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« on: August 10, 2013, 05:24:05 PM » |
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This surely has been discussed before. Hav a 2000 IS. Dont want both headlights to flash together. Anyone ever hooked one up so the lights flash side to side, (back and forth?)
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« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2013, 05:32:55 PM » |
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Take this from an ex-cop, in most states having alternating flashing headlights is reserved for police and other emergency vehicles. You'll end up with a lot of problems.
If you have a legitimate need for "Wig-Wags", you can buy a device at most Police Supply stores.
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« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2013, 05:35:05 PM » |
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AZ too. Wig Wags are for cops only.
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« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2013, 05:45:50 PM » |
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Thank you fellas. Never heard the term wigwags. Again, thanks.
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« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2013, 04:08:12 PM » |
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Not only would having both lights flash at different times be illegal, but I've also been told having only one head light flash also is illegal.
The web site I bought mine from had a link to the regs on it, but I couldn't find it. I did save it (if I could find it), but can't post that here, but it might have been the Canadian ones.
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« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2013, 08:13:06 PM » |
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Not only would having both lights flash at different times be illegal, but I've also been told having only one head light flash also is illegal.
The web site I bought mine from had a link to the regs on it, but I couldn't find it. I did save it (if I could find it), but can't post that here, but it might have been the Canadian ones.
To flash or strobe is illegal. It's legal to modulate a headlight which means the light never completely shuts off. Federal DOT says it's legal and all states follow suit with their own ordinances.
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« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2013, 09:29:03 AM » |
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One alternative to the wig-wag lights is the snowmobile rainbow strobe that I have been using for at least 10 years. No electronics to hook up and lots of getting noticed on the high beam. I have ridden through many states and have had no issues with the police at all.
Google RAINBOW STROBE and you'll find more info. Costs less too.
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« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2013, 10:48:20 AM » |
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I used to carry a laminated copy of this in my saddlebag...just in case....there is a smaller printable version available also.
Official U.S. Code of Federal Regulations Governing Motorcycle Headlight Modulators
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Printer Friendly Version: Print this smaller version of the regulation page to keep with you on your motorcycle in case you get stopped by the Police.
Headlight modulators are now legal in Canada; here are the Canadian regulations in English or French. This Federal law supersedes all state laws and makes motorcycle headlight modulators legal in all 50 states. FMVSS 108 (Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards) (49 CFR Part 571.108 S7.9.4) allows motorcycle headlight modulation systems all 50 states provided they comply with the standards set forth in this section.
Title 49 USC 30103 (b1) (US Codes) prohibits any state from forbidding a system that conforms to FMVSS 108 (see copy below). Here is a web page with all of Part 571 and all of the subsections; they've now broken it up by section to make it easier to read. The Legal Information Institute at Cornell University also has a nice website where you can read the various sections of the entire Title 49 USC.
Code of Federal Regulations Title 49, Volume 5, Parts 400 to 999 Revised as of October 1, 2000 From the U.S. Government Printing Office via GPO Access [CITE: 49CFR571.108] [Page 236-307]
TITLE 49 TRANSPORTATION CHAPTER V NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION, DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION PART 571 FEDERAL MOTOR VEHICLE SAFETY STANDARDS Subpart B--Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards Sec. 571.108 Standard No. 108;
Lamps, reflective devices, and associated equipment.
S7.9.4 Motorcycle headlamp modulation system.
S7.9.4.1 A headlamp on a motorcycle may be wired to modulate either the upper beam or the lower beam from its maximum intensity to a lesser intensity, provided that:
(a) The rate of modulation shall be 240 <plus-minus> 40 cycles per minute.
(b) The headlamp shall be operated at maximum power for 50 to 70 percent of each cycle.
(c) The lowest intensity at any test point shall be not less than 17 percent of the maximum intensity measured at the same point.
(d) The modulator switch shall be wired in the power lead of the beam filament being modulated and not in the ground side of the circuit.
(e) Means shall be provided so that both the lower beam and upper beam remain operable in the event of a modulator failure.
(f) The system shall include a sensor mounted with the axis of its sensing element perpendicular to a horizontal plane. Headlamp modulation shall cease whenever the level of light emitted by a tungsten filament light operating at 3000 deg. Kelvin is either less than 270 lux (25 foot-candles) of direct light for upward pointing sensors or less than 60 lux (5.6 foot-candles) of reflected light for downward pointing sensors. The light is measured by a silicon cell type light meter that is located at the sensor and pointing in the same direction as the sensor. A Kodak Gray Card (Kodak R-27) is placed at ground level to simulate the road surface in testing downward pointing sensors.
(g) When tested in accordance with the test profile shown in Figure 9, the voltage drop across the modulator when the lamp is on at all test conditions for 12 volt systems and 6 volt systems shall not be greater than .45 volt. The modulator shall meet all the provisions of the standard after completion of the test profile shown in Figure 9.
(h) Means shall be provided so that both the lower and upper beam function at design voltage when the headlamp control switch is in either the lower or upper beam position when the modulator is off.
S7.9.4.2(a) Each motorcycle headlamp modulator not intended as original equipment, or its container, shall be labeled with the maximum wattage, and the minimum wattage appropriate for its use. Additionally, each such modulator shall comply with S7.9.4.1 (a) through (g) when connected to a headlamp of the maximum rated power and a headlamp of the minimum rated power, and shall provide means so that the modulated beam functions at design voltage when the modulator is off.
(b) Instructions, with a diagram, shall be provided for mounting the light sensor including location on the motorcycle, distance above the road surface, and orientation with respect to the light.
Here is a copy of the relevant section of Title 49, United States Code, Chapter 301 Motor Vehicle Safety. This law prohibits states from forbidding a system that complies with FMVSS 108. The full document can be found at this link.
TITLE 49, UNITED STATES CODE CHAPTER 301 MOTOR VEHICLE SAFETY SUBCHAPTER I GENERAL Sec. 30101. Purpose and policy. Sec. 30102. Definitions. Sec. 30103. Relationship to other laws.
UNIFORMITY OF REGULATIONS The Secretary of Transportation may not prescribe a safety regulation related to a motor vehicle subject to subchapter II of chapter 105 of this title that differs from a motor vehicle safety standard prescribed under this chapter. However, the Secretary may prescribe, for a motor vehicle operated by a carrier subject to subchapter II of chapter 105, a safety regulation that imposes a higher standard of performance after manufacture than that required by an applicable standard in effect at the time of manufacture.
PREEMPTION
When a motor vehicle safety standard is in effect under this chapter, a State or a political subdivision of a State may prescribe or continue in effect a standard applicable to the same aspect of performance of a motor vehicle or motor vehicle equipment only if the standard is identical to the standard prescribed under this chapter. However, the United States Government, a State, or a political subdivision of a State may prescribe a standard for a motor vehicle or motor vehicle equipment obtained for its own use that imposes a higher performance requirement than that required by the otherwise applicable standard under this chapter.
A State may enforce a standard that is identical to a standard prescribed under this chapter.
ANTITRUST LAWS This chapter does not exempt from the antitrust laws conduct that is unlawful under those laws; or prohibit under the antitrust laws conduct that is lawful under those laws.
WARRANTY OBLIGATIONS AND ADDITIONAL LEGAL RIGHTS AND REMEDIES Sections 30117(b), 30118-30121, 30166(f), and 30167(a) and (b) of this title do not establish or affect a warranty obligation under a law of the United States or a State. A remedy under those sections and sections 30161 and 30162 of this title is in addition to other rights and remedies under other laws of the United States or a State.
COMMON LAW LIABILITY Compliance with a motor vehicle safety standard prescribed under this chapter does not exempt a person from liability at common law.
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« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2013, 04:36:33 PM » |
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i got mine from Custom Dynamics and I ride with it on low beams on my I/S all the time. I know of several times it has saved my bacon in the last couple of years. It is truly a plug and play installation. Only one wire to hook to the horn to flash lights with the horn button.
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« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2013, 08:39:55 AM » |
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I've been using a Kisan PathBlazer for 5.5 years. This operates on the high beam during daylight, so it can be switched off. It has an ambient light sensor which I mounted behind my windshield that disables it at night. In conjunction with the driving lights on the light bar I have outstanding visibility. I have read and listened to all sorts of reasons why riders should not use these flashing headlights to draw attention to yourself. IMO, they are all bunk. My experience has been that in all these years absolutely NO vehicle, that has looked at me, has violated my right of way. Typically, drivers that see me, do not look away until I pass by. What more can be said? What more is important? There has only been 3 or 4 instances, years ago, where drivers would pull over and stop when I was behind them, and I would bet those drivers never did that a second time. The PathBlazer is at the top of my list of safety investments I have made.
I put an electronic copy of the Federal Statute that authorizes use of these devices on my smart phone. I hope that is sufficient for LEOs and Judges.
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« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2013, 07:32:20 PM » |
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I added a modulator about 8 years ago and will not ride without one now.
It is amazing how you get noticed, meaning no one pulls out in front of me any longer. They wait much longer than they used to or than they do in my cage to let me go by without pulling out in front of me.
I have had two cars pull over and stop in that time frame. Never a problem for anyone that would make it unsafe.
Like I said I love my modulator and will not ride without it.
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