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Author Topic: Advice needed on tire change  (Read 1893 times)
Daddie O
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« on: May 09, 2013, 06:22:51 PM »

So I got the Bridgestone Excedras and the 90 degree Jake Wilson valve stems delivered.  Honda wants $225 to install the tires, and a local indy says he will do them for $75.  I have not dealt with either of them before.  Such a huge difference in price!  The Honda dealer says it's actually $48 for the front tire and $148 for the rear, plus taxes and tire disposal.  Both places say they will lube the rear splines when they do the job.  What lube should be used?

Should I trust the indy (http://www.cyclepro-usa.com/about.html) to do the job for $75, or ask the Honda dealer to lube my ass too while they charge me the $225?  What should I have done as part of the job?  Are there any seals or o-rings that should be replaced?  I want this Valk to last me, and I am going for some very long rides soon, so I want to take good care and do any preventative maintenance that should be done.

P.S. I do not have the tools, time, or inclination to do the job myself.
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olddog1946
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« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2013, 06:46:50 PM »

Check the list of Ca members and see if there isn't someone close enough to help you. The Honda dealer is quoting you book/flate rate prices at whatever hourly rate they charge there.  I'd bet there is a member out there willing to give you a hand/do it for ya, etc.
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« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2013, 06:52:15 PM »

How do I search for California members?
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olddog1946
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« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2013, 06:56:49 PM »

at the upper section of the page there are headers there Home, Help, search, etc., click on members, I think they are listed by state.
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« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2013, 08:20:15 PM »

And YES I do realize yer on the left coast.  2funny IF IF IF you were close I could do it.  Smiley The service that is AND I have a local chopper shop that does my tire work-R % R at $20.00 per wheel while you wait. I know you have folks in California that work on Valkyries.  Grin I just did my service on the rear end and an oil change and new oil filter. Tools time and inclination.  cooldude RIDE SAFE.
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Daddie O
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« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2013, 10:17:48 PM »

I don't see the option of searching for California members.  Let me ask again, what should be done when getting the tires replaced?  Are there seals or o-rings that should be replaced?  What lube for the rear splines?
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« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2013, 03:02:45 AM »

I just did my rear end service ( Embarrassedthat sounds weird) yesterday.  Wanted to check everything after 3k on the taxi tire.  All good. Spline nice and greasy, bearings good.

There are three o-rings that you should replace.

You should clean the spline and gears and install new grease or moly of your choice.

Find the service manual posted somewhere on the net and read the section about r&r rear tire.

Make sure who ever does it, takes the time to release the 4nuts holding the rear drive to the swing arm.
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Daddie O
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« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2013, 07:05:46 AM »

I just did my rear end service ( Embarrassedthat sounds weird) yesterday.  Wanted to check everything after 3k on the taxi tire.  All good. Spline nice and greasy, bearings good.

There are three o-rings that you should replace.

You should clean the spline and gears and install new grease or moly of your choice.

Find the service manual posted somewhere on the net and read the section about r&r rear tire.

Make sure who ever does it, takes the time to release the 4nuts holding the rear drive to the swing arm.

Thanks!  I ordered new o-rings from a place called Carolina Bike and Trike.  I hope they are good ones.  $13 plus shipping for a 5 pack of 3 rings.
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Farther
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« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2013, 07:30:43 AM »

The CyclePro web site says the guy is Honda certified.  Download a copy of the Valkyrie shop manual on a CD for him as a gift and quiz him on the procedure he will use.  You can use both venders because in about 7-10k miles you will be doing this again. 

The Carolina Bike o-rings are the ones in my Valkyrie right now. 
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Daddie O
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« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2013, 10:53:57 AM »

On another thread I read something about a thrust washer.  Should I be getting that replaced too?
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« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2013, 11:11:02 AM »

On another thread I read something about a thrust washer.  Should I be getting that replaced too?
The service manual says replace it.  Many, including I, just continue to reuse it if it looks good. I'm at 100,000 km with the original thrust washer.
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« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2013, 11:12:59 AM »

On another thread I read something about a thrust washer.  Should I be getting that replaced too?

Can't hurt, I got a new one the first time I changed tires. Turns out mine was fine, and
all the other ones I've ever seen were fine too... but having access to a new one is
what causes you to know what a new one looks like... apparently leaving it out puts
you in the market for a new wheel...

-Mike
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« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2013, 02:44:38 PM »

Many shops charge more if you don't buy the tire from them.  Also the high quote probably means taking the wheel off then changing the tire.  If you brought the tire in for them to change you should get a lower price. 
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Daddie O
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« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2013, 04:09:48 PM »

Many shops charge more if you don't buy the tire from them.  Also the high quote probably means taking the wheel off then changing the tire.  If you brought the tire in for them to change you should get a lower price. 

Yeah, I don't have a motorcycle jack, so they would be removing and reinstalling the wheels.
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PhredValk
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« Reply #14 on: May 11, 2013, 01:09:40 AM »

Without a jack, you're kinda hooped. I take my rims and new tires in to the quad shop and they change them for $30. each.
Get a jack and remove the wheels yourself. Having a jack opens up a ton of self help options.
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