg lowering adapter used, maybe just incorrect mounting. The standard mount location for the heel/toe shifter is the top right. Here's a shot of mine with a Cobra floorboard for a general idea of fitment.  |
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BradValk48237
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« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2013, 07:48:13 AM » |
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Ditto on Gryphon..
Those are the stock mount for a Harley... there needs to be an adaptor for metric cruisers to lower the board for those Cobra boards....
Also if you search for floorboards specifically for a Valkyrie... those don't come up.... If you search on Harley they come up.....
I think he just had or got these floorboards and bolted them on. They most likely are not made or recommended to work on a Valkyrie....... SO you might not even get them to work if you get the adaptors to lower them.....
You might just want to save the trouble of trying to make those work and get a set made for a Valk...
BTW I have the Cobra Swept and like them , but you do have to get used to them when shifting... and a big honkin boot toe does make it harder.....
Hope this helps.
Brad
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t-man403
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« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2013, 08:28:54 AM » |
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How the heck do you guys fit your foot in there?!! ???
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R J
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« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2013, 08:42:36 AM » |
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They don't, that is the question, what is wrong, other than wrong brackets and the floor board on the wrong sides.
Totally screwed up.
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« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2013, 03:12:21 PM » |
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I want to thank everybody for taking the time to examine the photos and to offer advice. I am now persuaded that these are the wrong footboards for my Valkyrie and for that reason I am waiting to take snail-mail delivery of a pair of OEM pegs that I purchased through classified. I could possibly try the old foot boards in place of my passenger pegs but then they won’t match anything else!
Until I try the set-up with OEM pegs, I won’t know how well the shifter will work. I am grateful for the support.
Ian in Lethbridge
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Karen
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« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2013, 09:24:54 PM » |
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They are correct about the shifter needing to be mounted to the higher bolt. It might raise it up enough so that it would work correctly, maybe not.
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judd
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« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2013, 10:41:09 AM » |
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As Gryphon Rider has stated those are universal boards for passenger use on the Valk seen here on mine. The shifter appears to be mounted correctly, what you have there is a Rattlebars peg lowering kit as well, do not remount to the top position it will be too high then, you just require the right pegs or boards and you're good to go and don't be gentle with it, it is called a kick shifter for a reason, stab it when up shifting, you're gonna love it.   |
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Brian
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« Reply #15 on: May 05, 2013, 01:49:03 PM » |
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I feel the foot peg mounting plate should be moved rearward on the adapter plate to share the same hole as the pivot bolt for linkage. The floor board is too far forward for this set-up. Even with the OEM peg you may still have problems.
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judd
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« Reply #16 on: May 05, 2013, 03:36:04 PM » |
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I feel the foot peg mounting plate should be moved rearward on the adapter plate to share the same hole as the pivot bolt for linkage. The floor board is too far forward for this set-up. Even with the OEM peg you may still have problems.
Negative, there will be no problems with a stock peg, mine was mounted exactly the same. Moving the plate rearward defeats the plates purpose of moving the pegs 2" forward and as intended. Check Gryphon's close up photo. There is one hole an inch back you could try moving the plate back there, you still won't be able to get you're toe under the shift peg but you don't have to, just use you're heel to up shift as intended, this may give more room to step on the toe peg for down shifts and just might be the ticket. You could try swapping board sides as well. |
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Crazyhorse
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« Reply #17 on: May 05, 2013, 03:51:02 PM » |
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That is a Rattlebars relocation kit and the shifter is bolted to the right hold. You can move it forward (another hole to the front of that one) but I find that location works best. This kit lowers the foot peggs / foot board. As for the floor boards they are not mounted right, you might be able to buy an adapter to lower them if you find out who makes them. With the OEM foot pegg you have coming you will be in fine.
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judd
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« Reply #18 on: May 05, 2013, 06:03:21 PM » |
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That is a Rattlebars relocation kit and the shifter is bolted to the right hold. You can move it forward (another hole to the front of that one) but I find that location works best. This kit lowers the foot peggs / foot board. As for the floor boards they are not mounted right, you might be able to buy an adapter to lower them if you find out who makes them. With the OEM foot pegg you have coming you will be in fine.
Correct and they are Kuryakyn boards, there are no adapters made for the rider peg position. |
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Brian
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« Reply #19 on: May 05, 2013, 06:18:00 PM » |
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I made my own lowering adapter just like the picture here. Moving the peg forward 2 inches would have made me go to a short shifter lever so I just left the peg lowered one inch. That appears to be the stock lever so moving your foot 2 inches forward brings that shifter further up on your foot. At least it did for me.
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judd
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« Reply #20 on: May 05, 2013, 07:45:46 PM » |
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I made my own lowering adapter just like the picture here. Moving the peg forward 2 inches would have made me go to a short shifter lever so I just left the peg lowered one inch. That appears to be the stock lever so moving your foot 2 inches forward brings that shifter further up on your foot. At least it did for me.
Brian, good call, now that I think of it, I in fact shortened my shifter to remedy that. It was so long ago now I had forgotten that little detail. |
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