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« on: July 09, 2009, 03:17:41 AM »

http://members.iinet.net.au/~kelly/ridingBible.pdf

Excerpt from section on "Beating the Odds...."

...some more information from the NHTSA. There were 33.38 fatalities per each 100 million miles of travel on a motorcycle while there were only 1.28 fatalities per each 100 million miles of passenger car travel. That argues that you are TWENTY-SIX times more likely to get killed riding a motorcycle than you are when riding in a car.

There were 632 injuries for each 100 million miles of motorcycle travel while there were only 122 injuries for each 100 million miles of passenger car travel. Meaning it is FIVE times as likely that you will get injured riding a motorcycle than riding a car.

But on the other side of the statistics is the following: 74,000 motorcycles were involved in an accident in the year 2001 which is only 1.5% of all registered motorcycles while there were 6,705,000 passenger cars involved in an accident in the same year which is an astonishingly large 5%. That means that the odds of your motorcycle being involved in an accident is SUBSTANTIALLY LOWER than your car being in an accident while the odds are overwhelming that if you are involved in an accident on your bike it will be catastrophic in comparison to what would happen if you were in a car.
At the very least you must conclude from the above facts that riding a motorcycle is substantially more dangerous than riding in a car.

Statistics are only true if the population behaves 'normally.' Let me explain...

A substantial number of motorcycle accidents involve a rider who has been drinking.

Those of you who take your bikes to a parking lot and practice braking or slow speed manoeuvres and who ride more frequently and obtain more experience and familiarity with your bikes as a result are acting 'abnormally', and your odds of surviving the experience increases as a result.
If an incredibly high percentage of motorcycle accidents occur within the first six months of ownership and within just a few miles of home then those of you who have years of experience - not just years, but EXPERIENCED years - are 'abnormal' and your odds of being in an accident are not the same as those predicted by normal statistics.

if you DO ALWAYS wear a helmet you are acting 'abnormally' and your odds of survival increases.

The fact is that it is more dangerous to ride a motorcycle than it is to ride in a passenger car. The way to beat the odds is to BEHAVE in ways that decrease YOUR odds of being involved in an accident or being injured or killed if you are in one. In other words, you must behave 'abnormally'. (i.e., defensively, intelligently, soberly, with learned (practiced) skills, with protective gear and as if your life depends on it, because it does.)

Relying on luck (odds) is simply stupid.
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« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2009, 04:32:54 AM »

Thanks Paul for showing us this.  It puts a different light on the subject, one that some haven't given much thought to.  A very realistic approach to how to ride safe.

In all the years that I have ridden, I've only had one instance where I've hit another vehicle and that was at about one mile an hour.  Looking back, that might've been partially due to my overcautious approach to riding (my definition).  Maybe as a result I've not experienced the full on exhileration of riding, i don't know.

At any rate, this is now working against me. My problems as old age encroaches, arthritis and side effects from the few meds I'm taking, has planted this doubt in my mind as to my capabilities for riding.  As a result, I'm riding much less and now have more and more days where it just doesn't feel right to ride.  We've all had that feeling but for me, it's often now.

As your posting shows,  riding should constantly be a learning experience.  If you don't learn something new to keep you safe every time that you ride, you are just piling up bragging rights for longevity, which will get you in trouble eventually.

By the way, one sure sign of geezerhood is rambling along too long, so I'll quit. cooldude

Thanks again for posting this thread.

Wayne
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« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2009, 05:31:10 AM »

And the beauty of it is...even though the rates are expressed in vehicle miles...

For the motorcyclist the more miles you ride, the lower your odds of being injured or killed. (goes back to that "inexperienced rider" premium)

So...if we extrapolate (like the news likes to do with statistics), that means if you own a motorcycle and never ride it (butt jewelry), you are DOOMED DOOMED DOOMED (thrice doomed).

But if you flog the crap out of it...you'll live forever! (my strategy)!

Cheesy
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« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2009, 06:11:00 AM »

And the beauty of it is...even though the rates are expressed in vehicle miles...

For the motorcyclist the more miles you ride, the lower your odds of being injured or killed. (goes back to that "inexperienced rider" premium)

So...if we extrapolate (like the news likes to do with statistics), that means if you own a motorcycle and never ride it (butt jewelry), you are DOOMED DOOMED DOOMED (thrice doomed).

But if you flog the crap out of it...you'll live forever! (my strategy)!

Cheesy

 Grin Grin Grin cooldude
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« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2009, 06:25:44 AM »

That's good stuff to know, Paul! Sure looks like "crap flogging" is the way to go Daniel!
I just KNEW that all these years of abnormality would pay off sooner or later! coolsmiley
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« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2009, 07:47:52 AM »

That's good stuff to know, Paul! Sure looks like "crap flogging" is the way to go Daniel!
I just KNEW that all these years of abnormality would pay off sooner or later! coolsmiley

I with you on the "abnormality" paying off, why else would I still be here. Or most of us for that matter(some more than others). This is a nice place to be, I have so much company I never get lonesome.  crazy2 uglystupid2
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« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2009, 08:07:33 AM »

GREAT STUFF, PAUL!  THANKS!  I SHARED IT WITH ALL MY CYCLING BUDDIES.  SEE YOU AT INZANE, I HOPE!!!
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« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2009, 08:13:04 AM »

I think I'm slipping in my abnormal behaviour .... I need to do a much better job of "flogging the crap" out of it.  coolsmiley
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« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2009, 08:35:32 AM »

abnormal. Now I know it's a good thing.  cooldude
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« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2009, 09:36:16 AM »

I think I'm slipping in my abnormal behaviour .... I need to do a much better job of "flogging the crap" out of it.  coolsmiley

I'm sure Daniel will be offering a "crap flogging" refresher course at a Tech Seminar coming soon to an Inzane near you!
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« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2009, 12:03:34 PM »

All I know is that, in the last 120,000 miles, I've had very few "close calls" whereas some other riders I know seem to have them every time they ride.

Most of these other riders have probably never ridden over 300 miles in a day. 
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