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Has anyone ever been told not to use a PL14610 Purolator Oil Filter when using Synthetic Oil ??? Today I went to Advance Auto Store to Get a PL14610. In talking with the clerk behind the counter I told him I used Synthetic Oil. He stated that for synthetic oils I must refer to the Purolator Synthetic Oil Filters (Part No. PSL30001).  |
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« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2013, 03:56:00 PM » |
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Another Einstein behind the counter ...  I thought that they were all in my neck of the woods!  It seems to me that "filters are designed to properly filter the microscopic particles from engine oil whether it is synthetic or traditional motor oil". "What matters when replacing a filter? How well the filter does its job – get one with a filtration rate that’s the same, or better, than the filter" you have been using. If you wish, there is interesting discussion at: http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2550123&page=1  |
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« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2013, 06:11:40 PM » |
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I have not had an issue with the Valk and I use the K&N filter, but Sears will charge extra for a different filer when using synthetic oil in car/truck engines. I have used the same filter on my bikes and I use synthetic oil in all of them...a filter will/should do the same job regardless of the oil type.
Yes, I am using the same K&N filter with Mobil1 10w-40 motorcycle oil in my Valk...same as my three other bikes. I will try the purolator filter number you asked about on my next Valkyrie oil change...my .03 cents.
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« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2013, 08:10:38 PM » |
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Synthetic oil doesn't require a special filter.
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« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2013, 10:33:45 PM » |
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Dat clerk is trying to sell you a higher priced filter.
Now, open your mouth and exhale as hard as ya can, cause he is just blowing smoke up your ass.
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« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2013, 05:09:25 AM » |
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most auto counter people today are a little smarter than the dirt on your boot.
the filter media is of a synthetic material which means it is not paper based. it is not for syn oil.
There are a few oil and industrial machinery trade industry articles about how the syn media oil filters actually increase the varnish levels in the oil and onto the engine parts. varnish is very, very bad.
I would stay with a Pure One paper filter. I use an oversized one PL14459
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« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2013, 06:26:01 AM » |
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Has anyone ever been told not to use a PL14610 Purolator Oil Filter when using Synthetic Oil ??? Today I went to Advance Auto Store to Get a PL14610. In talking with the clerk behind the counter I told him I used Synthetic Oil. He stated that for synthetic oils I must refer to the Purolator Synthetic Oil Filters (Part No. PSL30001). Ditto what everyone else has said, however, there's also been some debate that the use of the PL14510 or the PL14612 can cause oil pressure and oil pump problems. Perhaps that's what he was referring to. From Purolator's site..... " Because of PureONE's high efficiency, the motorcycle oil pump may not be able to handle the pressure." That said, people have been using them on Valks and Goldwings for years and years and miles and miles with zero problems. What most people don't seem to remember is that the Valk and Goldwing motor is basically a car engine with a suitable oil pump....they're not your typical motorcycle engine. They can handle the PL14610/PL14612 just fine. It's what I use.....that and Mobil 1 V-Twin 20W-50 motorcycle oil.  |
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« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2013, 06:34:20 AM » |
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most auto counter people today are a little smarter than the dirt on your boot.
That's a good one I'm going to have to remember. It applies to whole categories beyond auto counter people.
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« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2013, 06:47:48 AM » |
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I have roughly 70K miles on PL14610 filters + (Royal Purple, Mobil 1, Rotella T).
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« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2013, 02:45:22 PM » |
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I want to thank all of you for replying.  I will continue to use the PL14610 filter with Rotella T Synthetic. The Bob the oil guy forum was interesting. Thanks again. |
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« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2013, 10:15:35 PM » |
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" the lack of bypass valve on this filter makes me hesitant to throw $10 in the trash " ???   no bueno  |
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« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2013, 03:56:25 AM » |
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What most people don't seem to remember is that the Valk and Goldwing motor is basically a car engine with a suitable oil pump....they're not your typical motorcycle engine. [/quote]
I've seen this posted before, what a load of.........
what car engine has a shared transmission?
motorcycles have been using boxer style engines way before cars started using them.
the valk/GW engine main oil pump maxes out at 70 psi approx.
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« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2013, 06:38:52 AM » |
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Like CA said "most auto counter people today are a little smarter than the dirt on your boot"- If you take away their computer they are LOST!!  I run that same filter in both my Valk and VTX and they're still running good! sometimes I will switch to Mobil or Bosch with the specials. |
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« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2013, 01:14:20 PM » |
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Has anyone ever been told not to use a PL14610 Purolator Oil Filter when using Synthetic Oil ??? Today I went to Advance Auto Store to Get a PL14610. In talking with the clerk behind the counter I told him I used Synthetic Oil. He stated that for synthetic oils I must refer to the Purolator Synthetic Oil Filters (Part No. PSL30001). Ditto what everyone else has said, however, there's also been some debate that the use of the PL14510 or the PL14612 can cause oil pressure and oil pump problems. Perhaps that's what he was referring to. From Purolator's site..... " Because of PureONE's high efficiency, the motorcycle oil pump may not be able to handle the pressure." That said, people have been using them on Valks and Goldwings for years and years and miles and miles with zero problems. What most people don't seem to remember is that the Valk and Goldwing motor is basically a car engine with a suitable oil pump....they're not your typical motorcycle engine. They can handle the PL14610/PL14612 just fine. It's what I use.....that and Mobil 1 V-Twin 20W-50 motorcycle oil. Agreed!! Both to the Filter and the Oil!! |
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« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2013, 07:56:47 PM » |
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Think about this for a second. In a motorcycle, the oil has to lubricate the transmission as well as the engine. Many motorcycle engines rev to well over 10,000 RPM. Some even rev above 15,000 and have piston speeds close to those seen in F1 engines. With engines like that I can't imagine a manufacturer using some cheap oil pump. Maybe whoever wrote that line on the website hasn't paid attention to the advances in motorcycles over the last several decades.
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