Stock Pipes???

[Ghillie]

I thought my pipes were stock, but now I am not so sure. I saw a cutaway of stock pipes and I don't think they are the same. My pipes go back  to a single pipe with a tube type baffle that just pops in and out with a catch. Problem is the tubes rattle when they are in and the catch rattles when they are out.

Can someone tell me if these are stock or some aftermarket pipes?

[R J]

Have to be some after market type.

Nothing removable in a stock system without a sawz-all......  Well, I take that back.  The end tip is removable, and it should show 3 little pipes we call piggies,

Can't find my picture of a cut away stock system.

[Cholla]

Not sure, but from what you describe and if they look like the pic below, your pipes may have had MarkT's exhaust mod performed on them.   


(photo taken from Mark's website) 

The removable pipe is called the trombone and can be taken out to get a deeper sound.  I have a set of Mark's modded exhaust and I developed a rattle also between the trombone & glasspack.  I shimmed the gap with some smaller metal fender washers (bent semi-circular) so they'd slide in real tight, but with enough lip hanging out to grab onto with a needlenose.   Eventually though, I removed the "trombones" completely as I like the deeper burble. 

I can't be sure Mark performed the work, but he's a great guy to work with and here's his website if you want more info on his stuff:
http://www.horseapple.com/Valkyrie/Valk_Products/M2W_Exhaust__System/m2w_exhaust__system.html

Not affiliated, related to, stand to inherit from horseapple, yadda blah etc... 

[Ghillie]

That is  exactly like what I have. With the pipe in it is more of a stacatto sound with them out you barely notice em, just a deep burble as you said.

[partsiam]

Cholla - did you do any other mods when you intalled the pipes? I've got a set on it's way from Mark - I know he says other mods not necessary - do you have findings that dictated otherwise?

[MarkT]

With use and wear, over time the edges of the perforations inside the glasspack wear down which increases the I.D. of the glasspack allowing the TromBone to be loose enough to rattle.  Note that while it's installed, it's also louder so it's less likely you'll hear that.  But if you do, it's easy to fix.  It's typically the inner end that's making the noise.  Look inside with a flashlight, wiggle the Trombone and note which way it's moving - usually vertically.  Pull it back out and squeeze the moving end in a vise, to increase it's dimension in the direction it's moving - that is, make it slightly oval.  Just a little at a time, and reinsert to test if you've taken up the slack.  I explain this in the owner's manual - which obviously you didn't get when you bought the bike with the pipes already installed.

If the latch handle is rattling - it's been bent.  They are shipped with virtually no slack against the spring.  I use a large jaw Vise Grips style clamp (the kind made as a universal oil filter wrench) to immobilize the inner end of the lever as it's pushed down on the latch rod - then push the other end of the lever down towards the tube, effectively bending it so when the handle end of the lever is in rest position it is touching the tube and the other end is touching the latch rod.  This removes the movement and thus any latch rattle.