Xtracho
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« on: May 17, 2013, 03:37:35 PM » |
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Replacing the brake pads all around. Rear was a piece of cake, as well as the front pads on the right side. When I got around to the front left, the 12 mm upper bolt that holds the caliper in place would not budge. Too much lock tite from previous work I guess. I just could not get it to move at all. Result is I rounded it off. Any suggestions on how to break it loose now? The pads are still good on that side, but they are those that have that annoying buzzing sound when the brakes are applied. Thus the reason I wanted to replace them.
Thanks!
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« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2013, 04:25:29 PM » |
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Can you get Visegrips on it and apply heat to the bolt boss to soften the loctite.
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« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2013, 04:30:15 PM » |
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Since the head is 12mm you could try hammering a "broke in" 7/16" 6pt.socket over it.I would also try holding a large soldering iron to that bolt head for several minutes before trying to untorque again. BW
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« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2013, 04:41:16 PM » |
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take a die grinder and grind each facet of the screw head slightly until you can put a 6 point 11mm socket on it then heat the threaded boss slightly .
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« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2013, 04:42:13 PM » |
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And sometimes trying to go a bit tighter before looser helps. Whacking the bolt head a few sharp ones may loosen the loctite, but heat is the preferred method.
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« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2013, 04:44:09 PM » |
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Go to Harbor Freight and get a set of these bolt extractors. It will cost a little over $22 and be one of the best tool investments you'll make. You probably won't use them very often, but when you need it....it's a lifesaver. My wife got me a set a few years ago for my birthday, it has saved my day more than once. With these, it will grab a totally rounded bolt head. http://www.harborfreight.com/9-piece-38-drive-metric-bolt-extractor-sockets-67894.html
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« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2013, 05:04:16 PM » |
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Go to Harbor Freight and get a set of these bolt extractors. It will cost a little over $22 and be one of the best tool investments you'll make. You probably won't use them very often, but when you need it....it's a lifesaver. My wife got me a set a few years ago for my birthday, it has saved my day more than once. With these, it will grab a totally rounded bolt head. http://www.harborfreight.com/9-piece-38-drive-metric-bolt-extractor-sockets-67894.html thanks for that info! ive been lookin at buying the ones mac tools sells at work but they are 200 bucks ill deff give these a try!
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« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2013, 05:05:59 PM » |
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And yet another bookmarked thread added to my list for future reference. 
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« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2013, 05:17:41 PM » |
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youre going to need a new bolt anyway. get a cutter and cut a good deep groove for a huge blade screwdriver
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« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2013, 05:58:02 PM » |
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Thanks for the suggestions folks. They are much appreciated. Chris...that bolt is so cursed tight I don't think I could torque it enough with a screwdriver. I'm gonna soak it overnight with PB Blaster and try these suggestions in the morning.
John...nearest Harbor Freight is up in Dothan....good excuse for a short road trip. Sears here in town has basically the same set for about the same price.
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« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2013, 06:03:23 PM » |
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youre going to need a new bolt anyway. get a cutter and cut a good deep groove for a huge blade screwdriver
If you have a screw driver with a square versus round shaft, you can also put a Cresent , box or open end wrench on it to give you more torque.
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« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2013, 06:49:06 PM » |
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AFTER you get it apart and order the new bolt PLEASE reassemble with anti seize and NOT Loctite. Then the next time you need to change out the brake pads-easy peezy.  RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2013, 07:12:20 PM » |
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AFTER you get it apart and order the new bolt PLEASE reassemble with anti seize and NOT Loctite. Then the next time you need to change out the brake pads-easy peezy.  RIDE SAFE. Will do...I never used the stuff on the 'Wing at all. Just torqued the bolts down good and went on about my business. I should say that there was an overly large amount of old Lock Tite on the bolts when I took them off the right side. I guess the PO got a little too happy using it.
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« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2013, 08:33:46 PM » |
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I have a 3/8" hand impact drive. Works like a charm, Reversible and just twist as you hit with a hammer. Think new are about $20 and well worth it IMO.
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« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2013, 08:49:34 PM » |
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I have a 3/8" hand impact drive. Works like a charm, Reversible and just twist as you hit with a hammer. Think new are about $20 and well worth it IMO.
+ a LOT. In my old motocross days when you had to split the casers those hand impacts were almost worth their weight in gold.  RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2013, 10:48:49 AM » |
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Got the bolt out. Did this in the following order: 1) Heated with soldering iron and put the visegrips on. 2) Tried cutting the groove and using the screwdriver/adjustable wrench combo (fortunately I had a metric adjustable wrench lying around) 3) Went to Sears and bought the damaged bolt extractor kit that John mentioned. The heating was OK I just could not get enough of a bite with the visegrips. And I couldn't find my file to cut some flat edges in the bolt for a better bite. I could not get the hacksaw in a good enough position to cut a groove in the bolt head. Finally, went to Sears and they had the bolt extractor set on sale for $18. Bought it and a 3/8" extension. Got home, put the correct sized fitting on the bolt head, and she came right off. Amazing, just as I expected there was a huge amount of lock tite on the bolt threads. Overkill is not even an apt description. Thanks to all of you for your advice.  This will be invaluable to me in the future as well.
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« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2013, 04:38:26 PM » |
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" and she came right off."  don'tcha love a happy ending ?
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« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2013, 06:10:10 PM » |
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Those Sears extractors saved me on a rounded off bolt that holds the rear caliper on place- the recessed one. They're a lifesaver.
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« Reply #18 on: May 18, 2013, 07:16:19 PM » |
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old2soon has it right. Antiseize, not locktite!
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« Reply #19 on: May 18, 2013, 07:40:33 PM » |
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Yup MP...anti-seize on all bolts as of right now. I called the PO and asked him about it. He told me that last brake job was done by a "stealer". Now I'm not as surprised about the over use of the lock tite.
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