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[zoltan57]

well,I posted this similar awhile back like a month.. when I push the starter button sometimes it doesn't start... then I hit it again and it slowly turned over and started. I bought a new battery and it is still doing it. looking for suggestions what might be causing this... wondering if the brushes on the starter motor are going, or the starter button , or maybe a relay... any suggestion to narrow this down will be greatly appreciated.
thanks,
Emrik

[Skinhead]

Check the starter relay under the right side cover for corroded/dirty terminals, and when is the last time you cleaned the starter switch?  You can also increase your starter switch life by adding a relay to take the headlight electrical load off the starter switch.

[Quicksilver]

Do simple first. Clean the pads inside starter push button. They are copper and corrosion puts a film on them. Easy just don,,t lose the small parts when you snap it open.

[Patrick]

Shop Talk. There should be instructions on how to clean the start switch.

[Rio Wil]

If your new battery 'slowly" turned the engine over, makes me wonder if you did a proper over night slow charge on the battery to condition it properly...?

[zoltan57]

thanks for the info.. the battery is new and charged... so its not the battery.. to me its either a corrosion bad contact somewhere, the starter button dirty or need a new one.. or maybe the brushes in the starter?.. any other thoughts are appreciated,
thanks guys,,

emrik

[Rio Wil]

Hate to be obtuse about the battery, but did you do a long slow 2 amp charge on the battery or a quick 2 hour high amp charge, makes a difference in the capacity of the battery.
 
Don't think the start push button will not cause the starter to run slow, it engages a relay to  supply voltage/current to the starter.  So if it is running slow, the voltage/current to the starter is possibly being restricted by bad ground cable/connection from the battery to the frame, or from the battery positive terminal to the start relay, or through resistive contacts in the start relay,  or resistive contact from the start relay to the external starter connection.....don't think I have ever heard of a bad starter motor or worn out brushes.  Has the starter  been removed from the bike lately, perhaps reinstalled and in a bind somehow?

Le t us know what you find....best of luck

[zoltan57]

thanks for the input... the battery that I was told when I bought at the dealer that it was 4 hours of charging,,, I plan on doing the process of elimination by checking and cleaning every connection from the starter to the battery , ground and relays...
emrik

[pancho]

Turn the key on and jump the two terminals on the starter relay,, if it is still slow cranking, you either have a low battery or faulty starter motor. Check the cable terminal on the starter, and also the moter ground on the left side of the motor.

[zoltan57]

how do you jump start it on the starter relay..never did that before.. and approximate location for the motor ground.

thanks

[pancho]

The starter relay is under the right side cover, check the service manual, remove the boot from the terminals, turn the key on, and jump the terminals,,, see if it cranks properly.   If is does crank properly, suspect the relay itself.
The motor ground is on the left side, behind the drivers foot peg mount, under a transmission case bolt,, follow the negative battery to it if you cannot locate it easily. It is in a place where it is prone to corrosion.

[zoltan57]

update: I checked all ground connections from the battery, ground wires are all clean and tight. and starter relay as well... then I got to the starter push button.. it was dirty and cleaned it along with wire brushing the copper contacts... so far the bike is starting on the first push button.. so far so good ...test will be when I ride it for a bit when it gets hot and see if starts on the first push...
thanks for the input..

emrik

[Patrick]

Good. Its nice to hear what happens. Follow-ups are a good thing.